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The Venezuelan God Of Walks: Brainer Bonaci
radiohix
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Post by radiohix on Aug 10, 2022 9:54:14 GMT -5
We tend to forget, but the Venezuelan kid posted a 111 wRC+ as a 16 yo in the DSL back in 2019. In fact, in his first month of professional baseball, he posted a gaudy 154 wRC+ with sparkling peripherals ( 10.9% walk rate, 12.9% K rate and an isolated power of .170) and then the rigors of a full season took their toll and dragged his numbers all the way to a still very respectable .367 wOBA. Since then, it seemed to me that we kinda forgot about him with the arrival of new stars middle infielders (Yorke and Mayer) his game’s lack of power and the fact that he’s been in the system for so long but if you look closely, Bonaci has been on a torrid streak for a few weeks now but let’s look at his season as a whole. - He’s 2nd in the Carolina League in Walk Rate with a Sotonian 18.6% - His swing and miss rate is 7th lowest in the CL with 7.9% - His BB/K ratio is 2nd with a 1.01 (the guy ahead of him is 3 years older) Some may criticize his lack of power (his OBP is higher than his SLG) but keep in mind that he plays in the hitters unfriendly confines of Salem’s park, just look at his Home/Away splits: Home IsoP: .094 Away IsoP: .146 It also seems like after dominating the strike zone, Bonaci is looking to do damage when getting a pitch he likes as shown in the table below. | Month | Hits | XBH | XBH% | | April | 12 | 2 | 16.67% | | May | 21 | 3 | 14.28% | | June | 21 | 6 | 28.57% | | July | 24 | 13 | 54.17% | | August | 6 | 2 | 33.34% |
He’s still young for his league and won’t be protected in the coming Rule 5 Draft but he’s at the very least an intriguing prospect. Thoughts? |
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Post by ramireja on Aug 10, 2022 11:35:50 GMT -5
I don't have much to add. I like him quite a bit for the reasons laid out above. I will say though that the little bits of footage I've seen on him playing D are also promising. Seems like he can legit carry a utility profile that covers 2B, SS, and 3B. He has the arm strength and actions to play at any of those positions IMO.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 15, 2023 15:16:31 GMT -5
Bonaci went 2 for 4 with a double to improve his line to .324/.395/.559. This is from 2 days ago just wanted to update his thread a little. We never speak of him and he's just another middle infield stud. I don't think we need any middle infielders for the next 10 years! I haven't seen him play much was hoping for some of yall's insights on him.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 18, 2023 15:01:56 GMT -5
This man is up to .340 BA with a .900 OPS. Am I the only one getting excited about this kid?!
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Post by Addam603 on May 19, 2023 6:17:00 GMT -5
I try to catch as many games as I can when the Sox come to town and I’ve probably seen almost 20 Salem games over the last couple years and Bonaci has been the third best player I’ve seen behind Mayer and 2021 Nick Yorke. I saw him during one of the best series of his career in Fredericksburg last year when he was just smashing extra base hits everywhere. The first thing you notice about Bonaci when you see him in person is that he’s small, but he is jacked. Not quite Jarren Duran level muscles but he is strong. I have him higher on the prospect list than both Lugo and Paulino. I’m a huge fan though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 19, 2023 21:23:06 GMT -5
I try to catch as many games as I can when the Sox come to town and I’ve probably seen almost 20 Salem games over the last couple years and Bonaci has been the third best player I’ve seen behind Mayer and 2021 Nick Yorke. I saw him during one of the best series of his career in Fredericksburg last year when he was just smashing extra base hits everywhere. The first thing you notice about Bonaci when you see him in person is that he’s small, but he is jacked. Not quite Jarren Duran level muscles but he is strong. I have him higher on the prospect list than both Lugo and Paulino. I’m a huge fan though, so take it with a grain of salt. THANK YOU! |
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Post by radiohix on Jul 18, 2023 19:13:45 GMT -5
Damn!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 28, 2024 17:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 28, 2024 17:51:07 GMT -5
Was wondering on Bonaci since I couldn't find any news since last year when the news broke. Sounds like it was as bad as first feared, time to jettison him from the org.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 28, 2024 17:53:49 GMT -5
There have been some pretty bad situations that got less punishment than this. There's probably court filings somewhere.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Feb 28, 2024 18:44:39 GMT -5
I can't imagine he plays BB again. Depending on the particulars, he's probably looking at prison time.
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Post by cdj on Feb 28, 2024 19:12:23 GMT -5
Do we know exactly what he did yet?
Obviously it can’t be good, his career is very much in jeopardy
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Post by nelledouville on Feb 28, 2024 19:22:27 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life when the reality is issues outside of the sport will occasionally surface. I don't know which of DV, sexual assault, or child abuse is involved, but whichever one it is, it is an egregious thing. Baseball rightfully acted accordingly.
There is no way I can view his suspension as harsh. I will only condemn whatever he did, and hope that as soon as the Sox are allowed to do so, they end the relationship.
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 28, 2024 23:47:11 GMT -5
Ah man, I really liked him as a prospect. Which is obviously irrelevant because it sounds like he did something truly heinous.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 29, 2024 10:41:53 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life when the reality is issues outside of the sport will occasionally surface. I don't know which of DV, sexual assault, or child abuse is involved, but whichever one it is, it is an egregious thing. Baseball rightfully acted accordingly. There is no way I can view his suspension as harsh. I will only condemn whatever he did, and hope that as soon as the Sox are allowed to do so, they end the relationship. How can you determine any of this without knowing a single detail? This is a strange take. I hope you never get accepted as a juror. It sounds like it was probably pretty bad, but in the absence of any detail whatsoever, I cannot judge. |
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Post by puzzler on Feb 29, 2024 10:48:12 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life when the reality is issues outside of the sport will occasionally surface. I don't know which of DV, sexual assault, or child abuse is involved, but whichever one it is, it is an egregious thing. Baseball rightfully acted accordingly. There is no way I can view his suspension as harsh. I will only condemn whatever he did, and hope that as soon as the Sox are allowed to do so, they end the relationship. How can you determine any of this without knowing a single detail? This is a strange take. I hope you never get accepted as a juror. It sounds like it was probably pretty bad, but in the absence of any detail whatsoever, I cannot judge. I'm with you. It doesn't sound good and I reserve the right to condemn him and whatever he did in the strongest possible terms. But I'm not going to do that when knowing ZERO about anything. |
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Post by mobaz on Feb 29, 2024 10:52:33 GMT -5
Because there are no actual stakes for "judgement" here. It's literally pixels, and I'd rather spend pixels on people NOT credibly accused of DV, SA, or child abuse. He's not here, his mom isn't here, and concerning baseball I don't want him associated with my favorite team. I can fix my pixels later if somehow it turns out he was helping a nun walk across the street.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 29, 2024 10:54:08 GMT -5
Because there are no actual stakes for "judgement" here. It's literally pixels, and I'd rather spend pixels on people NOT credibly accused of DV, SA, or child abuse. He's not here, his mom isn't here, and concerning baseball I don't want him associated with my favorite team. I can fix my pixels later if somehow it turns out he was helping a nun walk across the street. I don't know what he did, but the punishment was appropriate? |
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Post by mobaz on Feb 29, 2024 11:38:37 GMT -5
Because there are no actual stakes for "judgement" here. It's literally pixels, and I'd rather spend pixels on people NOT credibly accused of DV, SA, or child abuse. He's not here, his mom isn't here, and concerning baseball I don't want him associated with my favorite team. I can fix my pixels later if somehow it turns out he was helping a nun walk across the street. I don't know what he did, but the punishment was appropriate?Almost certainly not. No collectively bargained punishment can be appropriate. It's either too harsh based on unconfirmable accusations or not nearly harsh enough for potential crimes as described. But rooting for guys NOT credibly accused of these makes me feel better than rooting for guys who ARE. Thus ends my use of pixels. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Feb 29, 2024 13:56:16 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life ... Nope. |
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Post by brendan98 on Feb 29, 2024 14:50:15 GMT -5
The responsible thing to do is to let the legal process play out before rushing to judgement. That said, the situation sounds bad for sure.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 29, 2024 16:24:23 GMT -5
The responsible thing to do is to let the legal process play out before rushing to judgement. That said, the situation sounds bad for sure. This is where I'm at too. If he is exonerated then keep him. If he is guilty of this stuff, I hope he gets shot into the sun and is never allowed to play again. |
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Post by nelledouville on Feb 29, 2024 18:56:25 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life when the reality is issues outside of the sport will occasionally surface. I don't know which of DV, sexual assault, or child abuse is involved, but whichever one it is, it is an egregious thing. Baseball rightfully acted accordingly. There is no way I can view his suspension as harsh. I will only condemn whatever he did, and hope that as soon as the Sox are allowed to do so, they end the relationship. How can you determine any of this without knowing a single detail? This is a strange take. I hope you never get accepted as a juror. It sounds like it was probably pretty bad, but in the absence of any detail whatsoever, I cannot judge. We see it differently, and that's fine. I opined on a baseball decision, not a court of law decision. I've served on 3 juries, two as foreperson. I've also been on the wrong side of a courtroom, something for which I am not proud. There is a difference between 'not guilty' and 'innocent', a measure not binding on a business. The Red Sox are a brand that appeals to families, including children. I'm sure the Sox are on top of it. The team has demonstrated in the past that it will act appropriately and will not tolerate DV or sexual assault. It will be guided by its and MLB's legal people, which is why I suggested 'as soon as they are allowed to do so.' Please enjoy your night. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Feb 29, 2024 20:00:36 GMT -5
We all tend to view players as larger than life when the reality is issues outside of the sport will occasionally surface. I don't know which of DV, sexual assault, or child abuse is involved, but whichever one it is, it is an egregious thing. Baseball rightfully acted accordingly. There is no way I can view his suspension as harsh. I will only condemn whatever he did, and hope that as soon as the Sox are allowed to do so, they end the relationship. How can you determine any of this without knowing a single detail? This is a strange take. I hope you never get accepted as a juror. It sounds like it was probably pretty bad, but in the absence of any detail whatsoever, I cannot judge. But we do know some things. He was suspended for a year (a long and valuable period of time for a young guy trying to develop into a major leaguer) for violating not one, not two, but three policies, none of which are jaywalking or a parking violation. DV, sexual assault and child abuse are major trespasses against other human beings. And as far as I can tell, he and his reps haven't issued any public statements questioning the findings or the suspension. The fact is that unless a crime is caught on video we rarely know what happened, even when there's a jury verdict or a guilty plea. Guilty people sometimes walk and innocent sometimes get locked up. Race, a defendants's ability to buy big-time lawyers, a defendant's celebrity and/or political background, flawed judges and juries, inept prosecutors or defense lawyers, corrupt cops, and many other factors affect outcomes. Based on what we do know, it's entirely reasonable for people to not want the kid on their BB team. It wouldn't be reasonable for someone to be calling for a massive prison sentence at this point. That's where the details are important. For instance, sexual assault can be accidentally on purpose stumbling into another person while drunk and acting in a way that constitutes a low degree of sexual assault. It could also be an outright, violent rape. |
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Post by TearsIn04 on Feb 29, 2024 20:09:58 GMT -5
The responsible thing to do is to let the legal process play out before rushing to judgement. That said, the situation sounds bad for sure. The legal process really has nothing to do with it. Employees get fired or suspended all the time without a conviction. In most states, certain charges get dropped for first-time offenders if the person fulfills certain conditions, but the employer can still take action. Innocent until proven guilty is a sacred legal standard that does and should apply in a courtroom. It's not binding on an employer. A dude who gets into a physical fight at work, for instance, is probably going to get s-canned. The employer doesn't have to report it to the cops and wait for a court disposition before walking the guy to the door. |
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