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Post by orion09 on Apr 14, 2021 19:11:41 GMT -5
Didn't see a thread for him. Here's a scouting report based on the (brief) look in the Twins game:
Fastball: 93-95, top 95 Around the zone. Below-average command in this look. Didn't jump past guys when up in the zone. Feels to me like a pitch-to-contact pitch. That would be consistent with its low spin rate (2034 avg).
Breaking ball: 80-83, top 85 Tight, deep break. Able to throw for a strike or bury out of the zone. Lots of bad-looking swings, especially against LHB. Looks like a major-league plus pitch. 2770 avg spin rate.
Definitely seems like a candidate for pitching backwards off the breaking ball, while mixing in the fastball. Vazquez seemed to pick up on this after the first batter and called for mostly breaking balls. The final split was 62.5% breaking balls and 37.5% fastballs.
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Post by orion09 on Apr 14, 2021 19:34:39 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Apr 14, 2021 19:42:51 GMT -5
Some Statcast numbers. Statcast separated his breaking ball into two pitches, which I think was a mistake, so I combined them in the numbers above.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Apr 14, 2021 19:53:19 GMT -5
Spin rate on his breaking ball, called a slider, ranks him 28th out of 268 pitchers this year. He has a very low spin on his fastball, not much carry to it it seems, so something to watch when he attacks up with that pitch. Here is why they are calling the breaking balls 2 different pitches, for now.
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Post by brendan98 on Apr 15, 2021 9:22:45 GMT -5
Can we please get keep Bazardo and get rid of Brice or Taylor?
I think the Sox probably want to keep Taylor with only one other lefty in the pen, but Bazardo does seem like a guy who can be very effective against LHH and his minor league track record backs that up.
Edit: Just saw that Bazardo's already been optioned, personally I don't think Brice brings anything to the club, but I'm hoping I am wrong about that.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2021 9:34:20 GMT -5
Can we please get keep Bazardo and get rid of Brice or Taylor? I think the Sox probably want to keep Taylor with only one other lefty in the pen, but Bazardo does seem like a guy who can be very effective against LHH and his minor league track record backs that up. Edit: Just saw that Bazardo's already been optioned, personally I don't think Brice brings anything to the club, but I'm hoping I am wrong about that. I don’t want to keep any prospects up who won’t throw regularly. I’d rather have them getting work in the minors. That back end slot is better used by a Brice — who will hopefully rarely pitch and only in blowouts.
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Post by brendan98 on Apr 15, 2021 10:05:51 GMT -5
Can we please get keep Bazardo and get rid of Brice or Taylor? I think the Sox probably want to keep Taylor with only one other lefty in the pen, but Bazardo does seem like a guy who can be very effective against LHH and his minor league track record backs that up. Edit: Just saw that Bazardo's already been optioned, personally I don't think Brice brings anything to the club, but I'm hoping I am wrong about that. I don’t want to keep any prospects up who won’t throw regularly. I’d rather have them getting work in the minors. That back end slot is better used by a Brice — who will hopefully rarely pitch and only in blowouts. So you think the Sox have enough quality arms in the pen that Bazardo would not pitch in anything but mopup? If he is effective against LHH, and Taylor does not improve I can see an important role for him.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2021 10:21:30 GMT -5
I don’t want to keep any prospects up who won’t throw regularly. I’d rather have them getting work in the minors. That back end slot is better used by a Brice — who will hopefully rarely pitch and only in blowouts. So you think the Sox have enough quality arms in the pen that Bazardo would not pitch in anything but mopup? If he is effective against LHH, and Taylor does not improve I can see an important role for him. Probably at the moment. Barnes, Ottavino, Andriese, Whitlock, Sawamura, Darwinzon... all guys I’d call on regularly. Bazardo can be back if they need him. But, again, if he isn’t working regularly, I don’t see a good reason to have him sitting around.
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Post by dyoungteach on Apr 15, 2021 11:52:19 GMT -5
Can we please get keep Bazardo and get rid of Brice or Taylor? I think the Sox probably want to keep Taylor with only one other lefty in the pen, but Bazardo does seem like a guy who can be very effective against LHH and his minor league track record backs that up. Edit: Just saw that Bazardo's already been optioned, personally I don't think Brice brings anything to the club, but I'm hoping I am wrong about that. I don’t want to keep any prospects up who won’t throw regularly. I’d rather have them getting work in the minors. That back end slot is better used by a Brice — who will hopefully rarely pitch and only in blowouts. And yet if he’s ready. He’s ready. I doubt any team keeps a slot for just blowout pitchers. The move was made for depth and to keep depth. ( a staple of bloom it seems). But I think it’s valid to question if bazardo should be a pitcher in our bullpen or if he’s one of the best 10-11 pitchers in our system.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 15, 2021 12:06:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't give up on Brice or Taylor in April. a lot of pitchers are just getting their feet wet in colder weather from Fla. Brice has looked awful so far, but it is too early to give up on him.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 15, 2021 14:21:28 GMT -5
Talked about the breaking ball(s) with Ian last night on the pod. Our (OK, his) theory is that it sort of is and sort of isn't two different pitches. the spin rates are very similar, but he's shaping them differently, which is why they register as different pitches and kind of sort of are.
So the answer to the question of "is it one breaking ball or two different breaking balls?" is "Yes."
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Post by RedSoxStats on Apr 15, 2021 14:24:33 GMT -5
Bazardo is a fringe outlier in that he gets good spin on his breaking ball but low spin on his fastball
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