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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2022 12:08:39 GMT -5
Presumably okay news if it's lat tightness. Could be worse anyway. If that's what it is I most certainly rushed to my initial assessment to cut bait.
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2022 12:09:11 GMT -5
I can live with lat tightness
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 18, 2022 12:13:32 GMT -5
Lat tightness is a nice diagnosis to keep us having no idea if it's a big deal or not a big deal Apparently, Paxton's Lat is so messed up it is now located on his left forearm where he was reportedly pointing as he exited the field.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2022 12:14:33 GMT -5
Cristian Nunez: 5IP, 0H, 0ER, 3BB, 2K
On the season: 31.1IP, 18H, 4ER, 11BB, 31K
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2022 12:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 18, 2022 12:15:43 GMT -5
Lat tightness is a nice diagnosis to keep us having no idea if it's a big deal or not a big deal Apparently, Paxton's Lat is so messed up it is now located on his left forearm where he was reportedly pointing as he exited the field. Did anyone report that aside from "Inside Injuries"? I've never heard of that account before
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Post by cdj on Aug 18, 2022 12:15:46 GMT -5
PERALES FULL SZN BALL SZN
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2022 12:17:51 GMT -5
A quick Google search shows Lat muscle injuries can take 2-3 months for MLB pitchers to heal from depending on severity obviously. For context a Lat strain is what Severino was diagnosed with back in mid July and I don't think he's due back particularly soon.
I guess my question would become if it is a mild lat strain and Paxton doesn't pitch again this season, when do they need to accept or decline that option? I'm guessing it is shortly after the world series as to my knowledge that usually is the case. I suppose if they can see him come back and pitch some bullpens or something they may still be inclined to accept the option. Long way to go though before any decision needs to be made either way but certainly a disappointing turn of events for Paxton.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 18, 2022 12:19:53 GMT -5
Apparently, Paxton's Lat is so messed up it is now located on his left forearm where he was reportedly pointing as he exited the field. Did anyone report that aside from "Inside Injuries"? I've never heard of that account before Looks like thats where I saw it. Not sure if anyone else has confirmed it
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 18, 2022 12:21:51 GMT -5
- They still haven't fixed having Isaac Coffey at SS or Miguel Bleis entering as a DR at 1B in recent box scores, which is kind of killing me. I am told by someone who was there and would know the players that Bleis did in fact come into that game. He doesn't really believe it either, but he saw it. FWIW, I just confirmed it wasn't him.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 18, 2022 12:24:03 GMT -5
A quick Google search shows Lat muscle injuries can take 2-3 months for MLB pitchers to heal from depending on severity obviously. For context a Lat strain is what Severino was diagnosed with back in mid July and I don't think he's due back particularly soon. I guess my question would become if it is a mild lat strain and Paxton doesn't pitch again this season, when do they need to accept or decline that option? I'm guessing it is shortly after the world series as to my knowledge that usually is the case. I suppose if they can see him come back and pitch some bullpens or something they may still be inclined to accept the option. Long way to go though before any decision needs to be made either way but certainly a disappointing turn of events for Paxton. I just don't see any scenario where he pitches 0 major league innings and then they pick up the option, because I don't see any scenario where he'd get that much money as a free agent.
What might happen, I suppose, is that they could decline the option, then he could decline the $4 million player option, then they sign him back for another convoluted deal that would pay him somewhere between $4 million and $13 million.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 18, 2022 12:27:55 GMT -5
Apparently, Paxton's Lat is so messed up it is now located on his left forearm where he was reportedly pointing as he exited the field. Did anyone report that aside from "Inside Injuries"? I've never heard of that account before I'm presuming that "Inside Injuries" account got it from this guy and just didn't credit it:
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 18, 2022 12:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 18, 2022 12:43:59 GMT -5
A quick Google search shows Lat muscle injuries can take 2-3 months for MLB pitchers to heal from depending on severity obviously. For context a Lat strain is what Severino was diagnosed with back in mid July and I don't think he's due back particularly soon. I guess my question would become if it is a mild lat strain and Paxton doesn't pitch again this season, when do they need to accept or decline that option? I'm guessing it is shortly after the world series as to my knowledge that usually is the case. I suppose if they can see him come back and pitch some bullpens or something they may still be inclined to accept the option. Long way to go though before any decision needs to be made either way but certainly a disappointing turn of events for Paxton. I just don't see any scenario where he pitches 0 major league innings and then they pick up the option, because I don't see any scenario where he'd get that much money as a free agent.
What might happen, I suppose, is that they could decline the option, then he could decline the $4 million player option, then they sign him back for another convoluted deal that would pay him somewhere between $4 million and $13 million.
I don't think getting into major league games is important. If the Red Sox think he'll be ready to take regular turns in the rotation in April with his stuff intact, they'll pick up the option because it'll look like a very nice deal. The Red Sox have been watching him very closely, I'm happy to defer to their judgement.
If Paxton is in good health, he should be able to convince other teams that he's worth a lot of money.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2022 12:49:30 GMT -5
I just don't see any scenario where he pitches 0 major league innings and then they pick up the option, because I don't see any scenario where he'd get that much money as a free agent.
What might happen, I suppose, is that they could decline the option, then he could decline the $4 million player option, then they sign him back for another convoluted deal that would pay him somewhere between $4 million and $13 million.
I don't think getting into major league games is important. If the Red Sox think he'll be ready to take regular turns in the rotation in April with his stuff intact, they'll pick up the option because it'll look like a very nice deal. The Red Sox have been watching him very closely, I'm happy to defer to their judgement.
If Paxton is in good health, he should be able to convince other teams that he's worth a lot of money without much trouble.
I agree with this, I don't think the Sox are looking at it saying he has to pitch in the majors this year. I have the same thought as you, if he's able to get through this season with a mostly clean bill of health and they think he'll be ready to go for spring training they would pick up the option. This turn of events today makes it murkier obviously but the Red Sox will have a good idea on his medicals before they make the choice on the option. To your second point it depends on what you mean by "good health" I don't know that he's going to convince teams he's worth " a lot of money" which once again I guess it depends on what you mean by a lot of money. I would think if he's on the FA market and believes he will be ready to go next year he'd perhaps look for more of a one year deal for a decent base pay with somewhat easily attainable incentives should he stay healthy which would make sense for both player and theoretical team. But like I said if today ends up being something minor and he believes he will be ready for next year and the Red Sox concur I think they pick the option up.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2022 13:52:45 GMT -5
3-5 w/ a 3B and HR for Andy Lugo. He's been very good for DSL Blue this year as an 18 year old.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2022 13:58:29 GMT -5
Another multi-hit game for Roman Anthony.
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Post by seamus on Aug 18, 2022 14:24:46 GMT -5
Have we settled on a corny Roman mythology nickname for Anthony yet?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 18, 2022 14:26:24 GMT -5
Needs to get healthy first. Once he's playing again and gets a couple games in, I think he goes up.
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Post by nomar on Aug 18, 2022 14:28:04 GMT -5
Have we settled on a corny Roman mythology nickname for Anthony yet? Right now he’s Jupiter because he’s playing in Florida
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Post by ramireja on Aug 18, 2022 14:34:38 GMT -5
Have we settled on a corny Roman mythology nickname for Anthony yet? Right now he’s Jupiter because he’s playing in Florida Thats fair. If he ends up being a stud major leaguer, he should probably be nicknamed Mars, the Roman god of WAR. I don't care if you're using fWAR or bWAR either.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 18, 2022 14:39:33 GMT -5
Cutter Coffey 0-17 with 8 K's now
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 18, 2022 14:49:03 GMT -5
Have we settled on a corny Roman mythology nickname for Anthony yet? Roman Emperor!
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Post by shagworthy on Aug 18, 2022 14:51:37 GMT -5
Right now he’s Jupiter because he’s playing in Florida Thats fair. If he ends up being a stud major leaguer, he should probably be nicknamed Mars, the Roman god of WAR. I don't care if you're using fWAR or bWAR either. I vote for Sphera Decimus.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2022 15:09:37 GMT -5
Playoff scenarios for the complex teams: FCL: 5 games left. Down by 2 games to the Rays for the FCL South Division title. Up on the Mets by 3 games and Pirates by 4.5 games for the Wild Card. DSL Blue: clinched the DSL North Division title on Monday. DSL Red: 6 games left. Seven teams ahead of them for the two wild card spots. Two games back from the Phillies Red for the second wild card spot. With 4 games left, the FCL Red Sox are down by 3 games to the Rays for the FCL South Division title. Up on the Mets/Nats by 2 games and Pirates by 3.5 games for the Wild Card. Despite the 2 game sweep today, the DSL Red team's playoff hopes are not looking great. Down by 2.5 games for the second WC spot, but almost every team ahead of them won (Padres, Rockies, Braves, Dodgers Blue all won today). They have 4 games left to play.
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