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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 8, 2020 20:31:59 GMT -5
Robbie Ray got a 1 year $8 million deal. Seems like a bit much based off his production the last two years. I'm wondering if this is maybe an indication the starter market prices won't be as favorable as maybe we are thinking or just the Jays paying too much? I hope its the latter. 1/8 was exactly what Craig Edwards at FG projected and was less than the 2/9 the median crowdsource had for him. McDaniel had him at 1/5.5, so he did better than the lowest projection.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Nov 9, 2020 21:47:23 GMT -5
Isn’t La Russa too old to get popped for a DUI??
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Nov 9, 2020 21:52:32 GMT -5
Isn’t La Russa too old to get popped for a DUI?? Lol it was his second DUI and it was one day before he got interviewed for the White Sox managerial job. They knew about about it. Wow what a bad look for the White Sox.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 9, 2020 23:37:49 GMT -5
So correct me if I'm wrong here, but the White Sox just spent the last 50 years rebuilding and when they finally manage to get a good core, they jettison a manager of the year postulant and replace him with an ancient tut-ball relic of yore that is also a boozehound who lacks Uber in his Nokia 3310?
Sounds on par for the franchise.
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Post by radiohix on Nov 10, 2020 11:00:11 GMT -5
Really happy for Kyle Lewis being the unanimous AL ROY. If you remember the Mariners picked him just before the Sox drafted Groome and he too suffered a serious injurie that led him to multiple surgeries and missed a lot of development time but at the end he overcame all these challenges. Here's hoping for 2022 ROY going to Jay Groome!
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 10, 2020 20:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Nov 11, 2020 2:18:39 GMT -5
I still don’t understand the La Russa hiring.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 11, 2020 6:54:55 GMT -5
I still don’t understand the La Russa hiring. As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 11, 2020 7:35:13 GMT -5
I still don’t understand the La Russa hiring. As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast. I'm not sure why they sacked Renteria. Especially when the "better" option was LaRussa. I can't wait for him to be the White Sox version of Bobby V. Then again 2021 will probably be slightly more screwed up than 2020 so it's entirely possible that the White Sox win 120 games and the World Series next year.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Nov 11, 2020 7:49:26 GMT -5
As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast. I'm not sure why they sacked Renteria. Especially when the "better" option was LaRussa. I can't wait for him to be the White Sox version of Bobby V. Then again 2021 will probably be slightly more screwed up than 2020 so it's entirely possible that the White Sox win 120 games and the World Series next year. Just looking at the White Sox roster to see if LaRussa might run off any players in the near future, and wow do they have a lot of guys on super the friendly deals. Here's to hoping Bloom starts doing the same with the next wave of young guys.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Nov 11, 2020 8:03:33 GMT -5
I still don’t understand the La Russa hiring. As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast. Yeah that's the one thing that's really curious. That White Sox lineup is very diverse with players of a lot of heritages and cultures mixed into one. You would think a bilingual manager would have been high on the priority list for that team to spread communication around, which is the most important job of the manager. Instead, you have old white guy with a interpreter probably right next to him telling the interpreter what to say to the players. That, and making bad decisions before you're even manager. Which is the other most important thing for a manager. The hiring came from ownership apparently. The GM of that team actually did as good of a job as possible with the rebuild. For some reason, ownership is cutting off their legs when they're pretty much at the finish line trying to compete year in and year out for no reason other than he's buddy/buddy with a old coach.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 11, 2020 8:35:37 GMT -5
As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast. Yeah that's the one thing that's really curious. That White Sox lineup is very diverse with players of a lot of heritages and cultures mixed into one. You would think a bilingual manager would have been high on the priority list for that team to spread communication around, which is the most important job of the manager. Instead, you have old white guy with a interpreter probably right next to him telling the interpreter what to say to the players. That, and making bad decisions before you're even manager. Which is the other most important thing for a manager. The hiring came from ownership apparently. The GM of that team actually did as good of a job as possible with the rebuild. For some reason, ownership is cutting off their legs when they're pretty much at the finish line trying to compete year in and year out for no reason other than he's buddy/buddy with a old coach. It was definitely from Jerry Reinsdorf. Once upon a time, in 1979, Reinsdorf hired a young Tony LaRussa, who eventually lead the White Sox, who hadn't won a pennant or seen the post-season since 1959 (which means once since the Black Sox scandal), to the best record in baseball in 1983 (99-63). The team then started to show their age, their pitchers got hurt (we know what that's like), etc, and the team started to flounder. Reinsdorf had an idiotic idea of letting their color analyst (former Red Sox color analyst and former Red Sox player) Ken "Hawk" Harrelson become the general manager. Obviously Harrelson must have been second guessing LaRussa during the games, so when he was put in charge, he made of all these brilliant moves, thinking Jerry DiPoto but with awful results, that made the White Sox very bad, and then he made the move he really wanted to make - he sacked LaRussa. Reinsdorf wasn't happy about it, but he let Harrelson do his job (poorly), and then watched a few years later as LaRussa became a "managing genius" with an overloaded in talent Oakland A's team, and he also watched him win a couple of championships with the Cards. He stewed for about 35 years over the the LaRussa firing. So this is now his personal, "I've fixed this mistake" move - and it could not have come at a worse time for a team that is one cusp of becoming a great team. The talent might be so great that even a LaRussa can't mess this up, but if the chemistry of the team is as combustible as it sounds, LaRussa could totally destroy this team. Guess we'll find out soon. But wow, what a terrible hire. The three managerial openings were filled by 2 guys coming off of a suspension and the other a DUI. I think the ChiSox got the worst of it!
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Post by mobaz on Nov 11, 2020 10:00:48 GMT -5
As we all know, there are no problems out there that shouldn't be solved by a 75+ year-old white man from the east coast. Yeah that's the one thing that's really curious. That White Sox lineup is very diverse with players of a lot of heritages and cultures mixed into one. You would think a bilingual manager would have been high on the priority list for that team to spread communication around, which is the most important job of the manager. Instead, you have old white guy with a interpreter probably right next to him telling the interpreter what to say to the players. That, and making bad decisions before you're even manager. Which is the other most important thing for a manager. The hiring came from ownership apparently. The GM of that team actually did as good of a job as possible with the rebuild. For some reason, ownership is cutting off their legs when they're pretty much at the finish line trying to compete year in and year out for no reason other than he's buddy/buddy with a old coach. I'm not a Chicago expert, but by reputation they have a diverse fanbase in a more diverse area of the city as well. Reinsdorf should have just hired LaRussa in the same role Dombrowski had him, and they could hang out together talking about how they are a hall of famer [baseball/basketball] person without as much detriment to the on-field product. ADD: I will say, I actually remember LaRussa having a reputation as a strong Spanish communicator, and found a few references about it that confirm it's a priority for him. “Spanish was my first language,” said La Russa, whose mother spoke Spanish and his father both Spanish and Italian. “I had to learn English to go to school. I was raised in a Latin American, Italian American community with a bunch of people who really loved baseball.” sabr.org/bioproj/person/tony-la-russa/"If you seriously aspire to be a manager in the big leagues, there is a baseball 'book' that one must learn. Alongside that book, you must practice Spanish," former Cardinals manager Tony La Russa said during a recent interview with ESPNdeportes.com. "Of 25 players on each roster, sometimes there are between eight and 15 players who speak Spanish. If you can't talk on a personal level with them, you take the risk of losing one thing you could fix if you speak his language." www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/OneNation-MLB120919/major-league-managers-speak-spanish-bring-competitive-edge-game
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Post by greenmonster on Nov 11, 2020 12:01:32 GMT -5
Fun Predictions......
Not counting accepting of qualifying offers, but Who will be the first FA to sign?
I am gonna go with Charlie Morton
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 11, 2020 12:30:12 GMT -5
Fun Predictions...... Not counting accepting of qualifying offers, but Who will be the first FA to sign? I am gonna go with Charlie Morton I'll go with Robbie Ray.
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Post by greenmonster on Nov 11, 2020 12:48:10 GMT -5
Fun Predictions...... Not counting accepting of qualifying offers, but Who will be the first FA to sign? I am gonna go with Charlie Morton I'll go with Robbie Ray. lol...that's cheating...forgot about him
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Post by jimoh on Nov 12, 2020 6:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 12, 2020 11:38:59 GMT -5
I would hope that no one is seriously surprised at this. Baseball has always mimicked society in the small, no? That society includes people who cut corners, put their finger on the scale, look for every edge, and so on. It's one of the charms of baseball, but it's also a mirror for what needs to be retired now that the tools at our disposal have taken it to another level. Has anyone talked to Tony about this?
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Post by p23w on Nov 12, 2020 16:13:58 GMT -5
I would hope that no one is seriously surprised at this. Baseball has always mimicked society in the small, no? That society includes people who cut corners, put their finger on the scale, look for every edge, and so on. It's one of the charms of baseball, but it's also a mirror for what needs to be retired now that the tools at our disposal have taken it to another level. Has anyone talked to Tony about this?Sometimes (or so it would seem) baseball "mimics" society, at other times it is out front. Hiring Tony LaRussa to manage the White Sox just doesn't "feel right" to me. I lean towards a mimic move given your narrative.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 12, 2020 16:46:50 GMT -5
Isn’t La Russa too old to get popped for a DUI?? You're never too old to weave you're way down the highway in search of oncoming traffic. Or to attract the attention of the hwy patrol for that performance.
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Post by manfred on Nov 12, 2020 19:55:26 GMT -5
Robbed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 13, 2020 11:01:36 GMT -5
Wow, Marlins named Kim Ng their GM. Awesome.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 16, 2020 13:32:41 GMT -5
Drew Smyly 1 year $11 million to the Braves.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 16, 2020 18:09:43 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 16, 2020 23:49:35 GMT -5
The comments are funny.
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