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5/19-5/22 Red Sox vs. Mariners Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 19, 2022 9:01:48 GMT -5
5/19 Red Sox (LHP Rich Hill, 1-1, 2.89, 28.0 IP, 21K:7BB) vs. Mariners (RHP George Kirby, 0-0, 0.90, 10.0 IP, 8K:1BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/20 Red Sox (TBD) vs. Mariners (LHP Robbie Ray, 4-3, 4.62, 48.2 IP, 50K:18BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/21 Red Sox (RHP Garrett Whitlock, 1-1, 2.43, 29.2 IP, 37K:10BB) vs. Mariners (RHP Chris Flexen, 1-6, 4.35, 39.1 IP, 29K:12BB) 4:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/22 Red Sox (RHP Nathan Eovaldi, 1-2, 4.32, 41.2 IP, 42K:7BB) vs. Mariners (RHP Logan Gilbert, 4-2, 2.40, 45.0 IP, 51K:16BB) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2022: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by kjkramer on May 19, 2022 10:48:39 GMT -5
Let's get 3 and hope for 4
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2022 10:54:16 GMT -5
Elon Alum George Kirby
Time to baptize him with that AL East fire….although he did shut down Tampa…
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Post by incandenza on May 19, 2022 11:01:20 GMT -5
Let's get 3 and hope for 4 The avatar, while annoying, is put-up-withable, but would it be too much to ask to not have to see an inane political statement every time you post a comment? I'm referring to your signature... |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 19, 2022 11:40:14 GMT -5
Let's get 3 and hope for 4 The avatar, while annoying, is put-up-withable, but would it be too much to ask to not have to see an inane political statement every time you post a comment? I'm referring to your signature... But what if Trump sees it and wants to sleep with him? |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 19, 2022 11:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on May 19, 2022 11:55:10 GMT -5
I haven’t checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top.
If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2.
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Post by incandenza on May 19, 2022 11:59:29 GMT -5
I havenât checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top. If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2. Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR.
What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively.
ADD: So here's how the defense breaks down, by OAA:
Bradley: +1 Kiké: +2 Verdugo: -1 Arroyo: -2
Basically they've given away the entirety of their defensive advantage in the 52 innings they've had Arroyo playing out there. And Arroyo has hit worse than JBJ anyway.
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Post by manfred on May 19, 2022 12:01:52 GMT -5
I haven’t checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top. If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2. Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR.
What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively.
Maybe that is… good? I mean, it is unsustainably bad, right? There has to be a hot streak coming… right? Right? 😬 |
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2022 12:12:44 GMT -5
Verdugo has been the definition of unsustainably bad. He’ll get hot if he keeps his head in the game and doesn’t get down on himself
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Post by manfred on May 19, 2022 12:41:57 GMT -5
Verdugo has been the definition of unsustainably bad. He’ll get hot if he keeps his head in the game and doesn’t get down on himself He’ll do better, but I think it is clear he is not what folks hoped for. It’s been said before, but he is a lot like Beni… good in the cost-controlled years, but not worth a real extension. |
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2022 13:09:36 GMT -5
Not excited to watch us swing against him, but excited to watch Kirby pitch. He’s a beast.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 19, 2022 13:35:47 GMT -5
Let's get 3 and hope for 4 The avatar, while annoying, is put-up-withable, but would it be too much to ask to not have to see an inane political statement every time you post a comment? I'm referring to your signature... I had to Google what the heck EWTTS even was. I assumed it was Everyone With Typhus in Truth Social. |
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2022 14:36:37 GMT -5
I havenât checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top. If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2. Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR. What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively. ADD: So here's how the defense breaks down, by OAA: Bradley: +1 Kiké: +2 Verdugo: -1 Arroyo: -2 Basically they've given away the entirety of their defensive advantage in the 52 innings they've had Arroyo playing out there. And Arroyo has hit worse than JBJ anyway.
I’m not sure why Duran isn’t up. I don’t think Verdugo playing RF is going to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Lets see if Duran can hit and if he’s a part of the future. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 15:55:00 GMT -5
I haven’t checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top. If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2. Instead of saying “It seems hard to TOP”, you might have said that the Red Sox outfield is “hard to bottom”….lol |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2022 15:57:00 GMT -5
Gonna go ahead and say that there's a reason nobody has used that particular phrasing...
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Post by nomar on May 19, 2022 15:58:25 GMT -5
Gonna go ahead and say that there's a reason nobody has used that particular phrasing... while caveating that there’s also nothing wrong with it of course. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 15:58:44 GMT -5
I havenât checked, but do the Red Sox have the worst OF in baseball statistically? It seems hard to top. If they played Franchy in right, they would have three negative-bWAR OFers: Verdugo -0.5, Kiké -0.1, and Franchy -0.2. Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR.
What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively.
ADD: So here's how the defense breaks down, by OAA:
Bradley: +1 Kiké: +2 Verdugo: -1 Arroyo: -2
Basically they've given away the entirety of their defensive advantage in the 52 innings they've had Arroyo playing out there. And Arroyo has hit worse than JBJ anyway.
I am surprised Arroyo is still being used at all. He has been bad both offensively and defensively, and it is not like he will be pinch hitting for anyone. His spot would be better filled by someone else especially if Story were allowed to play SS in the rare days that Bogaerts is not at SS. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 16:02:41 GMT -5
Gonna go ahead and say that there's a reason nobody has used that particular phrasing... took me a while, but I see what you mean.😂 |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2022 16:02:52 GMT -5
Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR. What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively. ADD: So here's how the defense breaks down, by OAA: Bradley: +1 Kiké: +2 Verdugo: -1 Arroyo: -2 Basically they've given away the entirety of their defensive advantage in the 52 innings they've had Arroyo playing out there. And Arroyo has hit worse than JBJ anyway.
I am surprised Arroyo is still being used at all. He has been bad both offensively and defensively, and it is not like he will be pinch hitting for anyone. His spot would be better filled by someone else. He is now only starting against LHSP, and they've only faced 3 this month, so he's barely playing. |
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 19, 2022 16:08:45 GMT -5
Yep! The outfield is collectively batting a cool .200/.260/.298. A 59 wRC+, worst in the majors. Also worst by WAR.
What's surprising to me is that they're only middle of the pack defensively.
Maybe that is… good? I mean, it is unsustainably bad, right? There has to be a hot streak coming… right? Right? 😬 I saw a tweet today (maybe from Stats, maybe from Speier) questioning why Jarren Duran isn’t getting a look. If you can’t evaluate him now when the OF production is this poor something isn’t right. I get it that he’s imperfect. So is everyone else playing on the grass. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2022 16:30:45 GMT -5
Maybe that is… good? I mean, it is unsustainably bad, right? There has to be a hot streak coming… right? Right? 😬 I saw a tweet today (maybe from Stats, maybe from Speier) questioning why Jarren Duran isn’t getting a look. If you can’t evaluate him now when the OF production is this poor something isn’t right. I get it that he’s imperfect. So is everyone else playing on the grass. If you mean this one it was posting something someone else said, here Law. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on May 19, 2022 17:01:43 GMT -5
The avatar, while annoying, is put-up-withable, but would it be too much to ask to not have to see an inane political statement every time you post a comment? I'm referring to your signature... I had to Google what the heck EWTTS even was. I assumed it was Everyone With Typhus in Truth Social. I was thinking Election Was Totally Totally Stolen but yeah, it would nice if people on a baseball board would refrain from cutesy political codes or slogans (too bad Brandon Workman is gone or we could tell him "Let's go!" tee hee, tee hee). I've heard there are plenty of other places on the internet where people can bond over that stuff. |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 19, 2022 17:23:11 GMT -5
The Cards called up rumored Xander Bogaerts trade haul Nolan Gorman today
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Post by Guidas on May 19, 2022 17:56:13 GMT -5
The avatar, while annoying, is put-up-withable, but would it be too much to ask to not have to see an inane political statement every time you post a comment? I'm referring to your signature... I had to Google what the heck EWTTS even was. I assumed it was Everyone With Typhus in Truth Social. I still don't know what it means. It came up as a misspelling of "Watts" on two searches. I mean, really, how can that bug anyone, whatever it means? |
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