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Post by Guidas on Sept 22, 2019 17:30:28 GMT -5
Bradford brings up the White Sox as a fit for JDM, if he opts out. I say there's a 50/50 chance he does opt out. He should get the qualifying offer if he does opt out. Tbh, as much as I like JDM and think he’ll remain an excellent hitter next year, and probably still very good for the next theee, him opting out and signing elsewhere (especially a non-revenue-sharing team), netting the Sox a draft pick, might be the best thing for the team. That gives them $ to extend Mookie, and they’re in retool mode anyway. I admit it would probably hurt a lot short-term, but i still think they can find someone on the relative cheap to replace a substantial portion of that production. They’d have to hope for some rebounds from Beni and Mookie, and continued improvement from Devers (as well as continued excellence from Bogey) as far as next year goes. But it would put them in better position for 2021. They really need Dalbec to emerge and Chavis to improve, but that’s irrespective of JDM’s presence...it’s just a fact of their salary situation. I do think that they’ll find someone to emerge from the utility group (Hernandez, Lin, Chatham, maybe de la Guerra, etc.). And at the least, their depth there portends finding the hot hand. I agree with you that Holt is probably gone. They really can’t even afford the $4-6M AAV at this point (ok, yes monetarily but probably not in terms of the talent-acquisition hit being in the top threshold results in). OTOH, they could potentially suck it up for one more year tax-wise, and then look to move Price and Eovaldi when those two have less onerous total outlays. The emergence of Darwinzon, Houck, and Mata will be key next year. Hopefully Feltman, too. Maybe Thad Ward announces himself as a back-end candidate for the 2021 rotation; being able to pencil in him, and Mata, makes unloading Price/Eovaldi more palatable if (when) the Sox have to eat salary. It’s a pickle, for sure. Best-case, the outstanding group at Lowell (Murphy, Zeferjahn, Song (?), and Ramirez) has a strong 2020 and work themselves up to high-A a la Ward. That gives them an ETA of late 2021 or early 2022, and maybe provides the Sox with some trade capital for a reasonably-priced young 2/3. It’s a pickle, for sure. Alotta hopefully's in there. Will be interesting to see how new GM/President of Baseball Ops handles all this. It's not a rebuild, but it is tricky.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 24, 2019 9:30:34 GMT -5
Either way of your interpretation, the writing is on the wall. Every indication shows the Sox are willing to listen and Mookie cares just as much about getting his value. Neither statement you made here was relevant to what was actually being discussed, which was whether Mookie's comments indicated that he actively wants to leave, but thanks for weighing in. Literally nobody here should disagree that Betts wants to test free agency. He has said as much. Nor should anybody here disagree that the Sox have to at least listen to offers for him given that situation. They'd be nuts not to. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Get creative to make room if you need to. But my god, in a down year, he's a top 10 player in the game (currently 7th in bWAR, 9th in FWAR). The likelihood you're going to get a fair return is so low, I can't see moving him working out well. You move him if you know he's leaving, which is where the discussion above comes from. He has never said he wants to leave. He's gone out of his way to say he likes it in Boston. There will only be a handful of other clubs that can afford him. I'm willing to risk it unless a team blows me away with an offer.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 24, 2019 10:08:27 GMT -5
Either way of your interpretation, the writing is on the wall. Every indication shows the Sox are willing to listen and Mookie cares just as much about getting his value. Neither statement you made here was relevant to what was actually being discussed, which was whether Mookie's comments indicated that he actively wants to leave, but thanks for weighing in. Literally nobody here should disagree that Betts wants to test free agency. He has said as much. Nor should anybody here disagree that the Sox have to at least listen to offers for him given that situation. They'd be nuts not to. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Get creative to make room if you need to. But my god, in a down year, he's a top 10 player in the game (currently 7th in bWAR, 9th in FWAR). The likelihood you're going to get a fair return is so low, I can't see moving him working out well. You move him if you know he's leaving, which is where the discussion above comes from. He has never said he wants to leave. He's gone out of his way to say he likes it in Boston. There will only be a handful of other clubs that can afford him. I'm willing to risk it unless a team blows me away with an offer. I know it rarely happens but trading him and being the winner of the sweepstakes a year later are two separate things. Mookie obviously knows it's a business and I doubt if he would hold trading him against them. Mookie is going to generate $30m or so in excess value. I find it difficult to believe that the Red Sox aren't going to get a decent return for one year of service.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 24, 2019 10:09:59 GMT -5
Either way of your interpretation, the writing is on the wall. Every indication shows the Sox are willing to listen and Mookie cares just as much about getting his value. Neither statement you made here was relevant to what was actually being discussed, which was whether Mookie's comments indicated that he actively wants to leave, but thanks for weighing in. Literally nobody here should disagree that Betts wants to test free agency. He has said as much. Nor should anybody here disagree that the Sox have to at least listen to offers for him given that situation. They'd be nuts not to. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Get creative to make room if you need to. But my god, in a down year, he's a top 10 player in the game (currently 7th in bWAR, 9th in FWAR). The likelihood you're going to get a fair return is so low, I can't see moving him working out well. You move him if you know he's leaving, which is where the discussion above comes from. He has never said he wants to leave. He's gone out of his way to say he likes it in Boston. There will only be a handful of other clubs that can afford him. I'm willing to risk it unless a team blows me away with an offer. I agree that you're not going to get the value you would probably want for him. You'd get something useful, but I guess you have to ask the question. Yes, it's easy to say "Well, give the man what he wants and don't worry about it". And honestly, as a fan, I'm inclined to say that, and of course should Mookie get hurt or become a fraction of what he once was (like McCutchen, who he had been compared to previously), then that's a lot of money and years left on the contract, so giving him his money if it's close to Mike Trout money isn't as easy as it sounds. But that's me just playing devil's advocate because if you feel that way, then you'd never take the chance and sign somebody to a long-term contract. I think that the Red Sox are very concerned that if Betts doesn't re-sign this winter that they don't feel they can take the chance of sitting back, hoping that they have the best offer in November 2020, but finding out they don't and that all they get for him is a fourth round draft pick. You mentioned that Betts had a "down" year. Perhaps, but I think it was more of an average type season for him (perhaps the numbers say I'm wrong about that) that you can expect. I think 2018 is most likely a career year he'll never get back to again. It's hard with those 10, 11, or even 12 or 13 year deals as to what the player will resemble by then. I know we're of the mind that just a handful of clubs can try to pay Mookie in Nov 2020, and that's true but I do have to say I was astonished that the Padres of all teams wound up with Machado. There have been some recent surprise destinations in free agency suggesting that other teams are looking for a star to market their club around, so the market for Betts could surprise, and the more competition, the tougher it is to get him signed. So, while my feeling is that unless you get blown away by a trade offer this winter, you take your chances with him in 2020 and pay the guy his money after the season (or exercise your financial muscle) - so in essence I agree with you - I think the Red Sox might actually see it different based on a real risk that their offer might not be the one he decides to take.
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Post by Smittyw on Sept 24, 2019 10:54:23 GMT -5
Fun quote from JD in that article, clearly still not thrilled with his last experience as a FA. Sounds to me like he's opting out if there's any hint of a market.
Or, conversely, the fact that free agency was such a miserable experience for him the first time around could sway him against opting out if it looks like a borderline case. (Unless you think he's specifically miffed at the Red Sox for being the one team actually willing to open their wallets for him two years ago and can't wait to try his luck with the other 29 that weren't.)
At the end of the day, he's going to be two years older and (whatever Boras may say) even less suited for regular outfield duty than he was the first time he hit the market, and there's still no DH in the NL or any other paradigm shift that would make his situation more tenable than last time. We may have to sweeten the deal a bit more (in terms of dollars, years, or both) to keep him around, but the fit here still just seems too good for either side to walk away from.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 24, 2019 11:23:55 GMT -5
Neither statement you made here was relevant to what was actually being discussed, which was whether Mookie's comments indicated that he actively wants to leave, but thanks for weighing in. Literally nobody here should disagree that Betts wants to test free agency. He has said as much. Nor should anybody here disagree that the Sox have to at least listen to offers for him given that situation. They'd be nuts not to. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Get creative to make room if you need to. But my god, in a down year, he's a top 10 player in the game (currently 7th in bWAR, 9th in FWAR). The likelihood you're going to get a fair return is so low, I can't see moving him working out well. You move him if you know he's leaving, which is where the discussion above comes from. He has never said he wants to leave. He's gone out of his way to say he likes it in Boston. There will only be a handful of other clubs that can afford him. I'm willing to risk it unless a team blows me away with an offer. I know it rarely happens but trading him and being the winner of the sweepstakes a year later are two separate things. Mookie obviously knows it's a business and I doubt if he would hold trading him against them. Mookie is going to generate $30m or so in excess value. I find it difficult to believe that the Red Sox aren't going to get a decent return for one year of service. Very true, but I'm always reminded of Lester's comments after signing with the Cubs that being traded opened his eyes to the idea of playing elsewhere in a way he hadn't been considering it if he'd just hit free agency as a Red Sox. Of course, every situation is different. Other things that need to be considered: - Does the team glean information about what he's thinking from negotiations on an extension? - Does waiting for intel on what the next CBA might look like behoove the team? What if the CBT caps get significantly relaxed? Incentives to reset the tax penalties get loosened? Would such things favor the Sox or not? Tough because these are complete unknowns to us on the outside.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 15:39:06 GMT -5
Either way of your interpretation, the writing is on the wall. Every indication shows the Sox are willing to listen and Mookie cares just as much about getting his value. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Remember when we had this conversation last year about the Sox paying a bunch of relievers and blowing over the third threshold because you're the Boston freaking Red Sox? Ya I remember that, and I almost knew that wasn't going to happen. Yet, everyone hated my opinion for it and agreed with everyone else that they should blow past the third threshold. Based on John Henry's history of mega contracts like this, he taps out at a certain point. He did it with Texeira. He tried to dump Manny. He hasn't really pursued a top 5 paid player beyond that. So the rational you're using isn't the one Henry has ever used. Would love to be wrong, but ya, I don't think I am. The value of fair return is perception, especially based on prospects. I'm sure he'll get 2 top 100 prospects or close to that value. Hindsight is going to determine if they exceed that 7 WAR minimum level bar you're looking for in those prospects careers. Ohh and you're welcome for the input.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 24, 2019 15:51:00 GMT -5
Blowing past the threshold on the bullpen is the same thing as blowing past the threshold for Mookie? The only thing that everyone disagreed with you about is that spending stupid money on the bullpen is stupid and that's pretty easy to see based on all of the complete failures that were signed to stupid money this year.
And yes we know your position about how it wouldn't matter if it worked out or not because you just need to know that at least they're trying while being stupid.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 16:06:15 GMT -5
I can see Henry giving one last offer to Mookie, but it will be at a lesser amount. Call it 8-9 years at 270-290 million or whatever number he's dead set on not going past in his head. By then, I won't blame Mookie for leaving because he's worth more than that. He KNOWS this too. That's why he has rejected 2 other contract offers in the past.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 16:18:17 GMT -5
Blowing past the threshold on the bullpen is the same thing as blowing past the threshold for Mookie? First of all, you don't speak for every one. Chris wanted to sign relievers, so not every one thinks thinks that spending money on relievers is dumb. Secondly, repeat after me. John. Henry. Sets. Limits. On. Everything. He did it for the payroll. He did it with Texeira. He will do it with Mookie. It's up to Mookie on to whether to take less to stay here. All you have to do is look at the history and the behavior of John Henry to figure this out rather quickly.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Sept 24, 2019 16:52:17 GMT -5
In the case of Mookie, I certainly understand the argument of 'just pay the man' and for 'optimize the best return', but I hope we all agree that management needs to determine this off-season whether it will do all it needs to do in order to resign him, as keeping him for a year then letting him leave in free agency seems like the worst outcome.
I find it highly unlikely that the red Sox could trade then sign him as any team who gives up a Ransom to get Mookie would be extremely poorly managed if they let him leave in free agency. This changes if you're taking about the trade deadline as the compensation would be greatly diminished, but I'm hoping that isn't the outcome.
Let's hope the next GM makes a decisive decision with ownerships backing.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 26, 2019 2:10:23 GMT -5
Mookie is stone cold about his stance with his contract. Taking emotions out of it. Don't expect discounts based off of attachment to this franchise, just because he grew up here.
"The 26-year-old wants to tell people not to waste their time. It has been well-established: Whether or not Betts agrees to an extension with the Red Sox will be based on business.
"It’s how I was raised to look at the thing," he said. "As a whole, when it comes to business in general, whether it’s buying a building or contract negotiations or whatever it is, you have to take emotions out of it. That’s what people forget. Fans and media get caught up in emotions and that’s just not how I was raised and that’s just not what my point of view with my agents is. We take emotions out of it and we focus on the business part. Of course, I love it here. This is all I know. But you also have to take that emotional side out of it and get to what is actually real."
It's all about the value (money). He's telling you this ahead of time. Here's your sign.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 26, 2019 7:42:33 GMT -5
Mookie is stone cold about his stance with his contract. Taking emotions out of it. Don't expect discounts based off of attachment to this franchise, just because he grew up here. "The 26-year-old wants to tell people not to waste their time. It has been well-established: Whether or not Betts agrees to an extension with the Red Sox will be based on business. "It’s how I was raised to look at the thing," he said. "As a whole, when it comes to business in general, whether it’s buying a building or contract negotiations or whatever it is, you have to take emotions out of it. That’s what people forget. Fans and media get caught up in emotions and that’s just not how I was raised and that’s just not what my point of view with my agents is. We take emotions out of it and we focus on the business part. Of course, I love it here. This is all I know. But you also have to take that emotional side out of it and get to what is actually real." It's all about the value (money). He's telling you this ahead of time. Here's your sign. Yup, he's been transparent about it all along. The Red Sox, I'm sure, know that if they don't give him a market value offer, he's a goner. If they trade him this offseason, that tells you about their lack of confidence they can sign him and/or their lack of desire to give him a market value contract - and when I say value, I'm talking years, too, as that, and not the annual $/year, could be the biggest sticking point. I have no doubt he'll sign with the Red Sox - if the price is right. We'll know where the Red Sox stand for sure - if they trade him. I think it's pretty obvious he's not extending this offseason regardless of what the offer is.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2019 10:58:10 GMT -5
Betts is kinda showing his age. I get and fully support a player getting what they deserve. Yet can't wrap my head around his comments. Like overall for investments and stuff like that it makes sense. Yet your next contract while a huge business move also involves where you live, who you play for and your family and friends. To want to make that with no emotions seems rather stupid. He's getting more money then he'll ever be able to spend no matter where he plays.
The funny thing is I bet his fiance cares where they live and raise their child together. That's most likely who's opinion we need to know if Betts is a smart man he'll keep her happy lol.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 26, 2019 12:04:27 GMT -5
Betts is kinda showing his age. I get and fully support a player getting what they deserve. Yet can't wrap my head around his comments. Like overall for investments and stuff like that it makes sense. Yet your next contract while a huge business move also involves where you live, who you play for and your family and friends. To want to make that with no emotions seems rather stupid. He's getting more money then he'll ever be able to spend no matter where he plays. The funny thing is I bet his fiance cares where they live and raise their child together. That's most likely who's opinion we need to know if Betts is a smart man he'll keep her happy lol. "No emotions" doesn't mean he won't weigh the things you are talking about in his decisions. It just means no hometown discount for purely nostalgic, emotional reasons. Factors like where he wants to live, who he wants to play for and with will certainly play in. I just think you're assuming without reason that his answer to those questions must be "the Boston Red Sox."
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 26, 2019 12:12:57 GMT -5
Let me give you an example of an emotional decision. I don't believe any of this is anything he hasn't said publicly, but Nick Longhi signed with the Red Sox instead of going to LSU because they were his favorite team. He got a nice bonus, but he's said he wouldn't have signed with anyone else for that. Well, he's in the Reds organization now. Nick is a great guy from my interactions with him and all accounts, and I got to know his dad too, also a great guy. Good people. I'm not saying signing was a good or bad decision by any stretch - he easily could've gone to school and wound up with less money! - but that clearly was an emotional decision, as it was based on an emotional reasoning in part. THAT is what Betts is saying he isn't going to do.
I find Betts' approach here refreshing. The team will turn around and trade him at any time. What on earth does he owe them? He's not saying it's literally the highest bidder, just that he wants to make the best decision based on rational facts. That's why he didn't sign the extension 3 years ago (which is news to me, btw - had we heard that?). He's betting on himself and winning. Good for him.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2019 13:21:42 GMT -5
Betts is kinda showing his age. I get and fully support a player getting what they deserve. Yet can't wrap my head around his comments. Like overall for investments and stuff like that it makes sense. Yet your next contract while a huge business move also involves where you live, who you play for and your family and friends. To want to make that with no emotions seems rather stupid. He's getting more money then he'll ever be able to spend no matter where he plays. The funny thing is I bet his fiance cares where they live and raise their child together. That's most likely who's opinion we need to know if Betts is a smart man he'll keep her happy lol. "No emotions" doesn't mean he won't weigh the things you are talking about in his decisions. It just means no hometown discount for purely nostalgic, emotional reasons. Factors like where he wants to live, who he wants to play for and with will certainly play in. I just think you're assuming without reason that his answer to those questions must be "the Boston Red Sox." No emotions or feelings in business means exactly that Chris. Picking a place based on liking the city, your family, etc is based off emotions and feelings for that place or those people. A 100% business choice without that is all about money and what's best for his career, not his family. Now you could argue he didn't really mean what he said and maybe he meant only no hometown discounts. Yet that isn't what he said. Not at all, he can want whatever he wants. He just sounds like a young adult talking about making decisions without emotions involved when he has a family. He's not picking between two jobs in the same city, your talking about a place he could be at for over ten years.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 26, 2019 14:11:39 GMT -5
Presuming that you mean he has said that he is literally going to sign with the highest bidder, please link to that quote, because I've never seen him saying that.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Sept 26, 2019 14:41:00 GMT -5
"No emotions" doesn't mean he won't weigh the things you are talking about in his decisions. It just means no hometown discount for purely nostalgic, emotional reasons. Factors like where he wants to live, who he wants to play for and with will certainly play in. I just think you're assuming without reason that his answer to those questions must be "the Boston Red Sox." No emotions or feelings in business means exactly that Chris. Picking a place based on liking the city, your family, etc is based off emotions and feelings for that place or those people. A 100% business choice without that is all about money and what's best for his career, not his family. Now you could argue he didn't really mean what he said and maybe he meant only no hometown discounts. Yet that isn't what he said. Not at all, he can want whatever he wants. He just sounds like a young adult talking about making decisions without emotions involved when he has a family. He's not picking between two jobs in the same city, your talking about a place he could be at for over ten years. I don't think either of you are 100% right or wrong, you're just interpreting his statements through your own lenses, which is OK. I'd recommended looking at his statements as a negotiating tactic. His statements seem aimed to lead teams to feel that they all have a chance to sign him, which would raise the competition for his services and thus his payday. I'm sure he already has preferences and his preferences will change as he goes through the process of determining where he wants to play, but he doesn't want a team, or teams, to think they can hold back on their offer because he would prefer to play with them (even if it's true) so he has to simultaneously discourage teams who think they have a leg up while encouraging teams who don't think they have a chance due to non-financial reasons. Or to put in bluntly: - step 1: maximize competition leading to maximum offer - step 2: decide on which offer is preferred WITHOUT considering financials - step 3: give preferred destination a take-it-or-leave-it choice to match the maximum offer In my experience this tactic usually leads to receiving the best offer along with the preferred choice, and if it doesn't, you move on to second-most preferred choice with same offer Although it's frustrating as a fan, it's actually quite smart for him to start this process early as the above process takes time and in free agency Mookie would risk missing out on a preferred destination who uses their funds to sign another player rather than waiting for a player they don know/think will sign with them.
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Post by orion09 on Sept 26, 2019 15:03:19 GMT -5
Betts is kinda showing his age. I get and fully support a player getting what they deserve. Yet can't wrap my head around his comments. Like overall for investments and stuff like that it makes sense. Yet your next contract while a huge business move also involves where you live, who you play for and your family and friends. To want to make that with no emotions seems rather stupid. He's getting more money then he'll ever be able to spend no matter where he plays. The funny thing is I bet his fiance cares where they live and raise their child together. That's most likely who's opinion we need to know if Betts is a smart man he'll keep her happy lol. "No emotions" doesn't mean he won't weigh the things you are talking about in his decisions. It just means no hometown discount for purely nostalgic, emotional reasons. Factors like where he wants to live, who he wants to play for and with will certainly play in. I just think you're assuming without reason that his answer to those questions must be "the Boston Red Sox." I think umass has a point. I get the sense that Mookie is a more emotionally-driven guy. That whole article, he’s talking about how he’s always had strong emotional reactions and how he’s had to learn to focus on a quantitative metric to avoid getting swept away. I’m not saying the off-the-field stuff won’t factor in at all, but he’s literally saying, “I’ve got very strong emotions and I can’t trust them when it comes to business, so I’ve learned to shut them off.” People who are naturally hyper-rational don’t talk like that. I think there’s absolutely an element of overcompensation there and I think that’s why Mookie is going to make his decision almost exclusively based on $$.
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Post by texs31 on Sept 26, 2019 15:12:14 GMT -5
Wait, are we saying we 100% know what someone means when they say something now?
The commitment to turn opinion into fact is impressive.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 26, 2019 15:17:12 GMT -5
"No emotions" doesn't mean he won't weigh the things you are talking about in his decisions. It just means no hometown discount for purely nostalgic, emotional reasons. Factors like where he wants to live, who he wants to play for and with will certainly play in. I just think you're assuming without reason that his answer to those questions must be "the Boston Red Sox." I think umass has a point. I get the sense that Mookie is a more emotionally-driven guy. That whole article, he’s talking about how he’s always had strong emotional reactions and how he’s had to learn to focus on a quantitative metric to avoid getting swept away. I’m not saying the off-the-field stuff won’t factor in at all, but he’s literally saying, “I’ve got very strong emotions and I can’t trust them when it comes to business, so I’ve learned to shut them off.” People who are naturally hyper-rational don’t talk like that. I think there’s absolutely an element of overcompensation there and I think that’s why Mookie is going to make his decision almost exclusively based on $$. I think he wanted to answer a question without really saying anything new and move on with his day.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2019 15:27:37 GMT -5
Presuming that you mean he has said that he is literally going to sign with the highest bidder, please link to that quote, because I've never seen him saying that. I mean exactly what Betts said, I'm litterally doing what he said he was going to do. Take emotions out of it and make it 100% business. So contract and money, market for marketing options, maybe ball park that is best for his career, whatever he and his agent deem relavent to the business that is Betts.
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Post by orion09 on Sept 26, 2019 15:45:35 GMT -5
I think umass has a point. I get the sense that Mookie is a more emotionally-driven guy. That whole article, he’s talking about how he’s always had strong emotional reactions and how he’s had to learn to focus on a quantitative metric to avoid getting swept away. I’m not saying the off-the-field stuff won’t factor in at all, but he’s literally saying, “I’ve got very strong emotions and I can’t trust them when it comes to business, so I’ve learned to shut them off.” People who are naturally hyper-rational don’t talk like that. I think there’s absolutely an element of overcompensation there and I think that’s why Mookie is going to make his decision almost exclusively based on $$. I think he wanted to answer a question without really saying anything new and move on with his day. Very flip, but if you read the article he actually shared a lot that was new. He didn't have to share any of the childhood backstory - he could have said "no comment" and moved on with his day. Wcsoxfan has a great point - he took it a step further than I did. I do think there's an element of gamesmanship, though I think that's mostly instinctive. IMO, in that article, Mookie is just sharing his narrative as he believes it to be true - that he has to shut off his emotions in order to make a decision that's based in self-respect.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 26, 2019 16:00:48 GMT -5
Yeah, probably fair that we were both projecting. I just can't imagine that if he's being this pragmatic he'd ignore factors outside the balance sheet entirely. But he's never said that (just like how he's never said it's literally only about the money), so point well taken.
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