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5/25/-5/26 Red Sox vs. Braves Series Thread
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Post by ramireja on May 24, 2021 22:30:05 GMT -5
5/25 Red Sox (RHP Garrett Richards, 4-2, 3.72, 48.1 IP, 43K:22BB) vs. Braves (RHP Charlie Morton, 2-2, 4.60, 45.0 IP, 52K:16BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/26 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 5-0, 3.59, 47.2 IP, 50K:24BB) vs. Braves (LHP Drew Smyly, 2-2, 5.11, 37.0 IP, 33K:13BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/ESPN+/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2021: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 25, 2021 9:58:08 GMT -5
Pablo Sandoval brings his .908 OPS to the DH spot.
None of those 4 pitchers hit well, so the DH works for both teams
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 11:10:23 GMT -5
I hope he gets hit in the wrist
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Post by sibbysisti on May 25, 2021 13:35:28 GMT -5
I hope he gets hit in the wrist For me, it's a healthy 0 fer. |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 25, 2021 14:41:28 GMT -5
I can buy a case that Franchy should still be on the roster, but not if Renfroe is still starting vs RHP.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 25, 2021 14:56:36 GMT -5
I can buy a case that Franchy should still be on the roster, but not if Renfroe is still starting vs RHP. The only reason I can think of is if Cora uses Cordero to PH against RHP late in games. IMO Cora must like Renfroe’s defense so much that he is willing to get lower production from Renfroe against RHP. |
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 15:06:46 GMT -5
I can buy a case that Franchy should still be on the roster, but not if Renfroe is still starting vs RHP. Saw the lineup and thought Santana should be playing 1st and Dalbec sits Dalbec is just awful against righties thus far, I’d prefer Franchy to him against RHP. Not even close either tbh |
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Post by manfred on May 25, 2021 15:12:39 GMT -5
I can buy a case that Franchy should still be on the roster, but not if Renfroe is still starting vs RHP. Saw the lineup and thought Santana should be playing 1st and Dalbec sits Dalbec is just awful against righties thus far, I’d prefer Franchy to him against RHP. Not even close either tbh There is no combination that has me prefer Franchy to anyone on the active roster. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 25, 2021 15:14:17 GMT -5
I can buy a case that Franchy should still be on the roster, but not if Renfroe is still starting vs RHP. Saw the lineup and thought Santana should be playing 1st and Dalbec sits Dalbec is just awful against righties thus far, I’d prefer Franchy to him against RHP. Not even close either tbh I get your concern but if they give up on Dalbec vs righties then they might as well get rid of him as he would not figure in their future plans because if he's a short end platoon end corner infielder he's not really that valuable to them down the road as you figure you have Devers at 3b and if he were to wind up at DH (I'm not advocating for that) then X would probably wind up at 3b with a rangy guy at SS. And you know it's a matter of time before Casas is the every day 1b. Dalbec needs to hit righties to have a real future with the Sox. The tempting thing to do is to sit him down against righties, but he'll never improve against them if he doesn't get more exposure to them, as painful as that can be. LIke I said, I totally understand where you're coming from. |
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Post by Guidas on May 25, 2021 16:24:12 GMT -5
Line-up, with the OBP machine back in the #1 spot:
1. Kiké Hernández 2B
2. Alex Verdugo LF
3. J.D. Martinez DH
4. Xander Bogaerts SS
5. Rafael Devers 3B
6. Christian Vázquez C
7. Danny Santana CF
8. Hunter Renfroe RF
9. Bobby Dalbec 1B
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Post by nomar on May 25, 2021 16:34:40 GMT -5
Line-up, with the OBP machine back in the #1 spot: 1. Kiké Hernández 2B 2. Alex Verdugo LF 3. J.D. Martinez DH 4. Xander Bogaerts SS 5. Rafael Devers 3B 6. Christian Vázquez C 7. Danny Santana CF 8. Hunter Renfroe RF 9. Bobby Dalbec 1B Tbh this is probably still the best lineup we’ve had all year |
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Post by shagworthy on May 25, 2021 16:38:22 GMT -5
Line-up, with the OBP machine back in the #1 spot: 1. Kiké Hernández 2B 2. Alex Verdugo LF 3. J.D. Martinez DH 4. Xander Bogaerts SS 5. Rafael Devers 3B 6. Christian Vázquez C 7. Danny Santana CF 8. Hunter Renfroe RF 9. Bobby Dalbec 1B Tbh this is probably still the best lineup we’ve had all year I think I'd prefer someone else in the leadoff, but we're splitting hairs here. The offense by and large has not been an issue. |
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Post by Guidas on May 25, 2021 16:51:25 GMT -5
Tbh this is probably still the best lineup we’ve had all year I think I'd prefer someone else in the leadoff, but we're splitting hairs here. The offense by and large has not been an issue. With the schedule ahead they need to seize every advantage. Leading off a #7-9 hitter does not accomplish that task. Hopefully someone (Santana, Arroyo) can force the conversation with Cora soon. |
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 17:46:17 GMT -5
Saw the lineup and thought Santana should be playing 1st and Dalbec sits Dalbec is just awful against righties thus far, I’d prefer Franchy to him against RHP. Not even close either tbh There is no combination that has me prefer Franchy to anyone on the active roster. .181/.227/.289 with meh defense at his position vs .141/.215/.247 with bad defense at his position (so far...I expect improvement) Which do you prefer? That’s the reason I say it. I’m not saying don’t bat Bobby against righties entirely but if they’re going to keep Franchy up I’d like him getting at-bats against righties so he hopefully figures it out. It’s not like he’s that much older than Dalbec, without looking they’re probably within a year apart So that’s what I don’t get. People look at Bobby and cut him some slack for being young but he’s only 9 months younger than Franchy (I looked lol). So is he old or is Franchy also young? Strange to me that one player gets slack and the other doesnt. To be fair It’s probably because he mutilates LHP but still....the point remains in regards to their age, etc |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 25, 2021 18:15:49 GMT -5
If I'm indifferent over which of two players helps me win today, I'm going to give the start to the guy whose rights I control through 2026 ahead of the guy who has already earned his first arbitration payday.
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Post by Guidas on May 25, 2021 18:31:17 GMT -5
Here we go with bases loaded again - 85% chance of scoring at least 1 run with no outs and bases juiced.
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 18:33:53 GMT -5
Big win for Raffy not swinging at two pitches headed for his foot
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Post by Guidas on May 25, 2021 18:35:11 GMT -5
Brutal.
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Post by manfred on May 25, 2021 18:35:49 GMT -5
There is no combination that has me prefer Franchy to anyone on the active roster. .181/.227/.289 with meh defense at his position vs .141/.215/.247 with bad defense at his position (so far...I expect improvement) Which do you prefer? That’s the reason I say it. I’m not saying don’t bat Bobby against righties entirely but if they’re going to keep Franchy up I’d like him getting at-bats against righties so he hopefully figures it out. It’s not like he’s that much older than Dalbec, without looking they’re probably within a year apart So that’s what I don’t get. People look at Bobby and cut him some slack for being young but he’s only 9 months younger than Franchy (I looked lol). So is he old or is Franchy also young? Strange to me that one player gets slack and the other doesnt. To be fair It’s probably because he mutilates LHP but still....the point remains in regards to their age, etc I cut Dalbec slack because to my eye, he has not looked as hopeless as often as Franchy. I also think his D has been fine. I am very much the engineer of the Franchy-will-never-be-good train, but even so, he needs a chance to play regularly in AAA. Dalbec might work his way there, but I say let him ride a bit longer. It isn’t an age thing for me. It is an opportunities thing. Franchy’s had a number, Chavis a few, and Dalbec is in his first. |
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 18:37:56 GMT -5
.181/.227/.289 with meh defense at his position vs .141/.215/.247 with bad defense at his position (so far...I expect improvement) Which do you prefer? That’s the reason I say it. I’m not saying don’t bat Bobby against righties entirely but if they’re going to keep Franchy up I’d like him getting at-bats against righties so he hopefully figures it out. It’s not like he’s that much older than Dalbec, without looking they’re probably within a year apart So that’s what I don’t get. People look at Bobby and cut him some slack for being young but he’s only 9 months younger than Franchy (I looked lol). So is he old or is Franchy also young? Strange to me that one player gets slack and the other doesnt. To be fair It’s probably because he mutilates LHP but still....the point remains in regards to their age, etc I cut Dalbec slack because to my eye, he has not looked as hopeless as often as Franchy. I also think his D has been fine. I am very much the engineer of the Franchy-will-never-be-good train, but even so, he needs a chance to play regularly in AAA. Dalbec might work his way there, but I say let him ride a bit longer. It isn’t an age thing for me. It is an opportunities thing. Franchy’s had a number, Chavis a few, and Dalbec is in his first. Idk, you see Dalbec’s whiff rate in the zone? He’s pretty helpless against righties I do agree that Franchy should be getting regular AB’s in Worcester though. But while he’s up I’d at least like to see him play against righties because otherwise I don’t see the point in keeping him here Disagree on Franchy having a number of opportunities relative to Dalbec, he’s had 379 official at-bats. Bobby is in the 200’s. Not really that significant of a difference. Franchy has just been hurt |
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Post by manfred on May 25, 2021 18:39:15 GMT -5
I cut Dalbec slack because to my eye, he has not looked as hopeless as often as Franchy. I also think his D has been fine. I am very much the engineer of the Franchy-will-never-be-good train, but even so, he needs a chance to play regularly in AAA. Dalbec might work his way there, but I say let him ride a bit longer. It isn’t an age thing for me. It is an opportunities thing. Franchy’s had a number, Chavis a few, and Dalbec is in his first. Idk, you see Dalbec’s whiff rate in the zone? He’s pretty helpless against righties I do agree that Franchy should be getting regular AB’s in Worcester though. But while he’s up I’d at least like to see him play against righties because otherwise I don’t see the point in keeping him here This I completely agree with. Play him or option him. Don’t sit him. |
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2021 18:40:52 GMT -5
I hate that man like poison
Nice single you obese turd
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 25, 2021 18:42:19 GMT -5
I hate that man like poison Nice single you obese turd One of the most annoying meaningless singles ever. |
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Post by semperfisox on May 25, 2021 18:44:48 GMT -5
Santana!
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Post by Guidas on May 25, 2021 18:45:04 GMT -5
Santana is a baseball stud.
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