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Post by notstarboard on Aug 2, 2022 15:30:49 GMT -5
I believe the new CBT changed the rule so that if you trade for a player, his CBT figure is the actual remaining dollars owed on the contract. You have a link to that information? I'm struggling to find anything official in a quick search. This is the best I've got - can't find the article the OP was referencing
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/th13nv/small_cba_tidbit_contract_aav_values_are/
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 2, 2022 15:31:47 GMT -5
This has probably been mentioned but one thing possibly holding things up is that the Red Sox can afford to play tough because if Hosmer finishers the year in SD he’s a 10/5 guy with full no-trade rights—and a demonstrated willingness to use them. San Diego can’t trade him next winter. Red Sox can. Good call. I was thinking about this earlier when he was balking at the WAS trade. Tick-tock, AJ....
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 2, 2022 15:33:11 GMT -5
The Padres are emptying the farm and the Red Sox will not be getting in on it. Come on man.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 2, 2022 15:33:31 GMT -5
I think the Padres will attach a prospect from Hosmer but I'm preparing to be disappointed if itd not Campusano who totally fits Boston's needs.
I think it'll be a different prospect though.
Of course it could be that Hosmer only comes attached to Kaycee McDonnell, who would regain her NESN gig.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 2, 2022 15:34:14 GMT -5
Can you explain the math on this? I thought his next three years were 3/39 and I would have expected that full AAV to count towards the tax under the new CBA. It should be 24mil - I grabbed the AAV from Fangraphs real quick - didn't check how they got their math. [39-(18-13)*3]=24 There was talk of the new CBA changing this, but I haven't seen anything official in this regard. If it doesn't work this way anymore, then I'm not a fan of this trade, regardless of the money (but depending on the prospect(s)). I haven't either, and now I'm starting to question what I thought I knew lol
If we could have Hosmer for zero luxury tax hit, that's an absolute win even with no prospects. Worst case you DFA him and you're done with it. Best case he's actually useful.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 2, 2022 15:36:53 GMT -5
You have a link to that information? I'm struggling to find anything official in a quick search. This is the best I've got - can't find the article the OP was referencing
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/th13nv/small_cba_tidbit_contract_aav_values_are/ If I remember correctly (and I'm not sure I do) I think it recalculates for back-loaded contracts, BUT NOT, for front-loaded contracts. If it did, a Hosmer trade would be even better. Nobody has spoken much about the CBA since April (aside from the international draft stuff).
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Post by jdb on Aug 2, 2022 15:46:38 GMT -5
My gut says there’s a bigger shoe to drop in this one. If we are adding to the payroll we might as well take Myers too. No reason to just go over.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Aug 2, 2022 15:47:35 GMT -5
Also, is there any chance that the hold up in announcing the deal is because Don Orsillo is part of the trade?
I would give them OB and call it a steal for Bloom.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2022 15:49:11 GMT -5
This has probably been mentioned but one thing possibly holding things up is that the Red Sox can afford to play tough because if Hosmer finishers the year in SD he’s a 10/5 guy with full no-trade rights—and a demonstrated willingness to use them. San Diego can’t trade him next winter. Red Sox can. San Diego is clearly going for it and have traded Gore. Maybe it will be expanded to include a Sox starter. The current 40 man roster limit also needs to be a factor here.
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Post by bosox904 on Aug 2, 2022 15:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 2, 2022 15:52:43 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 2, 2022 15:53:50 GMT -5
If its official, give us the dang details already!!
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Post by cdj on Aug 2, 2022 15:55:21 GMT -5
Prove it by telling us what it is Mark you coward!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 2, 2022 15:56:26 GMT -5
If its official, give us the dang details already!! I'm worried that it's just Hosmer. Hope to be wrong.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 2, 2022 15:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 2, 2022 15:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Aug 2, 2022 15:58:44 GMT -5
Plz do not tell me it’s just Hosmer coming over and we are actually giving up things
Edit: oh thank god
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:32 GMT -5
Some posters may try to burn this board down lol
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:36 GMT -5
Your are killing me smalls.
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Post by briam on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:42 GMT -5
I know there’s more to come but what in tarnation?!?!
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Post by Smittyw on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 2, 2022 15:59:57 GMT -5
They actually get a prospect for Hosmer? Guess Bloom didnt want him on the 40 next year.
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Post by chr31ter on Aug 2, 2022 16:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 2, 2022 16:01:03 GMT -5
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