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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 26, 2020 16:55:18 GMT -5
That's disappointing.
If getting Quantrill and Campusano or Arias for taking on a large chunk of Myers was a reality it would have made it more palatable for the Mookie/Price deal as with Verdugo, Downs, Wong, Quantrill, and Campusano they really could have restocked the farm system, at least on the offensive side of things and still go after Betts should they been so inclined (not counting on it).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 26, 2020 17:03:41 GMT -5
Just look at the Betts trade, Bloom doesn't rush anything. This kinda smells like he wants a ton. Like the Padres are offering Quantrill and Arias, yet he wants Quantrill, Campusano, and Arias. So Padres are leaking it's not likely now. That front office has more leaks than the Titanic!
I still think it happens, just Bloom is playing hardball. He basically has another month to pull it off. Yet the sooner the better in my book.
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Post by cdj on Feb 26, 2020 17:08:14 GMT -5
There really is no need for the Padres to do it unless they have something else lined up imo
The whole idea behind dumping Myers and his money is so they can use it elsewhere. If they don’t have somebody lined up to use it on then what’s the point of surrendering some top prospects/young cost-controller big leaguers?
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Feb 26, 2020 17:20:17 GMT -5
There really is no need for the Padres to do it unless they have something else lined up imo The whole idea behind dumping Myers and his money is so they can use it elsewhere. If they don’t have somebody lined up to use it on then what’s the point of surrendering some top prospects/young cost-controller big leaguers? I think they must have some young players they want to sign to contract extensions and wanna do it while they can get a decent deal.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 26, 2020 17:45:11 GMT -5
You do it so you can make future moves, they have been linked to Lindor for example. Imagine waiting till the deadline, lining up a trade, then going back to the Red Sox then to make a trade. We would have so much more leverage than right now when we still have a ton.
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Post by redsox09 on Feb 26, 2020 18:02:22 GMT -5
There really is no need for the Padres to do it unless they have something else lined up imo The whole idea behind dumping Myers and his money is so they can use it elsewhere. If they don’t have somebody lined up to use it on then what’s the point of surrendering some top prospects/young cost-controller big leaguers? I heard somewhere on (MLB Network Radio) that the Padres wanted to try to extend Paddock and maybe Tatis Jr. I don't see how this move is tied in with contention, unless they truly think they can get someone like Lindor. I don't see them seriously pushing for Lindor. The Senzel rumors made sense if Cincinnati is willing to give him up.
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Post by redsox09 on Feb 26, 2020 18:18:42 GMT -5
I don't see how this makes much sense from the Sox point of view unless they flat out win this trade. I don't want even more dead money to spend for nothing if I'm Henry unless I'm getting a haul. Here's how much John Henry is spending on dead money the next three years-
2020 Rusney Castillo David Price Dustin Pedrioa
43 million
2021 Pedrioa Price
30 million
2022 Price
16 million
Adding Myers and 10 million cash a year to all of that? No thanks if I'm Henry, unless I'm getting blown away.
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Post by azblue on Feb 27, 2020 9:51:40 GMT -5
Myers would cost the Red Sox only $3.5 million a year under the CBT formula according to several earlier posts in this theread.
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Post by jimoh on Feb 27, 2020 10:58:11 GMT -5
Myers would cost the Red Sox only $3.5 million a year under the CBT formula according to several earlier posts in this theread. Yeah, worrying about non-CBT money spent on Myers or Castillo is like worrying about whether John Henry spent too much money on his newest car.
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 27, 2020 11:05:05 GMT -5
Not really. Yes, they have money to "waste" as long as it doesn't count against the CBT, but that money is still budgeted, so if Chaim wants to waste money on buying prospects, the question still is whether it is cost effective to buy prospects this way, or to try and buy a whole international class for $30 million (with subsequent penalties) like for Moncada, or like the Yankees with Dominguez. Just because you have a rainy day waste fund doesn't mean buying three Pads prospects for $50 million is the best way to buy prospects.
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Post by kman22 on Feb 27, 2020 12:22:39 GMT -5
Not really. Yes, they have money to "waste" as long as it doesn't count against the CBT, but that money is still budgeted, so if Chaim wants to waste money on buying prospects, the question still is whether it is cost effective to buy prospects this way, or to try and buy a whole international class for $30 million (with subsequent penalties) like for Moncada, or like the Yankees with Dominguez. Just because you have a rainy day waste fund doesn't mean buying three Pads prospects for $50 million is the best way to buy prospects. First off, I'm pretty sure that you can no longer do that for international FAs. Second, if you budget the Myers money into this year, considering you won't spend anywhere near the actual budget (for CBT) purposes, how is buying prospects this way not the best option?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 27, 2020 14:42:04 GMT -5
Not really. Yes, they have money to "waste" as long as it doesn't count against the CBT, but that money is still budgeted, so if Chaim wants to waste money on buying prospects, the question still is whether it is cost effective to buy prospects this way, or to try and buy a whole international class for $30 million (with subsequent penalties) like for Moncada, or like the Yankees with Dominguez. Just because you have a rainy day waste fund doesn't mean buying three Pads prospects for $50 million is the best way to buy prospects. First off, I'm pretty sure that you can no longer do that for international FAs. Second, if you budget the Myers money into this year, considering you won't spend anywhere near the actual budget (for CBT) purposes, how is buying prospects this way not the best option? 1) Yeah, you can't do that with IFAs anymore. 2) The Yankees only spent like 7 or 8 million. They just gave $5.1M of it to Dominguez. Trades like this are now literally the only way to buy prospects. That's the genius of it.
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