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2013 Non-Sox MLB Discussion
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Post by mainesox on Mar 4, 2013 20:05:02 GMT -5
So, the guy who had the story about Melky's suspension a month before anyone else, had this to say today:
No one else has said anything about it (as was the case with the Melky story), so I'm not sure how legitimate it is, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 4, 2013 22:31:29 GMT -5
Man, if that's the case, the Yankees really need a better dealer.
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Post by bluechip on Mar 4, 2013 22:39:49 GMT -5
Could this be a result of the blood tests?
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Post by bluechip on Mar 4, 2013 22:46:14 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 4, 2013 22:57:58 GMT -5
Could this be a result of the blood tests? Great question! If so, if they can correlate the test results with the clinic logs, that would probably be game over. Word is that MLB has been on the case for a while. I guess we should stay tuned. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Mar 4, 2013 22:59:08 GMT -5
F....Now the Yankees will have a great pick in a better draft than we did.
More serious, the Yankees will need to do a better job with their players man they can't be getting caught so easily if this is true. They are passing the needles in that club house.
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Post by bluechip on Mar 4, 2013 23:04:16 GMT -5
If this is true, Edwardo Nunez is going to get lots of playing time. He is the primary backup for Granderson, Cano, and Jeter.
Also, how does A-Rod being on the sixty day DL affect possible suspensions?
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Post by bsout2 on Mar 5, 2013 0:06:24 GMT -5
Cano? If this is true I wonder what the Yankees will do about a long term deal.
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Post by mattpicard on Mar 5, 2013 0:21:01 GMT -5
Damn. That will be quite the bombshell of news if it turns out to be true. I honestly can't see Granderson doing steroids though. While his power production spike easily could point to PED's, he just seems like too good a guy. But who knows, I wanted to believe Braun so badly when that report came out after he won the MVP, and I did initially, but things really don't look good for him now.
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Post by jdb on Mar 5, 2013 17:22:07 GMT -5
Looks like the Tigers are looking for a closer. www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/21817243/tigers-now-want-to-trade-for-a-closer-but-it-wont-be-easyThe Red Sox have an extra closer after trading for Joel Hanrahan. But it's not clear how much the Tigers think of Andrew Bailey. As of Tuesday morning, the Tigers had yet to contact the Red Sox about him. The Tigers have six starting pitchers, so they could make Rick Porcello available. But Porcello has looked very good this spring, so it's unlikely the Tigers would want to deal him for anything but a proven closer. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 5, 2013 18:09:01 GMT -5
 And now, for something lighter, Marc Normandin at sportsonearth.com has a great story about Reddick, his love of wrestling, and his plans for a tag-team consisting of himself, Pedroia and The Rock. He's got it all figured out. Funny video clip at the end of Coco Crisp getting a double shot of cream pie. Saw this when the team won their post-season series, but I didn't know it was Reddick in the costume though the hair should have given it away. The spider-man theme comes from this catch Reddick made. There's a (dead) link to it in the story, but I found it on YouTube - of course: |
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Post by hammerhead on Mar 6, 2013 16:52:46 GMT -5
Texiera out 8 to 10 weeks, with the wrist. Yankee thumpers dropping like flys
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Post by pedroelgrande on Mar 6, 2013 17:01:30 GMT -5
Texiera out 8 to 10 weeks, with the wrist. Yankee thumpers dropping like flys Sad day really they'll get a better pick than us in a better draft. #ProspectLoverProblems |
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Post by mattpicard on Mar 6, 2013 17:02:35 GMT -5
RF Ichiro
SS Jeter (recovering from major injury)
2B Cano
3B Youkilis
DH Hafner/Nunez
1B Dan Johnson/Juan Rivera
LF Matt Diaz/Rivera
CF Gardner
C Stewart/Cervelli
Jesus. What happens when Youk and Hafner go down? Not to mention they're no sure thing to be quality 4-5 hitters at this point in their careers. I know Tex and Granderson won't miss much more than 5-7 weeks of the season but still. April surely will be a good time for the other AL East teams to get a nice leg up on the Yanks.
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Post by bluechip on Mar 6, 2013 17:05:14 GMT -5
Looks like Toronto chose a great year to go for broke.
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Post by bluechip on Mar 6, 2013 17:12:42 GMT -5
Jesus. What happens when Youk and Hafner go down? Not to mention, that the ages of rotation is: 1) 32- Sabathia 2) 38- Kuroda 3) 40- Pettitte 4) 26- Hughes (currently recovering from injury) 5) 26- Nova |
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 6, 2013 17:43:47 GMT -5
My guess is that Youkilis would play first and Nunez third in a non-Teixeira lineup. At least that's what they *should* do. Girardi may keep Youkilis at third because he's unnecessarily rigid like that sometimes.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 6, 2013 18:41:51 GMT -5
Let's not forget that Rivera is 40+. This is something that was discussed after the Punto trade - whether this put the Sox in a somewhat better position going forward despite the lineup that NY was fielding at that time. Well that lineup doesn't currently include ARod, or Teixeira. Swisher is gone, as is Soriano. Jeter is rehabbing and it may take him a while to come up to speed. It's way too early to call the season over for them, not with 162 games to play. But the trendline is unmistakable. Moreover they are really boxed in with Rodriguez' contract, and Cano, as good as he is, can't do all the work by himself. They better keep the duct tape around and say their prayers. Age and injuries are really taking their toll.
The Sox lineup has it's own question marks, certainly. Will the 2012 edition of Middlebrooks re-appear? Will Victorino and/or Drew re-discover the magic? Which version of Ellsbury shows up - and for how long? What does Napoli's hip look like 100 games in? How about the platoon in LF? And that starting pitching last year to this year?
But given the holes they've filled, how they've done it, the options they've built in, and especially the young pitching talent they've acquired and developed, I like the Sox approach, if not their chances of a division title. Now the wildcard(s), that's a different story...
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 6, 2013 19:05:44 GMT -5
Jeter is rehabbing and it may take him a while to come up to speed. Can it even be assumed that he will come up to speed? He'll be 39 this season, which is massively, historically old to be playing shortstop. There's a bit of cognative trick here, in that the longer Jeter defies age, the more we assume he'll just continue to do it, but in fact the opposite is true. We shouldn't assume he'll be fine to play short at 39 just because he beat the odds at 38; the reality is that he's facing even worse odds. And that's before you factor in a major leg injury that he's still rehabbing nearly half a year later. |
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Post by mredsox89 on Mar 6, 2013 19:17:01 GMT -5
Everyone has been waiting for this type of injury run to bite the Yankees. Every year the rationale is "they're an extremely old team who's massively overpaid." I wonder if this really is the breaking point for that organization to really change things. I know they've started on the process where they seem to not just hand a blank check, as well as keep their draft picks and build a system. But they didn't really add much depth from last season's team. Sure, they added Youkilis, but I don't think many teams think he can be an every day player, certainly not a middle of the order hitter.
Saw a tweet earlier that 8 of 10 top HR hitters from the 2012 MFY's were either in different uniforms or injured for the first part of the year. Thats just crazy to think about when they've been thought of as the HR hitting club of the last 15 years.
That organization is in an unbelievably tough spot for the next 3-5 years with so much payroll invested in old/declining players, and without a top flight farm system. I'd say buy themselves out of it, but that's what screwed them over in the first place. It's almost like they have to try to weather the storm with what they have, and get to 2016
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 6, 2013 19:55:48 GMT -5
That organization is in an unbelievably tough spot for the next 3-5 years with so much payroll invested in old/declining players, and without a top flight farm system. I'd say buy themselves out of it, but that's what screwed them over in the first place. It's almost like they have to try to weather the storm with what they have, and get to 2016 Yeah, that strategy that allowed them to dominate the league for a decade was a real mistake. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 6, 2013 21:25:59 GMT -5
RF Ichiro SS Jeter (recovering from major injury) 2B Cano 3B Youkilis DH Hafner/Nunez 1B Dan Johnson/Juan Rivera LF Matt Diaz/Rivera CF Gardner C Stewart/Cervelli A Dan Johnson/Juan Rivera platoon at 1B mind you in 2013 makes me kind of want to laugh. Long year for any fan in NY, as all of their teams suck (Except the Knicks, who do kind of suck). |
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Post by mattpicard on Mar 6, 2013 21:37:27 GMT -5
RF Ichiro SS Jeter (recovering from major injury) 2B Cano 3B Youkilis DH Hafner/Nunez 1B Dan Johnson/Juan Rivera LF Matt Diaz/Rivera CF Gardner C Stewart/Cervelli A Dan Johnson/Juan Rivera platoon at 1B mind you in 2013 makes me kind of want to laugh. Long year for any fan in NY, as all of their teams suck (Except the Knicks, who do kind of suck). Hey now it, isn't that bad! See, Johnson is a lefty batter so he'll be playing against right handed pitchers, right? Well, he's crushed them to a tune of .170 the last 3 years (although I find the .651 OPS impressive in such conditions; EDIT: pretty identical lefty/righty splits in 1320 career AB's, .237/.338/.412/.750 overall, but all the goodness in that came in 2005 and 2007). However, Tex is notoriously bad in April, for his standards at least, so for that month the production may not be as bad a drop off as you'd initially think. EDIT 2: Regarding Rivera in the mix at 1B, Girardi had this to say: “I look at him more as an outfielder,” Cashman said. “I don’t look at him as a first baseman. I know he played first with the Dodgers, but in fairness, we have to evaluate everything. If I have our people tell me it’s a logical, legitimate one to look at, then I’ll be comfortable looking at it. I haven’t heard that yet and I haven’t asked anybody.” |
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Post by mainesox on Mar 7, 2013 1:59:06 GMT -5
Can it even be assumed that he will come up to speed? He'll be 39 this season, which is massively, historically old to be playing shortstop. There's a bit of cognative trick here, in that the longer Jeter defies age, the more we assume he'll just continue to do it, but in fact the opposite is true. We shouldn't assume he'll be fine to play short at 39 just because he beat the odds at 38; the reality is that he's facing even worse odds. And that's before you factor in a major leg injury that he's still rehabbing nearly half a year later. Even beyond his ability to play SS; a lot of his offensive was based on his ability to run a bit (beating out singles, stretching singles to doubles, stealing a few bases yadda-yadda), how much can a slow Jeter really do offensively? |
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 7, 2013 2:26:31 GMT -5
Apparently, no baseball team can be good forever. Who knew?
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