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8/20-8/23 Red Sox @ Orioles Series Thread
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 21, 2020 20:00:55 GMT -5
Yeah let’s trade devers
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 20:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 21, 2020 20:03:36 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 20:08:11 GMT -5
I know. But jokes become stars in other uniforms around this joint. No jinxing!
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Post by juanpena on Aug 21, 2020 20:09:12 GMT -5
Hernandez looks like he's lost weight. Hope it's not from COVID and that it's him getting into better shape.
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 20:16:49 GMT -5
In the group of players I usually list as guys to build around I often forget Hernandez, which is an oversight. He may not move into the rotation, but he’ll be nasty someplace for the Sox. Maybe closer if he cuts the walks.
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 20:20:25 GMT -5
Ok... there is a chance... in a few years... I’ll come around on Verdugo. He has a lot of work to do, though.
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Post by juanfatj on Aug 21, 2020 20:22:17 GMT -5
Ok... there is a chance... in a few years... I’ll come around on Verdugo. He has a lot of work to do, though. Never thought I would see the day, glad to have you on board(in a year or two).
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Post by cheers on Aug 21, 2020 20:25:01 GMT -5
Totally off topic, so apologies for my musings. Watching ol' pal Jon Lester get shelled by the White Sox, and looking at his stats. He's been worthy of that big Cubs contract exactly ONE of those years. OK, back to loosely following the boys put the appropriate beating on the Oreos.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 21, 2020 20:44:36 GMT -5
Keep winning boys !!
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 21, 2020 21:14:54 GMT -5
Please don’t blow an 8 run lead.
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 21:21:15 GMT -5
Seems the bullpen doesn’t want to get traded next.
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Post by patford on Aug 21, 2020 21:22:26 GMT -5
Please don’t blow an 8 run lead. Stay focused man. The Sox are playing for a #1 #2 draft pick in this extended Spring Training.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 21, 2020 22:56:15 GMT -5
Great win! The streak is ON!
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Post by Guidas on Aug 21, 2020 23:02:10 GMT -5
Teams will love to see JD getting his stroke back. He's gonna be huge for someone this postseason The Red Sox do not contend in 2021 or 2022 without JD Martinez. Even if they built the pitching back it would be like the 2017 team with no offense in the playoffs. The man is a force. In fact, I want two more like him plus Devers and Xander.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Aug 21, 2020 23:09:27 GMT -5
Teams will love to see JD getting his stroke back. He's gonna be huge for someone this postseason The Red Sox do not contend in 2021 or 2022 without JD Martinez. Even if they built the pitching back it would be like the 2017 team with no offense in the playoffs. The man is a force. In fact, I want two more like him plus Devers and Xander. Yupp, and they probably don't compete with him tbh. Might as well get assets
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Post by manfred on Aug 21, 2020 23:49:41 GMT -5
The Red Sox do not contend in 2021 or 2022 without JD Martinez. Even if they built the pitching back it would be like the 2017 team with no offense in the playoffs. The man is a force. In fact, I want two more like him plus Devers and Xander. Yupp, and they probably don't compete with him tbh. Might as well get assets 2022 is not out of the question. I guess to me it comes down to wanting to keep a guy until his value declines or risking not being able fully to replace him. But I am for trading him (for a good return, obviously).
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 22, 2020 3:52:45 GMT -5
Please don’t blow an 8 run lead. I actually studied this, and, weirdly enough, if a guy gets absolutely shelled and is inexplicably sent out for another inning, he tends to get hit really hard again. I know it's counter-intuitive as it violates the famous "law of averages," but it's true.
No sarcasm: I am beyond unimpressed with Roenicke as a manager.
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Xander, batting 4th, first time up, solo shot, 101.5, 412'.
JDM, batting third, next PA after Xander, 2-run blast, 103.1, 431'.
Devers, batting second, next PA after JDM, 3-run bomb, 108.1, 447'.
And that's all the scoring in the game to that point!
It wouldn't surprise me if this were the first time in MLB history that the first six runs of a game were the result of three guys batting in successive slots hitting three such homers, each at the next possible opportunity. That the team has exactly three elite hitters, and they're the guys, and that none of their teammates homer, and that each homer is harder and goes further than the last -- that's all gravy and frosting.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2020 7:48:31 GMT -5
Christopher Smith @smittyonmlb · 9h Red Sox were hopeful to get this trade completed before the game so they could activate a fresh reliever with Workman, Hembree off roster. But it didn't get done. Roenicke told Bloom he thought he had enough pitching though. “And we barely made it through the game,” Roenicke said
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2020 10:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Aug 22, 2020 10:24:02 GMT -5
Please don’t blow an 8 run lead. I actually studied this, and, weirdly enough, if a guy gets absolutely shelled and is inexplicably sent out for another inning, he tends to get hit really hard again. I know it's counter-intuitive as it violates the famous "law of averages," but it's true.
No sarcasm: I am beyond unimpressed with Roenicke as a manager.
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Xander, batting 4th, first time up, solo shot, 101.5, 412'.
JDM, batting third, next PA after Xander, 2-run blast, 103.1, 431'.
Devers, batting second, next PA after JDM, 3-run bomb, 108.1, 447'.
And that's all the scoring in the game to that point!
It wouldn't surprise me if this were the first time in MLB history that the first six runs of a game were the result of three guys batting in successive slots hitting three such homers, each at the next possible opportunity. That the team has exactly three elite hitters, and they're the guys, and that none of their teammates homer, and that each homer is harder and goes further than the last -- that's all gravy and frosting.
This is the problem with this team and why I say the lineup sucks. They are so top heavy. Get to #5, and I feel like checking other channels. It is also why I would look into trading JDM. If they could get two guys who were productive (though neither, obv, approaching him) it might be better. Now, Benny s—ting the bed may have a good deal to do with not lengthening the lineup, but...
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Post by incandenza on Aug 22, 2020 11:15:46 GMT -5
I actually studied this, and, weirdly enough, if a guy gets absolutely shelled and is inexplicably sent out for another inning, he tends to get hit really hard again. I know it's counter-intuitive as it violates the famous "law of averages," but it's true.
No sarcasm: I am beyond unimpressed with Roenicke as a manager.
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Xander, batting 4th, first time up, solo shot, 101.5, 412'.
JDM, batting third, next PA after Xander, 2-run blast, 103.1, 431'.
Devers, batting second, next PA after JDM, 3-run bomb, 108.1, 447'.
And that's all the scoring in the game to that point!
It wouldn't surprise me if this were the first time in MLB history that the first six runs of a game were the result of three guys batting in successive slots hitting three such homers, each at the next possible opportunity. That the team has exactly three elite hitters, and they're the guys, and that none of their teammates homer, and that each homer is harder and goes further than the last -- that's all gravy and frosting.
This is the problem with this team and why I say the lineup sucks. They are so top heavy. Get to #5, and I feel like checking other channels. It is also why I would look into trading JDM. If they could get two guys who were productive (though neither, obv, approaching him) it might be better. Now, Benny s—ting the bed may have a good deal to do with not lengthening the lineup, but... Your response to their three best hitters hitting home runs is to say this is why the lineup sucks. Really impressed by your commitment to the bit! I do think if you weren't so irrational about Verdugo you'd feel better about the lineup. If you feel good about Devers, Bogaerts, JDM, Verdugo, and Vazquez, and think Moreland is holding down 1B okay, it would be hard to say the lineup sucks.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2020 11:22:23 GMT -5
It's simpler than that. The Red Sox are 12th in runs scored, 30th in runs allowed.
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Post by manfred on Aug 22, 2020 11:26:05 GMT -5
This is the problem with this team and why I say the lineup sucks. They are so top heavy. Get to #5, and I feel like checking other channels. It is also why I would look into trading JDM. If they could get two guys who were productive (though neither, obv, approaching him) it might be better. Now, Benny s—ting the bed may have a good deal to do with not lengthening the lineup, but... Your response to their three best hitters hitting home runs is to say this is why the lineup sucks. Really impressed by your commitment to the bit! I do think if you weren't so irrational about Verdugo you'd feel better about the lineup. If you feel good about Devers, Bogaerts, JDM, Verdugo, and Vazquez, and think Moreland is holding down 1B okay, it would be hard to say the lineup sucks. Well, they are a smidge over average for runs and below league average for OPS+. So if “sucks” is too strong how about “statistically below average”? Maybe you have a different explanation. Fine. But — for example — how one includes CVaz in the *strengths* category when he has an OPS+ of 89, which is higher than his career average — and last season, his massive breakout year, was a robust 103 OPS+ — is beyond me. I like him. I think he is a generally good catcher. But he is not a good hitter. Add: as for Moreland, dude is obviously out of his mind this year. That balances the disappointment of some of the stars. But just as we can fairly say that over a full year Devers and JDM would be much better, so too can we fairly say Moreland would be much worse. He averages 1.2 bWAR a year as a Red Sox. OPS+ of 109. And he is about to be 35. I don’t think he has finally turned into Lou Gehrig.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 22, 2020 11:37:48 GMT -5
Seems the bullpen doesn’t want to get traded next. En masse?
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