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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2022 4:23:17 GMT -5
Heck, let Schreibs finish this one out! Correct. Schreiber is a two inning pitcher. And he's headed back to AAA on Thursday night
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Post by mobaz on Apr 28, 2022 5:43:48 GMT -5
Hot Take in November: Wacha is too bad to be a starter and at $7m way too expensive as a long reliever. Hot Take in April: We won't be able to afford Wacha the starter in the offseason
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 28, 2022 6:59:09 GMT -5
Then keep blowing saves. I dunno. I see more value in the substance of those innings than saying we're going to have Whitlock piggyback Hill in a 7-2 game. He's clearly your best reliever and you're using him in multiple innings (which is great) except most of the time you're losing anyways. Best reliever should almost always be the guy on the mound when the game is on the line, not starting the 5th inning. When Sale and Paxton arrive, two pitchers will be heading to the pen. It makes sense to throw Houck or Whitlock into the 9th inning spot and fix the hierarchy. Barnes is a mess which is causing all of this chaos in the pen. Your arguments sound a lot better when you get to make things up! Game scores/Inning/Innings Pitched when Whitlock has entered the game in relief. Red Sox scores on the left: 4-3, B6 (6-8) 3-3, B6 (6-9) 4-0, T7 (7-9) 2-1, T9 (9) It's incredibly reductive to assume that "when the game is on the line" only refers to the 9th inning, but you can continue to believe whatever you want to believe. Aware of the situations. Just like I'm sure you're aware that the Sox currently have the most blown saves in the league at 4. The value of having your best reliever at the end of the game is high. But then again the conversation is pretty much moot at this point since Whitlock is probably going into the rotation for now. Hell maybe he does well to the point where he stays in the rotation while Pivetta goes to the pen with Houck when Sale and Paxton come back. They need to find a closer and fast since Barnes needs to go on IL or get demoted to Worcester to find his confidence/stuff again. Because this version of Barnes is the worst I've seen him.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 28, 2022 10:04:11 GMT -5
Infield defense watch: Bogaerts is already at -2 by DRS and OAA, which puts him on pace for the worst defensive season of his career. That doesn't surprise me too much; he hasn't looked that good to me.
Devers is -1 by DRS and 0 by RAA, and hasn't committed an error yet. He has looked better to me, and I wouldn't have been surprised if his numbers were a little better than that.
Story is at -2 DRS/-1 RAA. He's botched a lot more easy plays than I would have expected (though I understand the prevailing view here is that much of this is Bobby Dalbec's fault).
Speaking of Dalbec, he's the only one in positive territory by OAA (+1), but he's also -1 by DRS. "Basically average" seems right.
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Post by manfred on Apr 28, 2022 10:18:24 GMT -5
Infield defense watch: Bogaerts is already at -2 by DRS and OAA, which puts him on pace for the worst defensive season of his career. That doesn't surprise me too much; he hasn't looked that good to me.
Devers is -1 by DRS and 0 by RAA, and hasn't committed an error yet. He has looked better to me, and I wouldn't have been surprised if his numbers were a little better than that.
Story is at -2 DRS/-1 RAA. He's botched a lot more easy plays than I would have expected (though I understand the prevailing view here is that much of this is Bobby Dalbec's fault).
Speaking of Dalbec, he's the only one in positive territory by OAA (+1), but he's also -1 by DRS. "Basically average" seems right.
That is strange because watching the games I’d have a different view. Devers has been very good, making all the routine plays and a few nice ones. X has been fine. Story has made some very nice plays but a few bad errors. Dalbec has been the weakest, though his bad moments are often technically errors on someone else.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 28, 2022 10:25:15 GMT -5
I haven't seen every game, so maybe I'm responding to a skewed sample, but Xander's range has looked very ugh to me, and he's botched a couple of routine plays to boot (3 errors already, which puts him on pace for about 25).
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Post by cdj on Apr 28, 2022 11:21:13 GMT -5
Xander’s defense looks more or less the same to me (not good)
I think Devers has been good by any standard
Story has been hit or miss. Some spectacular stuff, some yucky stuff
Dalbec has improved immensely since when he first started, his bad moments have just come in key spots
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 28, 2022 11:40:50 GMT -5
Xanders defense has been very meh but that bat is playing extremely well. They should be able to get a couple of really solid prospects for him at the deadline if this keeps up. You can't let this guy leave for nothing in return.
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Post by manfred on Apr 28, 2022 11:47:39 GMT -5
Great googly-moogly today’s lineup burns my eyes.
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Post by cdj on Apr 28, 2022 12:07:48 GMT -5
YIKES Manoah gonna have an easy time
Story Verdugo Devers Hernandez JBJ Arroyo Dalbec Shaw Vazquez
Bleach my eyes
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Post by huskies15 on Apr 28, 2022 12:12:31 GMT -5
Story's first dinger comes today. Shaw maybe makes some contact. 2-1 victory.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 28, 2022 12:41:07 GMT -5
Is Casas being held down long enough to avoid burning a service year? Isn't it usually around May 1? And for RF, do they go longer into the summer for this year's Ramirez/Schwarber move? (and who, Nathaniel Cruz?) Well, if people are anointing Casas after just a handful of AAA at-bats then might as well bring up Duran who's doing great in his small sample, too. And (ducks) Franchy. It's not "he's hitting well, call him up." Casas is controlling the zone, hitting for power, and actually getting UNlucky on balls in play. He's also playing great defense. Duran has a .500 BABIP and is hitting for zero power - he ain't ready. And honestly, if it weren't for the potential call up of Casas (need the 40-man spot) and the fact the May 1 rule change means they probably keep 14 pitchers, I'd be advocating very strongly for Franchy to take over Shaw's role, as he literally could not be worse and he's presumably cheaper. Don't love the strikeouts but he's also more versatile defensively.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2022 13:20:05 GMT -5
Well, if people are anointing Casas after just a handful of AAA at-bats then might as well bring up Duran who's doing great in his small sample, too. And (ducks) Franchy. It's not "he's hitting well, call him up." Casas is controlling the zone, hitting for power, and actually getting UNlucky on balls in play. He's also playing great defense. Duran has a .500 BABIP and is hitting for zero power - he ain't ready. And honestly, if it weren't for the potential call up of Casas (need the 40-man spot) and the fact the May 1 rule change means they probably keep 14 pitchers, I'd be advocating very strongly for Franchy to take over Shaw's role, as he literally could not be worse and he's presumably cheaper. Don't love the strikeouts but he's also more versatile defensively. I'm all for Duran having zero to 10-15HR power if he's getting on base more. I know everyone wants double-digit HRs for every position if we're still predicated on 3 true outcomes, but I'd be all for a few singles/doubles hitters (esp, in Duran's case, with speed) if a guy can show he's got .350 or better OBP potential. Not sure that's Duran, but that was Benintendi before they changed his swing.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2022 13:20:11 GMT -5
Xander’s defense looks more or less the same to me (not good) I think Devers has been good by any standard Story has been hit or miss. Some spectacular stuff, some yucky stuff Dalbec has improved immensely since when he first started, his bad moments have just come in key spots Shaw as a late-inning defensive replacement might have worked I don't see a downside
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 28, 2022 13:29:25 GMT -5
YIKES Manoah gonna have an easy time Story Verdugo Devers Hernandez JBJ Arroyo Dalbec Shaw Vazquez Bleach my eyes This is even worse last Thursday's lineup. What gives with the pathetic lineups on Thursdays?
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2022 13:31:03 GMT -5
YIKES Manoah gonna have an easy time Story Verdugo Devers Hernandez JBJ Arroyo Dalbec Shaw Vazquez Bleach my eyes This is even worse last Thursday's lineup. images.app.goo.gl/1aMJ4HroZNALRvjE9Cora's regularly scheduled loss/getaway day line-up plus JD felt the adductor grab again during last night's game.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 28, 2022 13:37:38 GMT -5
The WooSox had a better lineup yesterday compared to this Red Sox lineup today. They should charge minor league ticket prices for lineups like this.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 28, 2022 13:59:39 GMT -5
Can we PLEASE keep the hottest bat in baseball in the lineup against a key divisional rival in a big early season matchup? Wtf. Inexcusable to sit X. The man can at least DH if you want him off his feet. Wow.
Edit- Whitlock is gonna have to be GREAT today.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 28, 2022 14:10:13 GMT -5
You know, if they could go 3-4 @ Tampa and @ Toronto, then that's a fine 7 game stretch.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 28, 2022 14:14:13 GMT -5
Vladdy is sitting today for them. A greqt chance to take the split. Another reason X shoupd be in there. Rest him in Baltimore tomorrow
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 28, 2022 14:28:26 GMT -5
I love Whitlock and he is capable of being a great front end starter now. However, I feel we need the Hammer in the pen for a while longer.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2022 14:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Apr 28, 2022 14:46:35 GMT -5
Well, if people are anointing Casas after just a handful of AAA at-bats then might as well bring up Duran who's doing great in his small sample, too. And (ducks) Franchy. It's not "he's hitting well, call him up." Casas is controlling the zone, hitting for power, and actually getting UNlucky on balls in play. He's also playing great defense. Duran has a .500 BABIP and is hitting for zero power - he ain't ready. And honestly, if it weren't for the potential call up of Casas (need the 40-man spot) and the fact the May 1 rule change means they probably keep 14 pitchers, I'd be advocating very strongly for Franchy to take over Shaw's role, as he literally could not be worse and he's presumably cheaper. Don't love the strikeouts but he's also more versatile defensively. I am the ultimate Franchy doubter and still agree with this. Shaw does nothing. If you aren’t going to plug Franchy in for him, when would you bring him up?
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 28, 2022 14:49:44 GMT -5
This makes me a lousy fan but I'm rooting for Shaw outs at this point.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 28, 2022 14:50:37 GMT -5
It's not "he's hitting well, call him up." Casas is controlling the zone, hitting for power, and actually getting UNlucky on balls in play. He's also playing great defense. Duran has a .500 BABIP and is hitting for zero power - he ain't ready. And honestly, if it weren't for the potential call up of Casas (need the 40-man spot) and the fact the May 1 rule change means they probably keep 14 pitchers, I'd be advocating very strongly for Franchy to take over Shaw's role, as he literally could not be worse and he's presumably cheaper. Don't love the strikeouts but he's also more versatile defensively. I am the ultimate Franchy doubter and still agree with this. Shaw does nothing. If you aren’t going to plug Franchy in for him, when would you bring him up? Free Franchy I say give him another legit turn now Give him regular at bats and let him play like 15-16 out of the next 20 games.
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