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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 9, 2013 19:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by jonasi on Apr 10, 2013 9:04:55 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 10, 2013 12:01:08 GMT -5
Nice second outing by Henri Quevedo 3IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 3-0 GO-FO so far.
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Post by njsox on Apr 10, 2013 12:15:44 GMT -5
Renfroe putting in a monster day. He is an interesting name that is all but forgotten about because he failed to impress in 2 years at Greenville. He did however greatly improve his strikeout rates from 1 year to the next and now it will be interesting to see if he can take another step forward this year. He is still age appropriate for his league and has a chance to play himself into relevance this year.
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Post by jdb on Apr 10, 2013 12:31:17 GMT -5
Cecchini with two hits that includes a double off a LHP. Big weakness last season.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 10, 2013 13:38:32 GMT -5
Nice second outing by Henri Quevedo 3IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 3-0 GO-FO so far. Winds up at 4, 1, 0, 3, 5, with 4-0 GO-FO. I think this means we're allowed to call him interesting again, right? |
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 10, 2013 14:12:15 GMT -5
11 hits for the offensively challenged Greenville team.
Jason Garcia gave up 3 ER's today, but in 5 innings and 4 hits. He had 8K's and 1 BB. After a solid first outing, I think is solid outing #2. He's too easily overlooked. He was a younger draftee and still has time and room for development. Appears he has some tools to work with. He's my sleeper prospect
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 10, 2013 18:27:13 GMT -5
When would guys stop running against Christian Vazquez? He caught 5/9 would be stealers so far.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 10, 2013 18:35:28 GMT -5
Good day for Britton on the mound and Vazquez behind and at the plate
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 10, 2013 18:44:49 GMT -5
When would guys stop running against Christian Vazquez? He caught 5/9 would be stealers so far. He's also got a double and a home run tonight, which is nice. |
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 10, 2013 19:02:08 GMT -5
After the spring performance, he is rocketing up my mental rankings.
Wouldn't he and lavarnway be a perfect tandem?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 10, 2013 19:09:53 GMT -5
Not sure what the point of an offense/defense tandem at catcher is when you never have defensive replacements at the position. They're also both righty hitters.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2013 19:27:01 GMT -5
Not sure what the point of an offense/defense tandem at catcher is when you never have defensive replacements at the position. They're also both righty hitters. Agreed and Lavarway seems o ave regressed. I don't expect anything from him. |
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 10, 2013 20:03:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know what Lavarnway is at this point, besides I guess the kind of player who doesn't really have a job in the 12 man bullpen era. And Vazquez is a neat little sleeper, but then, so was Mark Wagner.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 10, 2013 20:14:24 GMT -5
Mark Wagner was 24 when he played in AA while Vazquez is 22 now. Also I think Vazquez is a better defender.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 10, 2013 20:50:41 GMT -5
Drake Britton (W, 1-1) 6.0 4 1 1 0 4 0 4.00
Line of the night.
So the point Iis that Lavarnway is done? Really?
So who is our go forward catcher?
Salty is clearly not.
Huge holes in his swing, seems to actually lose interest during games and even within at bats and frames pitches about as well as a pitch back net.
Could it be Vasquez?
And if so wouldn't his backup accentuate his weakness?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 10, 2013 21:05:21 GMT -5
X 0/4 but didn't strike out. Baby steps.
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Post by jmei on Apr 10, 2013 21:24:54 GMT -5
Lavarnway basically hasn't hit in about nine months now. He needs to show a pulse at the plate before he enters the major league discussion again. Fortunately, he has two options left and at 24, he isn't at risk of aging into post-prospect status for another year or two. Still, his defense is still not close to starting caliber, and now questions have emerged about his once alleged major-league-ready bat.
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Post by atzar on Apr 10, 2013 21:34:03 GMT -5
Lavarnway basically hasn't hit in about nine months now. He needs to show a pulse at the plate before he enters the major league discussion again. Fortunately, he has two options left and at 24, he isn't at risk of aging into post-prospect status for another year or two. Still, his defense is still not close to starting caliber, and now questions have emerged about his once alleged major-league-ready bat. |
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Post by jmei on Apr 10, 2013 21:37:10 GMT -5
Oops, Lavarnway is actually 25, not 24. So he really needs some offensive success at AAA this year.
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Post by mainesox on Apr 11, 2013 0:34:39 GMT -5
So who is our go forward catcher? Salty is clearly not. Huge holes in his swing, seems to actually lose interest during games and even within at bats and frames pitches about as well as a pitch back net. Could it be Vasquez? And if so wouldn't his backup accentuate his weakness? Could be Vazquez I guess, but he'll most likely be mostly defense player. It could also be Swihart in a few years I guess, but I think the best answer at this point is we don't really have one. There are a couple guys who could become that guy, but there really isn't one right now. |
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 11, 2013 1:03:59 GMT -5
Swihart has the highest ceiling of any of the guys in the system, but he's still a long ways away, especially from being an every day legit starting catcher on a contender. I think they stick with Salty as long as they can, and hope some combination of Vazquez/Lavarnway gets them to Swihart or until they can get a C from outside of the organization
One problem is that they are already likely to at least relatively punt offensive production at SS (Iglesias), and they are already without a long term bat at 1B, so it could make it difficult to stay with a guy with + defense and a below average bat. Maybe they get enough offense from Iglesias or they can survive with a below average hitting SS/C, but that would probably require them getting a big bat at 1B
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 11, 2013 4:25:08 GMT -5
We need a realistic perspective on Vazquez. His defense is not just good, it's exceptional. He could easily fill Saltalamachhia's shoes right now, though he'd have to stretch them out a bit first. His catching skills are just about ML ready.
Here's the key. Someone this good doesn't have to hit .300, or even .270 to get a regular gig in the majors. And while the HR and 2B last night were his first hits, he's already picked up 4 walks in 5 games. So he's holding true to form: good patience a little pop. Don't ignore that. The FO certainly won't.
If he can start off hitting his weight in the majors, he's probably got a job waiting for him. Front line catchers, and that's what he is, are a valuable commodity. And those hitting skills should carry him forward from there. Many major league catchers start of just that way, including his mentors, the Molinas.
Someone yesterday mentioned that he's already thrown out 5 of 9 baserunners, and they wondered out loud when people would stop running on him. When he's thrown out 9 of 9? Because he might just do that.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 11, 2013 7:58:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know what Lavarnway is at this point, besides I guess the kind of player who doesn't really have a job in the 12 man bullpen era. And Vazquez is a neat little sleeper, but then, so was Mark Wagner. They should tell him to put the weight back on and just focus on hitting. |
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Post by joshv02 on Apr 11, 2013 8:09:01 GMT -5
Oops, Lavarnway is actually 25, not 24. So he really needs some offensive success at AAA this year. No - I don't think this is ever the right way to look at things. Lavarnway made it to AAA - that means he has shown the ability to be a ML viable option. At this point, he needs to be good enough to make the team fulltime by the time he is out of options. That is all. There is no magical clock tied to his age, from the team perspective. Obviously, his age at call-up relates to his ability to have a longer career, his peak, his HoF candidacy (  ), etc. But, if a player makes it to AAA, then he has no time frame to make the majors - other than his options status. Obviously, this is different for players who are marginal ML players - 28 year old 14th pitchers, 29 year old backup IFers, 28 year old defensively challenged RH hitters with little plate approach, etc. But, even they can carve out a career until they run out of options. But, the only real significant difference for Lavarnway is that he'll have one fewer option - his age is relatively unimportant at this point. After all, the difference b/w 24 and 25 isn't significant when it comes to expected ML peak for the ML team. |
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), etc. But, if a player makes it to AAA, then he has no time frame to make the majors - other than his options status.