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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 5, 2022 22:41:09 GMT -5
Bloom was brought in to both rebuild, and to win. The speed he's done that with is what's been stunning. He adapted his tactics to the pandemic so well that, in one shortened year, he accomplished the first and fattened the roster to accomplish the second the very next season. That's even as they apologized for the bad look in 2020!
There's not much for me to complain about. I think I'll still feel that way no matter what happens next in what has got to be the toughest division in baseball.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 6, 2022 6:24:29 GMT -5
So, a few things.
1) Just as a point of information, "I" don't update the rankings. I'm the hype man here in the forum to get people talking about them, but the full brass (Mike, Ian, James, me) does the rankings together and Mike's the one who does the physical update. I get kind of touchy about this sort of thing because the site has a staff of like 20 folks and things get attributed to "me" in interviews and things like that and I want to be clear it's not just me.
2) Hope you don't mind me changing the thread title but the one you had was kind of unintentionally misleading - it seemed like you were going to discuss the methods he had used to acquire prospects. You didn't do anything wrong - this just seems to fit your point better.
3) Would really push back on the idea that minor league win-loss records matter or signal anything. Is it better if teams win? Sure! But consider the 2015 Greenville Drive, pretty much considered the gold standard for an affiliate in recent memory in this system. 16 future MLB players including Devers, Moncada, Benintendi, Kopech, Chavis, and more. They went 72-68.
Now, sometimes having a good prospect team coincides with the team winning games. The 2005 Portland Sea Dogs were the other loaded team in the SoxProspects era (Pedroia, Hanley, Lester, Papelbon, Moss, etc.), and they went 76-66. But I'm sure you'll find plenty of examples through the years of strong prospect teams with bad records because it's full of young guys being challenged with aggressive assignments and bad prospect teams winning with a bunch of guys old for the level. Consider that when guys perform particularly well, they often get promoted mid year, right?
I just really don't think there's much of a correlation and would caution against reading into an affiliate's record as though there always is one. Sometimes there can be, for sure - I can recall truly putrid clubs full of indy ball fillers, particularly in Portland. But I think there's a need to look closer at why a team won or lost games.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 6, 2022 10:02:41 GMT -5
The goal of minor league teams is to develop future MLB players, much more than it is to win. It's great when you get both, but they manage somewhat like it's spring training since the record does not really matter that much.
Anyone remember the "culture of winning" thread from a few years ago?
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Post by jaffinator on Apr 6, 2022 13:00:52 GMT -5
Pure anecdote, not making an argument about whether this should be a goal or not, but I think the Rays affiliates lead every single league they were in last season.
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