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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Aug 14, 2022 22:55:21 GMT -5
For the love of God can the sox please sign one of their homegrown prospects to something like the braves have done with their guys? I volunteer Bleis and Mayer to be the first! Garrett Whitlock should give you hope
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 20, 2022 13:30:42 GMT -5
Where has Bleis been the past few days?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 20, 2022 20:56:10 GMT -5
Where has Bleis been the past few days? Florida From the home page: Has missed last 5 games with lower back stiffness
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Post by radiohix on Aug 21, 2022 7:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Oct 3, 2022 11:15:57 GMT -5
12:30 Jon: is Miguel Bleis someone who might jump into 50 tier this cycle or is that a little early? 12:30 Eric A Longenhagen: The plate discipline piece there is pretty scary, but he is an up-the-middle type with 70 bat speed so it’s totally defensible to have him there based on what his high-end outcomes are, even if there’s risk blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-longenhagen-chat/
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Post by seamus on Oct 3, 2022 13:06:31 GMT -5
Complaining about plate discipline with an 18-year-old in the FCL seems a bit silly. My understanding is that the K's haven't been due to in-zone swing & miss, which would be a much greater concern at his level than chasing a bit. If that's the biggest complaint someone can muster, Bleis should absolutely be soaring up the national rankings.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 3, 2022 13:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah chase could improve but I don't know that it's terrible, and in-zone whiff was very good. Wasn't great against off-speed/spin but your point stands there.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Oct 3, 2022 14:20:29 GMT -5
Out of 53 eligible hitters in the FCL, Bleis was 38th (26.9%) in strikeout rate and 48th (6%) in walk rate; BB/K ratio is 51st (0.22).
On the bright side, he was 6th (142; 2nd among 18 year olds) in wRC+, 2nd in ISO (.242) and tied for 1st in Spd (9.3).
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 12, 2022 10:14:21 GMT -5
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Post by jimoh on Oct 12, 2022 12:08:26 GMT -5
The National Rankings thread noted last week that Fangraphs (Longenhagen) has updated his end-of-year top 100 and put Bleis at 58.
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Post by bosox904 on Jan 6, 2023 16:11:40 GMT -5
Ben Badler and Callazo released a new episode of their Future Projections podcast and discuss Bleis. He could make their top 100, although they said it's not for sure he will. But could be a top 25-50 prospect after a couple months if the season starting.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jan 6, 2023 16:22:29 GMT -5
Ben Badler and Callazo released a new episode of their Future Projections podcast and discuss Bleis. He could make their top 100, although they said it's not for sure he will. But could be a top 25-50 prospect after a couple months if the season starting.Did they say this last part or is that your own opinion?
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Post by bosox904 on Jan 6, 2023 16:50:18 GMT -5
Ben Badler and Callazo released a new episode of their Future Projections podcast and discuss Bleis. He could make their top 100, although they said it's not for sure he will. But could be a top 25-50 prospect after a couple months if the season starting.Did they say this last part or is that your own opinion? That's what one of them said. I went back and listened after I hit submit and he actually said a few months, not couple. But I'm at work so hadn't had a chance to edit it.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 6, 2023 17:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jan 6, 2023 19:26:10 GMT -5
Lock him up!!!!
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jan 6, 2023 19:49:21 GMT -5
Is anyone else having trouble reading this? I'm assuming blue is below average but I have a hard time believing a 106 EV would be below average for the complex leagues. And if it's relative to MLB players, what's the point of that?
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Post by bosoxnation on Jan 7, 2023 12:12:39 GMT -5
Is anyone else having trouble reading this? I'm assuming blue is below average but I have a hard time believing a 106 EV would be below average for the complex leagues. And if it's relative to MLB players, what's the point of that? From what I see he just needs to work on hitting breaking balls and he’s a ML bat.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 7, 2023 13:53:18 GMT -5
Oh I hope he has the helium for a multiple promotion in 2023
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 8, 2023 0:15:00 GMT -5
Is anyone else having trouble reading this? I'm assuming blue is below average but I have a hard time believing a 106 EV would be below average for the complex leagues. And if it's relative to MLB players, what's the point of that? 106 was his Max EV, apparently, so the hardest ball he hit all year. Seems kind of low although it's hard to say at that level.
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jan 8, 2023 1:59:18 GMT -5
Is anyone else having trouble reading this? I'm assuming blue is below average but I have a hard time believing a 106 EV would be below average for the complex leagues. And if it's relative to MLB players, what's the point of that? 106 was his Max EV, apparently, so the hardest ball he hit all year. Seems kind of low although it's hard to say at that level. Yes I should've been more clear in my response, 106.5 seems very high for a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds playing in the complex leagues.
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Post by seamus on Jan 9, 2023 12:22:43 GMT -5
I believe a 106.5 would have put him right near the top of the 2022 prep draft class in terms of raw power, and the only ones I could find who recorded higher EVs (Jared Jones and Jayson Jones) were "old" 18's at the draft. Only a handful of guys this young can hit the ball that hard. Bleis is crazy.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 9, 2023 12:49:22 GMT -5
SteveofBradenton and I have been so fortunate to see players in the GCL and Complex for a good number of years. Bleis and Rafaela are 2 that have stood out markedly at the plate and in the field more recently. Don't sleep on Matthew Lugo either.
We have mentioned previously that Bleis just has 'the look'.. When he runs or even saunters he is so graceful...like a young thoroughbred that instinctively knows he is a cut above..
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jan 9, 2023 12:59:25 GMT -5
According to Tom Verducci of SI.com, the average exit velocity of a MLB homer from 2015-19 was about 103 mph and the balls traveled about 400' on average. So, for Bleis to already be capable of a 106.5 batted ball (albeit his current high-water mark) as an 18-yo is impressive. Hard to explain why it shows up as light blue in that table. Maybe those data are for all minor leaguers, including fully grown men in AAA? At first look, I was comparing his numbers in my head to exit velocities in the hundred-teens reported for Sox players but that's not really a fair comparison for a kid his age (and of course, the ones reported during games are usually the outliers).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 9, 2023 14:37:11 GMT -5
It's possible. Bleis' exit velo numbers for a rookie ball guy are nuts, but there is definite correlation between age and EV.
Looking at percentage of batted balls with Exit Velo 95 mph+ last year, min. 100 PA: 1. Rob Refsnyder, WOR, 48.0% 2. Triston Casas, WOR, 47.3% 3. Jarren Duran, WOR, 46.1% 4. Niko Kavadas, GRE, 44.9% 5. Franchy Cordero, WOR, 44.8% 6. Christin Stewart, WOR, 42.6% 7. Enmanuel Valdez, WOR, 41.7% 8. Niko Kavadas, SAL, 40.7% 9. Jaylin Davis, WOR, 40.6% 10. Miguel Bleis, FCL, 40.0%
That's everyone at 40% or above. The next highest FCL guy with 100+ PA was Luis Ravelo at 20.5%. (Although it's worth noting there were only 8 such players. Romero, Anthony, and Brannon were also above 30% but in sample sizes of 43, 40, and 15 PA, respectively.)
I also note that his in-zone whiff rate of 13% was the best among any hitter whose percentage was 20% or higher. The one thing he was worse than most of these players on was his success rate against offspeed and spin, but given his age, that's reasonable when comparing him to guys with 6 years on him.
TL;DR, when Bleis swings and it's in the zone he hits it. Hard.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 10, 2023 3:21:40 GMT -5
It's possible. Bleis' exit velo numbers for a rookie ball guy are nuts, but there is definite correlation between age and EV. Looking at percentage of batted balls with Exit Velo 95 mph+ last year, min. 100 PA: 1. Rob Refsnyder, WOR, 48.0% 2. Triston Casas, WOR, 47.3% 3. Jarren Duran, WOR, 46.1% 4. Niko Kavadas, GRE, 44.9% 5. Franchy Cordero, WOR, 44.8% 6. Christin Stewart, WOR, 42.6% 7. Enmanuel Valdez, WOR, 41.7% 8. Niko Kavadas, SAL, 40.7% 9. Jaylin Davis, WOR, 40.6% 10. Miguel Bleis, FCL, 40.0% That's everyone at 40% or above. The next highest FCL guy with 100+ PA was Luis Ravelo at 20.5%. (Although it's worth noting there were only 8 such players. Romero, Anthony, and Brannon were also above 30% but in sample sizes of 43, 40, and 15 PA, respectively.) I also note that his in-zone whiff rate of 13% was the best among any hitter whose percentage was 20% or higher. The one thing he was worse than most of these players on was his success rate against offspeed and spin, but given his age, that's reasonable when comparing him to guys with 6 years on him. TL;DR, when Bleis swings and it's in the zone he hits it. Hard. Out of curiosity, where did Kavadas come in at Portland. I see him there for his other two 2022 stops, but obviously Portland was his toughest challenge. Also I think he ended up with precisely 100 Portland PAs.
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