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Post by dmaineah on Dec 7, 2019 7:30:42 GMT -5
You are in charge. Let’s hear how you build your team for 2020 with the mandate that you have to be under the cap by the end of the year no matter if the team is in contention or not.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 7, 2019 9:21:59 GMT -5
Trade JBJ & Duran to the Mets for Tomás Nido & David Peterson
Trade David Price & $21m ($7m per year) to Atlanta for Drew Waters
Sign Kole Calhoun & Avisail Garcia both to 2 year $16m contracts.
Sign Kevin Gausman to a 1 year $9m contract & Ivan Nova to a 1 year $2m contract
Line up;
Betts CF
Benintendi LF
Bogaerts SS
Devers 3B
Martinez DH
Calhoun/Garcia RF
Chavis 2B
Travis 1B
Vazquez C
Bench
Nido C
Lin Utl
Hernandez INF
Calhoun/Garcia OF
SP Sale
SP Eovaldi
SP Rodriguez
SP Nova
SP Gausman
RP Barnes
RP Workman
RP Walden
RP Hembree
RP Braiser
RP Hernandez
RP Taylor
RP Johnson
Peterson & Waters along with others; Dalbec etc... in AAA getting the call as soon as they are needed or ready
I trade Betts & Sale at the deadline to get under the cap for all the Pitching prospects I can get.
As the high bidder I re sign Betts next off season
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Dec 7, 2019 9:56:17 GMT -5
I trade Betts & Sale at the deadline to get under the cap for all the Pitching prospects I can get. As the high bidder I re sign Betts next off season I understand wanting to wait on Sale regaining value before trading him. If this team is built to sell at the deadline why not trade Betts in December for a larger haul? |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 7, 2019 12:05:04 GMT -5
If you make trades at the deadline, instead of before the season, it would be next to impossible to get under the threshold because all of the salary paid before then counts.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Dec 7, 2019 15:33:05 GMT -5
Why would Atlanta ever, EVER, do that Price trade?
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 7, 2019 19:37:04 GMT -5
I trade Betts & Sale at the deadline to get under the cap for all the Pitching prospects I can get. As the high bidder I re sign Betts next off season I understand wanting to wait on Sale regaining value before trading him. If this team is built to sell at the deadline why not trade Betts in December for a larger haul? I believe that a contending team needing a bat at the deadline will bring better value then trading him before the season starts. Why don’t you build a team, give it a try |
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 7, 2019 19:41:35 GMT -5
If you make trades at the deadline, instead of before the season, it would be next to impossible to get under the threshold because all of the salary paid before then counts. But not impossible & I believe this does it. Why don’t you build a team, give it a try |
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 7, 2019 19:46:09 GMT -5
Why would Atlanta ever, EVER, do that Price trade? Because they know they need another quality SP to contend. I believe Price offers them that at $25m per year Why don’t you build a team, give it a try |
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 7, 2019 20:48:59 GMT -5
I'd sign Mookie for 10 yrs, $250mill.
Then I'd trade JBJ and any 2 prospects (of their choice) to ATL for Pache and Ian Anderson.
I'd also make sure the guy that did the surgery on Lee Majors also did the surgery on Sale's shoulder and Pedroia's knee, so we'd have some bionic players, to go along with their $6mill+ salaries.
I think that should do it.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 8, 2019 19:53:02 GMT -5
I'd sign Mookie for 10 yrs, $250mill. Then I'd trade JBJ and any 2 prospects (of their choice) to ATL for Pache and Ian Anderson. I'd also make sure the guy that did the surgery on Lee Majors also did the surgery on Sale's shoulder and Pedroia's knee, so we'd have some bionic players, to go along with their $6mill+ salaries. I think that should do it. Why you got to be like that? Moderator, ridiculous |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 8, 2019 20:01:55 GMT -5
I'd sign Mookie for 10 yrs, $250mill. Then I'd trade JBJ and any 2 prospects (of their choice) to ATL for Pache and Ian Anderson. I'd also make sure the guy that did the surgery on Lee Majors also did the surgery on Sale's shoulder and Pedroia's knee, so we'd have some bionic players, to go along with their $6mill+ salaries. I think that should do it. Why you got to be like that? Moderator, ridiculous This from the guy who once wanted to start Steve Selsky in CF over JBJ. |
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Post by larrycook on Dec 8, 2019 23:24:48 GMT -5
Why would Atlanta ever, EVER, do that Price trade? Because they know they need another quality SP to contend. I believe Price offers them that at $25m per year Why don’t you build a team, give it a try Atlanta needs a third baseman really bad with Donaldson potentially leaving. A mega deal involving us sending them Devers and price for most of their top ten prospects seems like a win win! |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Dec 9, 2019 12:21:52 GMT -5
Why would Atlanta ever, EVER, do that Price trade? Because they know they need another quality SP to contend. I believe Price offers them that at $25m per year Why don’t you build a team, give it a try They just signed Cole Hamels and they have some of the best young SP depth in the league. That's literally one of their smallest needs at this point, AND Price's contract is still terrible. We would have to attach prospects of our own alongside Price to get anything of value back for him at this point, and even then it wouldn't be a prospect of Drew Waters' level. I'm not invested enough to map out a whole offseason out but just because I don't want to do that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to point out an unrealistic suggestion. |
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Post by jbsox on Dec 9, 2019 12:48:43 GMT -5
If you make trades at the deadline, instead of before the season, it would be next to impossible to get under the threshold because all of the salary paid before then counts. But not impossible & I believe this does it. Why don’t you build a team, give it a try I’ve been thinking about this statement. Let’s say we don’t worry about getting under the the tax now. Sign Porcello for like 10 mil, a cheap first baseman that might be able to play other positions (Travis Shaw?), cheap backup C (Swihert another ex Sox lol), maybe consider bringing Holt back cheaply (3 or 4 mil a year). I’d keep Bradley as well as I think he has more value to us than to most other teams and what we could get back in a trade. Now we are probably pushing a 240 mil payroll. Let’s play it out for roughly a 1/2 season. If it looks like we are really contending maybe then look for some upgrades to bump up against the 3rd tax. If we look like pretenders and want to get below the first tax (about 60 mil of the annual salary now needed prorated to roughly 30 mil) I think we could do it. Let’s say 2 out of the 4 Sale, Price, Eovaldi, and Porcello we trade away after they hopefully rebuild some value. For this exercise I choose Price and Porcello 40 mil/2 for a prorated salary of 20 mil. We can then look at trading JDM or Betts ( look to re-sign in the offseason) and which probably gets us right under the 208 mark. If we still need more there are smaller contracts we could package together like one of our relievers and JBJ. |
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 9, 2019 15:13:21 GMT -5
Ah, wait, was that not what we were going for here?
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Post by mobaz on Dec 10, 2019 9:52:18 GMT -5
I think Boegarts and Devers will maintain or grow, which is an excellent start no matter what else happens.
There's a huge opportunity to improve the bench; the bench collectively slashed .218/.264/.345 including Chavis. Much bleaker if you count him as a 10th starter (.204/.245/.306) . Any improvement there will help make up for regression from others or a weakening of the offense from a trade in the outfield. Though they might need that boost if they can't find like replacements at 1b/2b.
I'd love to see a combo of internal development from the AAA+ crew and low-priced high ceiling bench options that make the backups have more of an impact.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 25, 2019 14:06:29 GMT -5
Trade JBJ & Duran to the Mets for Tomás Nido & David Peterson Trade David Price & $21m ($7m per year) to Atlanta for Drew Waters Sign Kole Calhoun & Avisail Garcia both to 2 year $16m contracts. Sign Kevin Gausman to a 1 year $9m contract & Ivan Nova to a 1 year $2m contract Line up; Betts CF Benintendi LF Bogaerts SS Devers 3B Martinez DH Calhoun/Garcia RF Chavis 2B Travis 1B Vazquez C Bench Nido C Lin Utl Hernandez INF Calhoun/Garcia OF SP Sale SP Eovaldi SP Rodriguez SP Nova SP Gausman RP Barnes RP Workman RP Walden RP Hembree RP Braiser RP Hernandez RP Taylor RP Johnson Peterson & Waters along with others; Dalbec etc... in AAA getting the call as soon as they are needed or ready I trade Betts & Sale at the deadline to get under the cap for all the Pitching prospects I can get. As the high bidder I re sign Betts next off season So with Calhoun, Garcia, Gausman & Dickerson off the board and with the moves made by Bloom so far I’ve decided to do this exercise again. Trade Chavis & Duran to the Orioles for Trey Mancini Trade Mookie Betts, David Price & $36m ($12m per year) to the Dodgers for Ross Stripling, Alex Verdugo & Jeter Downs Sign Moreland to 1yr $4m with a team option; Line up; Benintendi LF Bogaerts SS Devers 3B Martinez DH Verdugo RF Mancini 1B JBJ CF Vazquez C Peraza 2B Bench Plawecki C Lin/Hernandez/Arauz (competition for 2 Inf/Utl spots) Moreland 1B/DH SP Sale SP Eovaldi SP Rodriguez SP Stripling SP Perez RP Barnes RP Workman RP Walden RP Hembree RP Braiser RP Hernandez RP Taylor RP Johnson Downs along with others; Dalbec etc... in AA/AAA getting the call as soon as they are needed or ready As the high bidder I re sign Betts next off season to play CF. |
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