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Post by caseytins on Aug 31, 2019 19:36:32 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Aug 31, 2019 20:31:51 GMT -5
Yeah, can’t hurt. Gives them an extended look and maybe he’s back next year as a 5/6 option.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 1, 2019 14:43:36 GMT -5
Would not mind giving him a look for that role next spring at all, especially if they can figure out why his hit and HR rates spiked this year.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 1, 2019 16:22:35 GMT -5
It's a great move if they can retain for next spring and see. I hope he doesn't end up a Pirate or whatever in the off-season. I like him as the 5/6 much more than Brian Johnson.
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Post by caseytins on Sept 1, 2019 16:56:08 GMT -5
He could be Porcello replacement. Still only 31. Has a history of logging decent innings..
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 1, 2019 18:00:11 GMT -5
Why would people want Chacin over Porcello? Porcello should be signing either a severely depressed value contract or a pillow deal. Chacin should be getting a minor league deal at most.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 1, 2019 18:16:58 GMT -5
Porcello will get a decent contract (10 plus million) for anyone believing in his career track record.
Khechul sat out half the year and still got 12 million.
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Post by jimmydugan on Sept 1, 2019 18:56:41 GMT -5
Would not mind giving him a look for that role next spring at all, especially if they can figure out why his hit and HR rates spiked this year. It looks like part of the HR problem is simply that he's not keeping the ball on the ground as much: GB%: 37% vs a career avg of 47% Launch Angle 16.5% vs. a career avg of 10.6% since 2015. For reference, MLB avg = 11.1 Obviously more fly balls are leaving the yard this year. And keep in mind it is waaaay easier to go deep in Milwaukee than in Boston. FWIW it looks like he's been using his slider more and more (from 20% in '16 to basically 50% since July of last year). Even though his slider isn't getting as much movement, it's easily his best pitch. I'm assuming the slider is an especially important tool in the AL East because the RHB for every team see an above average amount of that offering. Especially NYY/TOR. He's good at preventing SB and fielding his position. Seems like he has the potential to be a decent candidate for a 5th starter/long man against RH heavy lineups and lineups with lefties that like to pull the ball due to his pitch mix. Obviously Fenway helps that too, especially if the ball doesn't carry as much next year. ZIPS is projecting him for 166 innings of 4.33 ERA, 4.56 FIP, and 1.2 WAR. At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Sox can get that out of a 5/6 type guy.
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Post by jimmydugan on Sept 1, 2019 19:06:30 GMT -5
Would not mind giving him a look for that role next spring at all, especially if they can figure out why his hit and HR rates spiked this year. It looks like part of the HR problem is simply that he's not keeping the ball on the ground as much: GB%: 37% vs a career avg of 47% Launch Angle 16.5% vs. a career avg of 10.6% since 2015. For reference, MLB avg = 11.1 Obviously more fly balls are leaving the yard this year. And keep in mind it is waaaay easier to go deep in Milwaukee than in Boston. FWIW it looks like he's been using his slider more and more (from 20% in '16 to basically 50% since July of last year). Even though his slider isn't getting as much movement, it's easily his best pitch. I'm assuming the slider is an especially important tool in the AL East because the RHB for every team see an above average amount of that offering. Especially NYY/TOR. He's good at preventing SB and fielding his position. Seems like he has the potential to be a decent candidate for a 5th starter/long man against RH heavy lineups and lineups with lefties that like to pull the ball due to his pitch mix. Obviously Fenway helps that too, especially if the ball doesn't carry as much next year. ZIPS is projecting him for 166 innings of 4.33 ERA, 4.56 FIP, and 1.2 WAR. At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Sox can get that out of a 5/6 type guy. He's probably also a good guy to pair with Johnson, right? If the Sox could get 200 decent innings out of the spot starters it would go a long way.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 1, 2019 20:20:16 GMT -5
Chacin was the best starter on a team that almost went to the World Series in 2018. That's more a comment on how weird that team was than anything, and it isn't super promising that the very same organization released him less than a year later, but hey, Wade Davis is good now so why not?
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