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7/11-7/14 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2022 8:25:57 GMT -5
7/11 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 0-1, 9.00, 4.0 IP, 2K:3BB) @ Rays (LHP Josh Fleming, 2-4, 6.17, 23.1 IP, 21K:9BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 7/12 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale, 5-1, 3.16, 42.2 IP, 52K:12BB*) @ Rays (RHP Corey Kluber, 4-5, 3.62, 82.0 IP, 72K:13BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 7/13 Red Sox (RHP Josh Winckowski, 3-3, 4.35, 31.0 IP, 21K:12BB) @ Rays (LHP Shane McClanahan, 9-3, 1.73, 104.1 IP, 141K:19BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 7/14 Red Sox (RHP Kutter Crawford, 2-2, 4.50, 30.0 IP, 38K:15BB) @ Rays (RHP Drew Rasmussen, 5-3, 3.11, 66.2 IP, 57K:20BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI *2021 statisticsMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2022: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by mobaz on Jul 11, 2022 8:30:46 GMT -5
I was all for maybe streamlining AAAA pitching to help current team, but WOW has that depth been necessary. Insane. And Groome is eating a 40 man spot and not that close to the majors even in an emergency situation.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2022 8:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2022 9:57:02 GMT -5
It's not unusual for that to happen. I think they do that once a year, or at least a group of guys will go up to St. Petersburg.
That said... none of the FCL guys are "former teammates" of Bello. Lol.
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Post by nomar on Jul 11, 2022 10:20:43 GMT -5
I want Bello to throw a gem so badly
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 11, 2022 10:44:10 GMT -5
That said... none of the FCL guys are "former teammates" of Bello. Lol. A small, single tear rolls down Thad Ward's cheek. |
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Post by Guidas on Jul 11, 2022 11:01:53 GMT -5
I hate these guys more than I hate 4 games series - which would be a lot in both cases. I'm hoping we can somehow walk away with three Ws.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 11, 2022 11:18:43 GMT -5
Franco was put on the IL yesterday
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2022 11:42:14 GMT -5
That said... none of the FCL guys are "former teammates" of Bello. Lol. A small, single tear rolls down Thad Ward's cheek. He's already gone! |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2022 12:16:09 GMT -5
I was all for maybe streamlining AAAA pitching to help current team, but WOW has that depth been necessary. Insane. And Groome is eating a 40 man spot and not that close to the majors even in an emergency situation. I think this is part of the reason that Groome will be traded this month. He's not an obvious mid-season call-up to Worcester, so he's likely to debut in AAA next season while burning his last option. He'd need a more rapid development spurt at AAA than he's had at AA in order to secure an opening day spot on the 2024 Boston Red Sox. He's also never been tried as a RP.
His K/9 and BB/9 are both going in the wrong direction, so he might benefit from another org's coaches getting their hands on him. Seems like he makes more sense for a team with much less SP depth that isn't an obvious contender the next couple years.
Hello, Washington...
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2022 12:22:33 GMT -5
I've actually, as James can tell you, come around a bit on an "up-or-out" sort of promotion to Worcester for Groome. They certainly could use him there - they legit have 2 starters right now including Keller, who can easily later be bumped to the bullpen - and keeping Groome in AA only accomplishes so much.
I don't think he's got a ton of trade value right now, so I'd see what it looks like in AAA. My guess is he goes up whenever Ward returns to AA (not sure if he's making a stop in A Ball first).
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Post by benzinger on Jul 11, 2022 12:22:34 GMT -5
Franco was put on the IL yesterday That’s huge. I’m pretty sure his lifetime average against the Sox is .800 |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2022 12:35:17 GMT -5
I've actually, as James can tell you, come around a bit on an "up-or-out" sort of promotion to Worcester for Groome. They certainly could use him there - they legit have 2 starters right now including Keller, who can easily later be bumped to the bullpen - and keeping Groome in AA only accomplishes so much. I don't think he's got a ton of trade value right now, so I'd see what it looks like in AAA. My guess is he goes up whenever Ward returns to AA (not sure if he's making a stop in A Ball first). |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 11, 2022 12:48:43 GMT -5
It's not unusual for that to happen. I think they do that once a year, or at least a group of guys will go up to St. Petersburg. That said... none of the FCL guys are "former teammates" of Bello. Lol. Yeah, it isn't about his former teammates, it's about the current crop of FCL guys, and where they might expect their game to go if it all works out. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 11, 2022 13:57:48 GMT -5
Sounds like a Kiké to 60 day IL move might be coming soon.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 11, 2022 14:22:27 GMT -5
No Devers tonight.
Personally, I think he should pass on going to the All Star game. Stay home, rest-up, get more treatment if needed.
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Post by mobaz on Jul 11, 2022 15:16:08 GMT -5
No Devers tonight. Personally, I think he should pass on going to the All Star game. Stay home, rest-up, get more treatment if needed. Really hard ask, but I agree. |
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 11, 2022 15:23:03 GMT -5
Game 4 starter is officially TBD. ESPN is projecting Winckoswki.
The TBD has to be driven by the possibility that Eovaldi will start game 1 of the Yankees series, in which case Crawford would start game 4 here. But if he needs another rehab start, then it's Crawford on regular rest followed by Wincowski on 7 days in NY, or Winck on 6 days followed by Crawford on 5. The latter would seem to make more sense, given how Winck fared the last time he opened a series against the MFY's.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 11, 2022 15:28:20 GMT -5
ESPN has RHP WISLER tonight for Rays. Monday
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Post by cdj on Jul 11, 2022 16:07:24 GMT -5
Spoiler alert @ redsox lineup, he’s throwing a slider. If you think “this is the pitch he’s gonna break and throw me something straight” you’re wrong, another slider is coming
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 11, 2022 16:32:44 GMT -5
Game 4 starter is officially TBD. ESPN is projecting Winckoswki.
The TBD has to be driven by the possibility that Eovaldi will start game 1 of the Yankees series, in which case Crawford would start game 4 here. But if he needs another rehab start, then it's Crawford on regular rest followed by Wincowski on 7 days in NY, or Winck on 6 days followed by Crawford on 5. The latter would seem to make more sense, given how Winck fared the last time he opened a series against the MFY's.
LOL, the Sox official website has Seabold pitching game 3 of the series (as does ESPN). Seems like I'm not the only guy who forgot he's on the DL!
So the plan is clearly to have Eovaldi, Pivetta, Sale in NYC, with Pivetta getting an extra day's rest that he seems to need. If Eovaldi has a bad reaction to his start yesterday, then they'll do a bullpen game in game 4 and have Crawford in NYC game 1 ... but that would suck.
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 11, 2022 17:29:54 GMT -5
I want Bello to throw a gem so badly Since he is maybe the Sox best pitching prospect since Buchholz, here's hoping he can have a similar game to Clay's second start. |
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Post by cba82 on Jul 11, 2022 17:49:41 GMT -5
I hate these guys more than I hate 4 games series - which would be a lot in both cases. I'm hoping we can somehow walk away with three Ws. Really? I loathe the Blue Jays more than the Rays. I don’t even hate the current version of the Yankees as much as I have in past years. |
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Post by taiwansox on Jul 11, 2022 17:50:45 GMT -5
Spoiler alert @ redsox lineup, he’s throwing a slider. If you think “this is the pitch he’s gonna break and throw me something straight” you’re wrong, another slider is coming Bobby will swing at it even if he’s not at the plate |
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Post by cba82 on Jul 11, 2022 18:10:15 GMT -5
Good seats still available at the Trop, if you happen to be in the neighborhood.
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