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Post by bosoxnation on Nov 29, 2021 12:35:22 GMT -5
Why not sign the 3 of em & package Bogaerts & JD in a trade to a NL team that needs a SS & a DH for young controllable prospects or individually to teams for the same? You’re joking I hope.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 29, 2021 12:44:26 GMT -5
Why not sign the 3 of em & package Bogaerts & JD in a trade to a NL team that needs a SS & a DH for young controllable prospects or individually to teams for the same? The NL doesn't even have the DH yet. And no they're not doing what you're suggesting.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 29, 2021 14:00:12 GMT -5
We are going to get action today.
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Post by dajubaisasoxfan on Nov 29, 2021 14:21:10 GMT -5
Why not sign the 3 of em & package Bogaerts & JD in a trade to a NL team that needs a SS & a DH for young controllable prospects or individually to teams for the same? The NL doesn't even have the DH yet. And no they're not doing what you're suggesting. Thank goodness
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Post by Guidas on Nov 29, 2021 14:34:09 GMT -5
Why not sign the 3 of em & package Bogaerts & JD in a trade to a NL team that needs a SS & a DH for young controllable prospects or individually to teams for the same? I would not do that. You are trading away two elite or near-elite offensive players and getting one offensive #8-9 hitter and two hitters in decline. I like Bryant over Schwarber because he offers max flexibility and better OBP. Schwarber basically is or will be a DH with substandard D elsewhere. No thank you to your proposal, personally. I prefer to sweeten Xander's deal and let JD have a walk year.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 29, 2021 14:39:50 GMT -5
Feeling a little bit like if baez signs elsewhere which I expect him to bloom will be bargain hunting the rest of the offseason. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the sense I'm getting as they aren't linked to anyone else really. Part of me wouldn't really hate it if they maintain their flexibility long term but part of me would be pretty angry if they don't add at least one difference maker to a team that was a couple games away from the world series. Maybe Bloom feels they over achieved and it's too early to push his chips in.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 29, 2021 14:53:00 GMT -5
Feeling a little bit like if baez signs elsewhere which I expect him to bloom will be bargain hunting the rest of the offseason. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the sense I'm getting as they aren't linked to anyone else really. Part of me wouldn't really hate it if they maintain their flexibility long term but part of me would be pretty angry if they don't add at least one difference maker to a team that was a couple games away from the world series. Maybe Bloom feels they over achieved and it's too early to push his chips in. I feel like they overachieved. They outscored their opponents by just 80 runs last year. That doesn't scream out juggernaut. Now they have lost E-Rod and replaced him with Wacha - at the moment. I'd say the Sox have a lot of adding to do to get them to a true 95 - 100 win level and a bit of work to do just to get them to a projected 92 win level. They're near 180 million in their payroll, so my guess is they're staying under the luxury tax limit which limits any starting pitching options and probably allows them 1 hitter, whether it's bringing back Schwarber or signing Baez. My guess is Bloom holds off beyond that to see if the luxury tax limit is raised or done away with by the new CBA. If it isn't raised much he probably doesn't do much more than either Baez/Schwarber. If it is, then maybe he goes after Stroman or Rodon if they're not signed before the freeze or he spends a lot up to the new limit on many different pieces. I figure he either signs Baez tonight or he's not doing anything else until after the freeze.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 29, 2021 15:31:00 GMT -5
I guess after Seager signs with the Rangers, the last big domino to fall will be Baez.
If the Tigers decide they don't want to spend top dollar for Correa I would think that they'll put in a big offer for Baez or at least outbid the Red Sox.
If they decide they want to seriously go after Correa then I think the Sox walk away with Baez. The Mets are spending like lunatics but I don't see them adding back Baez, too.
I think if they deem that Baez wants too much, the Sox will simply wait out the market and see what's left when the freeze is done.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 29, 2021 15:43:53 GMT -5
There's still not even a peep from the Sox or Correa's camp as of yet this off-season.
The more that drags out, the more I think Correa is signing with Boston. Probably not until the CBA is ratified however.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 29, 2021 15:53:50 GMT -5
There's still not even a peep from the Sox or Correa's camp as of yet this off-season. The more that drags out, the more I think Correa is signing with Boston. Probably not until the CBA is ratified however. I dont see it happening but I guess if all the other obvious options to sign him go a different route it does start to become more feasible.
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Post by nomar on Nov 29, 2021 17:12:10 GMT -5
Correa is going to get so much money lol. If Seager got 10/325 he’s probably pushing for 12/400
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 29, 2021 17:13:12 GMT -5
Correa is going to get so much money lol. If Seager got 10/325 he’s probably pushing for 12/400 Yeah, I'd say so. It's kind of funny. They're about to have a big showdown and the owners will cry poverty, yet here they are handing out record breaking contracts like candy during Halloween.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 29, 2021 17:24:21 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know why the Rangers didn't just offer that to Correa. Maybe they prefer Seagar to Correa?
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Post by Guidas on Nov 29, 2021 17:27:29 GMT -5
Correa is going to get so much money lol. If Seager got 10/325 he’s probably pushing for 12/400 I'd offer him 10/$351 with an opt-out after four years right now.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Nov 30, 2021 2:06:04 GMT -5
Baez to the tigers
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 30, 2021 3:14:28 GMT -5
So for 6 years. Baez going to the Tigers. We can pretty much guess around 25 million AAV. Around 140-170 million for Baez. Yeah he wasn't taking a 4 year 80 million dollar deal folks. Not with this market.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 30, 2021 7:17:42 GMT -5
Hate this signing for the Tigers as much as I like their ERod signing. Baez is not a good baseball player. Strikes out way too much and is the type of player good teams get away from. Thankfully the Sox are in bargin hunting mode and I hope they didn't even come close to offering this madness to Baez.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 30, 2021 7:19:45 GMT -5
Correa is going to get so much money lol. If Seager got 10/325 he’s probably pushing for 12/400 I'd offer him 10/$351 with an opt-out after four years right now. Why not offer that to Xander now and have him rip up his current deal that he's 110% opting out of next year? I mean they won't and there's also a small chance they trade him next year so they don't lose him for nothing.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 30, 2021 8:01:18 GMT -5
I'd offer him 10/$351 with an opt-out after four years right now. Why not offer that to Xander now and have him rip up his current deal that he's 110% opting out of next year? I mean they won't and there's also a small chance they trade him next year so they don't lose him for nothing. I would offer Xander a $5M raise per year plus an extra year.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 30, 2021 8:25:31 GMT -5
Why not offer that to Xander now and have him rip up his current deal that he's 110% opting out of next year? I mean they won't and there's also a small chance they trade him next year so they don't lose him for nothing. I would offer Xander a $5M raise per year plus an extra year. I don't think he takes that based on the money being thrown around.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 30, 2021 8:25:50 GMT -5
Hate this signing for the Tigers as much as I like their ERod signing. Baez is not a good baseball player. Strikes out way too much and is the type of player good teams get away from. Thankfully the Sox are in bargin hunting mode and I hope they didn't even come close to offering this madness to Baez. "Not a good baseball player" If a team had a player like him at every position they would win 110 games every year.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 30, 2021 9:30:40 GMT -5
If the Tigers are giving Baez 6 years and somewhere between 140 and 170 million, then you can only imagine what Correa is looking for. I'd guess 10 years 350 million. Maybe 12 years 400 million.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 30, 2021 9:56:14 GMT -5
I take it you didn't read my post that quoted the Athletic. The one that has projected. 24 for 5, 22.5 for 6 and 21 for 7. It would explain your question. This is why I originally said the amount without a term doesn't tell us much. Bottom line is you are suggesting a blown out of proportion 32m aav is too much for the Sox. Well of course it is and nobody is projecting he is going to sign for that much. You have assumed that based on a reported number with no years attached to it. My argument is that he could be worth the lower projections in comparison to the SS at the top of the market. Like the projections above. This is all rumors. Projections don't take into account about opt outs. Everyone is looking at this through a Red Sox fans eyes. I'm looking at this through Baez's or his agents eyes. I'd be looking to at least match the last offer in spring training 8 months ago. Whether I get there now or a year or two from now. I will want to get there. Yeah you were looking at it thru Baez and his agents eyes, they aren't the ones dictating his market value. The market and hence those projections is what dictates your vaue which happened to be right on at 6 140.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 30, 2021 10:02:40 GMT -5
Hate this signing for the Tigers as much as I like their ERod signing. Baez is not a good baseball player. Strikes out way too much and is the type of player good teams get away from. Thankfully the Sox are in bargin hunting mode and I hope they didn't even come close to offering this madness to Baez. "Not a good baseball player" If a team had a player like him at every position they would win 110 games every year. He strikes out a ton and doesn't draw walks. Thats the type of player I'm glad the Sox aren't investing in.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Nov 30, 2021 10:06:30 GMT -5
I have nowhere near the intelligence level needed to predict FA contracts, but I have found in recent years that if I take fan predictions and add 40-50% I come pretty darn close.
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