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Post by greenmonster on Feb 27, 2021 13:10:32 GMT -5
This is the time of year where we generally see stories about players reporting to camp in the best shape of their lives. Typically that is followed by a statement that they have added 20lbs of muscle, etc. etc. I was always very skeptical of that for 3-months, but this year I have noticed many players have reported to camp having lost weight...
Vlad, Jr: -42 lbs
A.Garcia: -36 lbs
J.Familia: -30 lbs
E.Escobar: -20 lbs
C.Vazquez: -15 lbs
E.Suarez: -15 lbs
A.Meadows: -15 lbs
I am not suggesting this is a bad thing, just that it seems to be a different trend. Is something else going on that I am not aware of (PED testing or other)?
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 27, 2021 13:12:41 GMT -5
This is the time of year where we generally see stories about players reporting to camp in the best shape of their lives. Typically that is followed by a statement that they have added 20lbs of muscle, etc. etc. I was always very skeptical of that for 3-months, but this year I have noticed many players have reported to camp having lost weight... Vlad, Jr: -42 lbs A.Garcia: -36 lbs J.Familia: -30 lbs E.Escobar: -20 lbs C.Vazquez: -15 lbs E.Suarez: -15 lbs A.Meadows: -15 lbs I am not suggesting this is a bad thing, just that it seems to be a different trend. Is something else going on that I am not aware of (PED testing or other)? Most of this list didn’t loose muscle. No easy way to put it. They were fat. Nothing to do with PEDs. To do with being in better physical condition. |
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 27, 2021 13:30:43 GMT -5
Agreed...Like I said, I don't think its a bad thing, better physical condition is good. Nor do I think weight gain in the past was all muscle either. It just seems like more emphasis on weight loss this year
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Post by manfred on Feb 27, 2021 13:35:41 GMT -5
I have to guess part of it is Covid related.... last year’s preseason was a mess, and guys might have let conditioning slide. This year, they had gone through that awful year and might have hit the gym harder to avoid making the same mistake again.
How many of us didn’t spend a decent chunk of shut-in eating banana bread and drinking beer? 😬
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 27, 2021 14:03:55 GMT -5
Anyone remember Rich Garces and his weight loss? Didn't work out so great, ended his career.
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Post by blizzards39 on Feb 27, 2021 15:54:23 GMT -5
Anyone remember Rich Garces and his weight loss? Didn't work out so great, ended his career. El GUAPO |
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 27, 2021 16:34:03 GMT -5
Pretty Enormous Dinner
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 27, 2021 16:57:44 GMT -5
I have to guess part of it is Covid related.... last year’s preseason was a mess, and guys might have let conditioning slide. This year, they had gone through that awful year and might have hit the gym harder to avoid making the same mistake again. How many of us didn’t spend a decent chunk of shut-in eating banana bread and drinking beer? 😬 This makes sense. Fewer chances for night life, etc and nothing to do but hit the home gym. I know on a personal level, many of my friends/co-workers have either gone noticeably up in weight or noticeably down over the past year. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2021 13:09:21 GMT -5
Vlad was massive, yet okay at 1B, he wants to play 3B again so he needed to lose weight. If you want to look for PED guys I'd look for the guys that gain a ton of muscle in a short period of time, not guys that just lose weight.
Just brings up bad memories of Sandoval going home and gaining 40-50 pounds in a few weeks. He sure does love home cooking.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 1, 2021 13:48:30 GMT -5
Dalbec looks much more trim, especially in his upper body. Good to see.
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Post by manfred on Mar 1, 2021 13:52:26 GMT -5
Dalbec looks much more trim, especially in his upper body. Good to see. I was just noticing how good he looks. He’s so big in his frame, he’d probably have massive power even without getting too muscley. No need to get stiff with muscle. |
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Post by kingstephanos on Mar 1, 2021 15:45:55 GMT -5
Vlad was massive, yet okay at 1B, he wants to play 3B again so he needed to lose weight. If you want to look for PED guys I'd look for the guys that gain a ton of muscle in a short period of time, not guys that just lose weight. Just brings up bad memories of Sandoval going home and gaining 40-50 pounds in a few weeks. He sure does love home cooking. I know what you mean Umass, but "PEDs" encompass loads of different compounds. Some pack on lean muscle mass (testosterone etc.), some help recovery from injury while increasing bone joint health (HGH etc.), while others do none of the above. The reality is that (the general public) most guys on PEDs have 'dad bods' and don't look athletic at all. |
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Post by greenmonster on Mar 1, 2021 15:59:35 GMT -5
Vlad was massive, yet okay at 1B, he wants to play 3B again so he needed to lose weight. If you want to look for PED guys I'd look for the guys that gain a ton of muscle in a short period of time, not guys that just lose weight. Just brings up bad memories of Sandoval going home and gaining 40-50 pounds in a few weeks. He sure does love home cooking. I was not trying to imply that taking PED's will make you skinny. My mention of PED's was looking for an underlying reason for why so many players are dropping weight. I was asking if there was increased testing that may have led players to stop using and the lack of PED's has led to them dropping the weight. I regret mentioning PED's as that has appeared to take away from what I was trying to raise as a topic.....Why are so many players dropping weight when in the past they were all gaining 20lbs of muscle in 3-months? |
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Post by ericmvan on Mar 2, 2021 6:01:46 GMT -5
Dalbec looks much more trim, especially in his upper body. Good to see. Backup 3B is back on the table, then? I'd think so. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 2, 2021 11:13:18 GMT -5
Dalbec looks much more trim, especially in his upper body. Good to see. Backup 3B is back on the table, then? I'd think so. Potentially, but there's work to do. Would point to his misplay yesterday, although enormous "second game of the spring" caveat obviously applies. |
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Post by wcsoxfan on Mar 2, 2021 12:31:31 GMT -5
This is the time of year where we generally see stories about players reporting to camp in the best shape of their lives. Typically that is followed by a statement that they have added 20lbs of muscle, etc. etc. I was always very skeptical of that for 3-months, but this year I have noticed many players have reported to camp having lost weight... Vlad, Jr: -42 lbs A.Garcia: -36 lbs J.Familia: -30 lbs E.Escobar: -20 lbs C.Vazquez: -15 lbs E.Suarez: -15 lbs A.Meadows: -15 lbs I am not suggesting this is a bad thing, just that it seems to be a different trend. Is something else going on that I am not aware of (PED testing or other)? I wonder - how many of these guys gained the weight before last year and are back down this year? Last year was tough for many to get into a routine, while this year they've had more time to figure out what they have to do. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 2, 2021 13:00:51 GMT -5
I was not trying to imply that taking PED's will make you skinny. My mention of PED's was looking for an underlying reason for why so many players are dropping weight. I was asking if there was increased testing that may have led players to stop using and the lack of PED's has led to them dropping the weight. I regret mentioning PED's as that has appeared to take away from what I was trying to raise as a topic.....Why are so many players dropping weight when in the past they were all gaining 20lbs of muscle in 3-months? Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply anything either just making *cough* light of the situation. Did Sandoval really gain that much weight in a couple weeks?!? How is that even possible? I was joking around given the crazy weight he gained while with us, yet he gained 21 pounds in 21 days before we signed him and then things got much worse. www.masslive.com/redsox/2016/04/pablo_sandovals_weight_problem.htmlSo it wouldn't surprise me that a bunch of guys gained weight while locked inside during Covid and are now losing it. They closed the gyms, the team facilities weren't open to the players, then they had a crazy short time to get ready. |
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