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Post by ortiz34 on Jan 11, 2021 13:41:51 GMT -5
No thank you. Keep the draft pick.
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Post by cdj on Jan 11, 2021 16:39:43 GMT -5
No thank you. Keep the draft pick. The problem here is that I’d take him if the contract demand is reasonable, but if the contract demand is reasonable then the Yankees would have wrapped it up So no they should absolutely not do it if they have to pay the typical star free agent premium.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 11, 2021 18:01:15 GMT -5
With all the issues the Sox have, they're not going to use up most of their available funds on one guy and I doubt they want to give up the 40th pick either. By time the Sox are highly competitive Lemahieux will be on the way down.
This is just the agent trying to get the Yankees to up their offer.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jan 11, 2021 18:18:29 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom knows the 40th pick is worth a lot and he also knows it is not worth infinite dollars. You can't be for or against this hypothetical signing without even knowing what the deal is.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 11, 2021 18:22:46 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom knows the 40th pick is worth a lot and he also knows it is not worth infinite dollars. You can't be for or against this hypothetical signing without even knowing what the deal is. It's more along the lines of why would a team that's not "a player away" from being seriously competitive hand out a long-term contract to a 32 year old? They're supposed to be rebuilding and trying to stay under the luxury tax limit while filling in numerous holes. Giving Lemahieu the money he'll require will make it nearly impossible to accomplish all of that. I think he'll do due diligence but I don't think it's much more than that. Just have a presence so that the Yankees will have to pay more. If Lemahieu doesn't return to the Yankees, I think he'd wind up in LA with the Dodgers, but I do think he winds up back in NY.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jan 11, 2021 19:38:46 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom knows the 40th pick is worth a lot and he also knows it is not worth infinite dollars. You can't be for or against this hypothetical signing without even knowing what the deal is. It's more along the lines of why would a team that's not "a player away" from being seriously competitive hand out a long-term contract to a 32 year old? They're supposed to be rebuilding and trying to stay under the luxury tax limit while filling in numerous holes. Giving Lemahieu the money he'll require will make it nearly impossible to accomplish all of that. I think he'll do due diligence but I don't think it's much more than that. Just have a presence so that the Yankees will have to pay more. If Lemahieu doesn't return to the Yankees, I think he'd wind up in LA with the Dodgers, but I do think he winds up back in NY. Who said the Sox are trying to stay under the lux tax? Who said it would take a multi year deal Who said Sox are rebuilding. That said I think it’s fair to say the Sox are trying to build depth in the farm, but I’d also say they will be looking to be competitive and will sign players if the numbers work. Even if that means giving up a draft pick.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 11, 2021 20:27:08 GMT -5
But there is no way it's worth giving up the pick to sign Lemahieu for a one or two year deal, and it's not worth signing Lemahieu to the deal that makes giving up the pick worth it.
Maybe there is a narrow area on the Venn diagram there, but I can't think of one. At least a realistic one.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jan 11, 2021 20:34:31 GMT -5
But there is no way it's worth giving up the pick to sign Lemahieu for a one or two year deal, and it's not worth signing Lemahieu to the deal that makes giving up the pick worth it. Maybe there is a narrow area on the Venn diagram there, but I can't think of one. At least a realistic one. On a 1/2 year deal, at the end of the contract,It is possible lemahieu is attached a qualifying offer. This getting your draft pick. It it also possible that he is tradable for equal value or greater than a 2nd round pick. It is also possible, unlikely but still possible, that the Sox sign more than 1 player with a QO, this dropping the compensation to a 3rd. I guess it all depends how bad the Sox want to compete and how low the salaries/ contracts continue to drop.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 11, 2021 20:47:05 GMT -5
I was looking up Springer's Fenway splits, wondering if interest in him was behind the Benny talk. And I stumbled on this split:
.116 / .224 / .233 (49 PA), Springer versus Blue Jays' pitching in Minutemaid .358 / .453 / .604 (65 PA), Springer in the Rogers Center.
No wonder why the Jays are interested. One would guess that the Mets have the higher bid, but Toronto would obviously be a better fit ... could his inability to make up his mind be holding up the OF situation?
Oh, his Fenway splits are not good, which makes sense. Minutemaid's not been a good park for him, either. He needs a place with low LF fences that he can hit liners over.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 11, 2021 21:01:48 GMT -5
But there is no way it's worth giving up the pick to sign Lemahieu for a one or two year deal, and it's not worth signing Lemahieu to the deal that makes giving up the pick worth it. Maybe there is a narrow area on the Venn diagram there, but I can't think of one. At least a realistic one. On a 1/2 year deal, at the end of the contract,It is possible lemahieu is attached a qualifying offer. This getting your draft pick. It it also possible that he is tradable for equal value or greater than a 2nd round pick. It is also possible, unlikely but still possible, that the Sox sign more than 1 player with a QO, this dropping the compensation to a 3rd. I guess it all depends how bad the Sox want to compete and how low the salaries/ contracts continue to drop. You can't give a player who has already received a QO another QO. That said, who even knows what the rules will be under the next CBA.
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