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8/13-8/15 Red Sox vs. Orioles Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 13, 2021 7:08:30 GMT -5
8/13 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 8-5, 4.34, 118.1 IP, 131K:50BB) vs. Orioles (RHP Spenser Watkins, 2-3, 4.22, 32.0 IP, 22K:11BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 8/14 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale, N/A) vs. Orioles (RHP Jorge Lopez, 3-12, 5.75, 108.0 IP, 99K:50BB) 4:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 8/15 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez, 8-6, 5.24, 110.0 IP, 139K:33BB) vs. Orioles (TBD) 1:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2021: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 13, 2021 9:36:31 GMT -5
Hopefully the lowly O's are just what the doctor ordered for this sleepy sox squad. They need to win at least 2 of these.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 13, 2021 10:14:56 GMT -5
I suspect we are all so, so, SO ready to kick off a nice winning streak. May it begin tonight!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 13, 2021 10:24:17 GMT -5
at this point, not sure what to expect. Of course I want a sweep, but a series win would feel great also.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 13, 2021 10:42:10 GMT -5
Hopefully the lowly O's are just what the doctor ordered for this sleepy sox squad. They need to win at least 2 of these. The only thing that the O's are good at is hitting LH pitching (4th in the AL in OPS) |
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Post by Guidas on Aug 13, 2021 16:02:47 GMT -5
So they are activating Schwarber without any rehab games? He's just supposed to go from Grade 1 Hammy to Game Time with no real test drives? At a position he's never played?
Tell me now, ownership and Bloom are suddenly feeling pressure from following "the plan" and letting this team fester at the Deadline.
This ain't Tampa, Chaim. There are actual fans here, and they pay attention to the team.
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 13, 2021 16:13:09 GMT -5
So they are activating Schwarber without any rehab games? He's just supposed to go from Grade 1 Hammy to Game Time with no real test drives? At a position he's never played? Tell me now, ownership and Bloom are suddenly feeling pressure from following "the plan" and letting this team fester at the Deadline. This ain't Tampa, Chaim. There are actual fans here, and they pay attention to the team. He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. |
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Post by fenwaymabe on Aug 13, 2021 16:13:15 GMT -5
Here's hoping for a sweep, but willing to take 2 out of 3. I don't know what happens if we don't pull out a series win. We just need to get out of this funk.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 13, 2021 16:13:25 GMT -5
So they are activating Schwarber without any rehab games? He's just supposed to go from Grade 1 Hammy to Game Time with no real test drives? At a position he's never played? Tell me now, ownership and Bloom are suddenly feeling pressure from following "the plan" and letting this team fester at the Deadline. This ain't Tampa, Chaim. There are actual fans here, and they pay attention to the team. They're feeling pressure after letting the team fester at the deadline, and the way we know is that they're playing the all-star slugger they acquired at the deadline! |
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 13, 2021 16:18:17 GMT -5
So Schwarber gets activated & starts on Friday the 13th.
I put the over under of games played for the Red Sox before he is hurt & misses the rest of the year at 10 games.
And I’ll take the under
I really hope I’m wrong & he is everything the Red Sox need.
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Post by arquimedezbozo on Aug 13, 2021 16:18:44 GMT -5
So they are activating Schwarber without any rehab games? He's just supposed to go from Grade 1 Hammy to Game Time with no real test drives? At a position he's never played? Tell me now, ownership and Bloom are suddenly feeling pressure from following "the plan" and letting this team fester at the Deadline. This ain't Tampa, Chaim. There are actual fans here, and they pay attention to the team. He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. Agreed. Also, maybe JD needed a night (or two) off, so they figured they may as well get Schwarber’s bat in the lineup without having to put him in the field. See how he feels tomorrow or Sunday and go from there. |
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 13, 2021 16:21:35 GMT -5
He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. Agreed. Also, maybe JD needed a night (or two) off, so they figured they may as well get Schwarber’s bat in the lineup without having to put him in the field. See how he feels tomorrow or Sunday and go from there. I'd bet he's on a mandate not to run full speed on any hit. |
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 13, 2021 16:54:57 GMT -5
Spenser Watkins
RHP
2-3, 4.22 ERA, 22 SO
Nick Pivetta
RHP
8-5, 4.34 ERA, 131 SO
BAL Lineup
C Mullins (L) CF
A Santander (S) LF
T Mancini (R) 1B
D Stewart (L) DH
A Hays (R) RF
P Severino (R) C
M Franco (R) 3B
J Mateo (R) 2B
R Martin (R) SS
Bos Lineup
K Hernández (R) 2B
A Verdugo (L) LF
X Bogaerts (R) SS
R Devers (L) 3B
H Renfroe (R) RF
K Schwarber (L) DH
K Plawecki (R) C
J Duran (L) CF
B Dalbec (R) 1B
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Post by widewordofsport on Aug 13, 2021 17:02:59 GMT -5
It will never not be amazing to get Pivetta and Seabold for a couple RPs on expiring deals.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 13, 2021 17:25:46 GMT -5
So they are activating Schwarber without any rehab games? He's just supposed to go from Grade 1 Hammy to Game Time with no real test drives? At a position he's never played? Tell me now, ownership and Bloom are suddenly feeling pressure from following "the plan" and letting this team fester at the Deadline. This ain't Tampa, Chaim. There are actual fans here, and they pay attention to the team. He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. I disagree that Bloom only gets 10%. I like Bloom, a lot, but supposedly he had approval to go over the luxury tax and fill the need at 1B with Hosmer and to buy a prospect from SD simultaneously. This was on the condition that Kimbrel to SD went through and since SD didn't get Kimbrel, they didn't trade Hosmer and the prospect. This is James Stu at 98.5 saying this with 100% confidence, so take for that what you will, but his claim is he knows this to be fact. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 13, 2021 17:41:09 GMT -5
Agreed. Also, maybe JD needed a night (or two) off, so they figured they may as well get Schwarber’s bat in the lineup without having to put him in the field. See how he feels tomorrow or Sunday and go from there. I'd bet he's on a mandate not to run full speed on any hit. He's been working out with the club since he arrived, doing "baseball activities." When they got him, they said it would be about two weeks -- it's now been two weeks. Either he gets his feet wet at 1B in Worcester while launching bombs against Scranton or he does it for the big club. Give me the bombs and I'll deal with the growing pains at 1B.
I guess you can spin it any way you want.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 13, 2021 17:41:28 GMT -5
He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. I disagree that Bloom only gets 10%. I like Bloom, a lot, but supposedly he had approval to go over the luxury tax and fill the need at 1B with Hosmer and to buy a prospect from SD simultaneously. This was on the condition that Kimbrel to SD went through and since SD didn't get Kimbrel, they didn't trade Hosmer and the prospect. This is James Stu at 98.5 saying this with 100% confidence, so take for that what you will, but his claim is he knows this to be fact. Eh? You want to blame Bloom more because San Diego didn't get Kimbrel? (And you'd rather have Hosmer than Schwarber?)
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 13, 2021 17:42:29 GMT -5
He's DH'ing, and JDM has the night off. I understand the frustration of the past few weeks but this is a bit over the top reactionary commentary. We all know how RS ownership works, if anything Chaim is 10% to blame if we even want to play that game for the deadline. Every single historical GM, Manager, Coach, Scout, baseball ops guy on this team knows that when it suits them, the owners will throw them to the wolves to protect their image. It's a repeating pattern from Tito, Theo, Cherrington, Farrell, Ron Jackson and on.... We can't change what was done at the deadline at this point, so it's moot to continue to relitigate it ad nauseam, we have to hope the players and management are strong enough to pull out of the tailspin, and if they aren't that they learned something they can bring into the offseason to make future iterations of this team more successful. I disagree that Bloom only gets 10%. I like Bloom, a lot, but supposedly he had approval to go over the luxury tax and fill the need at 1B with Hosmer and to buy a prospect from SD simultaneously. This was on the condition that Kimbrel to SD went through and since SD didn't get Kimbrel, they didn't trade Hosmer and the prospect. This is James Stu at 98.5 saying this with 100% confidence, so take for that what you will, but his claim is he knows this to be fact. Show me a sports talk radio guy who says things with less than 100% confidence and I'll show you an unemployed sports talk radio guy. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 13, 2021 17:50:17 GMT -5
I disagree that Bloom only gets 10%. I like Bloom, a lot, but supposedly he had approval to go over the luxury tax and fill the need at 1B with Hosmer and to buy a prospect from SD simultaneously. This was on the condition that Kimbrel to SD went through and since SD didn't get Kimbrel, they didn't trade Hosmer and the prospect. This is James Stu at 98.5 saying this with 100% confidence, so take for that what you will, but his claim is he knows this to be fact. Eh? You want to blame Bloom more because San Diego didn't get Kimbrel? (And you'd rather have Hosmer than Schwarber?) This was after the Sox had acquired Schwarber. The Sox aren't over luxury. They would have gone over luxury to get a top rated prospect and a washed up, but adequate replacement at 1B. I don't blame Bloom for not getting Hosmer if it was SD's failed trade that's to blame. The point is, if he was willing to go over than the luxury cap wasn't really a deterent which means you can't really blame ownership. Bloom made the choice. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 13, 2021 17:51:58 GMT -5
I disagree that Bloom only gets 10%. I like Bloom, a lot, but supposedly he had approval to go over the luxury tax and fill the need at 1B with Hosmer and to buy a prospect from SD simultaneously. This was on the condition that Kimbrel to SD went through and since SD didn't get Kimbrel, they didn't trade Hosmer and the prospect. This is James Stu at 98.5 saying this with 100% confidence, so take for that what you will, but his claim is he knows this to be fact. Show me a sports talk radio guy who says things with less than 100% confidence and I'll show you an unemployed sports talk radio guy. The point he specifically says it wasn't something he heard, or might have happened. He said he knew definitively that this was what happened. Again, it's his word, but a weird thing to stake your reputation on. |
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Post by incandenza on Aug 13, 2021 18:00:33 GMT -5
Eh? You want to blame Bloom more because San Diego didn't get Kimbrel? (And you'd rather have Hosmer than Schwarber?) This was after the Sox had acquired Schwarber. The Sox aren't over luxury. They would have gone over luxury to get a top rated prospect and a washed up, but adequate replacement at 1B. I don't blame Bloom for not getting Hosmer if it was SD's failed trade that's to blame. The point is, if he was willing to go over than the luxury cap wasn't really a deterent which means you can't really blame ownership. Bloom made the choice. Oh I see. Well in that case if not Hosmer, for whom should he have gone over the luxury tax? |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 13, 2021 18:08:34 GMT -5
This was after the Sox had acquired Schwarber. The Sox aren't over luxury. They would have gone over luxury to get a top rated prospect and a washed up, but adequate replacement at 1B. I don't blame Bloom for not getting Hosmer if it was SD's failed trade that's to blame. The point is, if he was willing to go over than the luxury cap wasn't really a deterent which means you can't really blame ownership. Bloom made the choice. Oh I see. Well in that case if not Hosmer, for whom should he have gone over the luxury tax? My point was more that IF you wanted to play the blame game then it's more Bloom than Henry, but I still think the Sox could have outbid for Rizzo or got creative and went after Cron. I know Colorado is weird though. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 13, 2021 18:19:29 GMT -5
Kinda sucks that Cedric Mullins randomly turned into a stud while the Orioles control his rights for a lot more years
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 13, 2021 18:20:57 GMT -5
I really would like to know what the Hosmer deal was, what the Will Myers offer was and what the deal with the Mets PTBNL was.
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Aug 13, 2021 18:21:32 GMT -5
Hoping Schwarber proves me wrong.
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