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10/3-10/5 Red Sox vs. Rays Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 30, 2022 8:05:46 GMT -5
10/3 Red Sox (LHP Rich Hill, 8-7, 4.41, 118.1 IP, 103K:36BB) vs. Rays (RHP Tyler Glasnow, 0-0, 3.00, 3.0 IP, 3K:1BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 10/4 Red Sox (RHP Nathan Eovaldi, 5-3, 4.05, 104.1 IP, 99K:18BB) vs. Rays (LHP Jeffrey Springs, 9-4, 2.45, 132.1 IP, 141K:30BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 10/5 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 10-12, 4.56, 175.2 IP, 170K:70BB) vs. Rays (RHP Drew Rasmussen, 11-7, 2.84, 146.0 IP, 125K:31BB) 4:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2022: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by cdj on Oct 2, 2022 21:40:36 GMT -5
Rich Hill giving us 120 innings of meh ball was honestly very worthwhile for the price tag
May not have been pretty and we can’t trust him in games against good teams but he was still reasonably effective, a legitimate big league arm
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 2, 2022 21:42:31 GMT -5
Rich Hill giving us 120 innings of meh ball was honestly very worthwhile for the price tag May not have been pretty and we can’t trust him in games against good teams but he was still reasonably effective, a legitimate big league arm Let's do it again
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 3, 2022 9:14:39 GMT -5
Doubt Hill doesn't get a job before spring, but I'd let him know he's the first guy I've got on speed dial if injuries should strike early in the season.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 3, 2022 10:14:31 GMT -5
Going into the last series, interesting to compare some key players, last year to this year
Bobby Dalbec - .240-25-78 to .212-12-39 Xander - .295-23-79 to .305-14-69 Raffi - .279-38-115 to .293-27-87 Doogie - .289-13-63 to .283-11-74 Kiké - .250-20-60 to .222-6-44 JD - .286-28-99 to .273-14-58
Nate - 11-9 3.75 to 5-3 4.05 Nick - 9-8 4.53 to 10-12 4.56
Things that stand out - the power outage this year (though they hit boatloads of doubles), huge drop offs of JD and Kiké (injury riddled in his case), and that with Doogie and Pivetta, what we see is what we get (small sample of two seasons, of course). With Nate it was injuries as well
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Post by incandenza on Oct 3, 2022 10:40:42 GMT -5
Pretty important series. If the Red Sox sweep they guarantee the Rays get the 3rd wild card, which would mean that if they get past Cleveland they'd face the Yankees in the second round. I would MUCH rather have the Yankees needing to beat Tampa Bay than Seattle.
If Tampa Bay gets the 2nd wild card, on the other hand, then they go to Toronto in the first round. Relatedly, I would not be surprised to see, uh, less than an optimal performance by the Rays in this series.
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 12:07:47 GMT -5
Pretty important series. If the Red Sox sweep they guarantee the Rays get the 3rd wild card, which would mean that if they get past Cleveland they'd face the Yankees in the second round. I would MUCH rather have the Yankees needing to beat Tampa Bay than Seattle. If Tampa Bay gets the 2nd wild card, on the other hand, then they go to Toronto in the first round. Relatedly, I would not be surprised to see, uh, less than an optimal performance by the Rays in this series. Red Sox get swept, they could find a way to get to the 12th pick if Chicago, LA Angels, or Arizona sweep the last three games with wins. The Twins could also get the 13th pick if the Sox win three and the Twins lose all three games. Magic number to secure 13th pick is 2. Same goes the opposite way. 12th pick magic number is 2. The 13th pick looks pretty locked up.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 3, 2022 12:17:59 GMT -5
Pretty important series. If the Red Sox sweep they guarantee the Rays get the 3rd wild card, which would mean that if they get past Cleveland they'd face the Yankees in the second round. I would MUCH rather have the Yankees needing to beat Tampa Bay than Seattle. If Tampa Bay gets the 2nd wild card, on the other hand, then they go to Toronto in the first round. Relatedly, I would not be surprised to see, uh, less than an optimal performance by the Rays in this series. Red Sox get swept, they could find a way to get to the 12th pick if Chicago, LA Angels, or Arizona sweep the last three games with wins. The Twins could also get the 13th pick if the Sox win three and the Twins lose all three games. Magic number to secure 13th pick is 2. Same goes the opposite way. 12th pick magic number is 2. The 13th pick looks pretty locked up. We lose the tiebreak vs all the relevant teams. Twins need to make up 2 games to pass us, and we need to make up 3 to pass the other teams
So, Twins can afford one win or Sox loss and still pass us
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 12:29:44 GMT -5
Red Sox get swept, they could find a way to get to the 12th pick if Chicago, LA Angels, or Arizona sweep the last three games with wins. The Twins could also get the 13th pick if the Sox win three and the Twins lose all three games. Magic number to secure 13th pick is 2. Same goes the opposite way. 12th pick magic number is 2. The 13th pick looks pretty locked up. We lose the tiebreak vs all the relevant teams. Twins need to make up 2 games to pass us, and we need to make up 3 to pass the other teams
So, Twins can afford one win or Sox loss and still pass us
Sox need to continue their suck for 2 more games and lock things up. Twins will most likely win a game. Too bad Seabold isn't starting one of these games. He's clutch in these situations lol.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 3, 2022 14:30:13 GMT -5
Rich Hill giving us 120 innings of meh ball was honestly very worthwhile for the price tag May not have been pretty and we can’t trust him in games against good teams but he was still reasonably effective, a legitimate big league arm Let's do it again He could easily be a 6th starter/long relief/lefty in the pen and be worth signing.
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Post by taiwansox on Oct 3, 2022 15:16:52 GMT -5
We lose the tiebreak vs all the relevant teams. Twins need to make up 2 games to pass us, and we need to make up 3 to pass the other teams
So, Twins can afford one win or Sox loss and still pass us
Sox need to continue their suck for 2 more games and lock things up. Twins will most likely win a game. Too bad Seabold isn't starting one of these games. He's clutch in these situations lol. I have good news for you, Darwinzon was just recalled! He’s actually better than Seabold because he could conceivably blow multiple games. (Ideally our starters and hitters do well and Darwinzon just blows it so we get the needed losses)
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Oct 3, 2022 17:27:08 GMT -5
TB really did win the season series vs SEA, 5-2
So the magic number, tragic number, is 3
Seattle plays a doubleheader with Detroit on Tues
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Post by TearsIn04 on Oct 3, 2022 19:13:41 GMT -5
Fenway really is a different park in April and September, as the Dugie ball just showed.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 3, 2022 19:47:24 GMT -5
So Xander's heading into free agency with a slump and a stretch of days off... one last nagging injury for the road?
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 19:48:07 GMT -5
Offense is coming up clutch in securing pick number 13, maybe keeping pick 12 dreams alive!
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Post by incandenza on Oct 3, 2022 19:57:38 GMT -5
Offense is coming up clutch in securing pick number 13, maybe keeping pick 12 dreams alive! I think the Rays are probably more determined to get that third wild card than the Red Sox are to get the 12th pick. That would explain that inning's bullpen management at least...
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Post by benzinger on Oct 3, 2022 20:04:24 GMT -5
Going into the last series, interesting to compare some key players, last year to this year Bobby Dalbec - .240-25-78 to .212-12-39 Xander - .295-23-79 to .305-14-69 Raffi - .279-38-115 to .293-27-87 Doogie - .289-13-63 to .283-11-74 Kiké - .250-20-60 to .222-6-44 JD - .286-28-99 to .273-14-58 Nate - 11-9 3.75 to 5-3 4.05 Nick - 9-8 4.53 to 10-12 4.56 Things that stand out - the power outage this year (though they hit boatloads of doubles), huge drop offs of JD and Kiké (injury riddled in his case), and that with Doogie and Pivetta, what we see is what we get (small sample of two seasons, of course). With Nate it was injuries as well Did anyone on the roster exceed expectations this season? It’s as if the whole team took a collective step back. And the power outage is definitely the huge story here. Schwarber has 45 HR’s this season. Renfroe has 28(despite 2 stints on the DL). The Sox could have used those contributions.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 3, 2022 20:08:34 GMT -5
Going into the last series, interesting to compare some key players, last year to this year Bobby Dalbec - .240-25-78 to .212-12-39 Xander - .295-23-79 to .305-14-69 Raffi - .279-38-115 to .293-27-87 Doogie - .289-13-63 to .283-11-74 Kiké - .250-20-60 to .222-6-44 JD - .286-28-99 to .273-14-58 Nate - 11-9 3.75 to 5-3 4.05 Nick - 9-8 4.53 to 10-12 4.56 Things that stand out - the power outage this year (though they hit boatloads of doubles), huge drop offs of JD and Kiké (injury riddled in his case), and that with Doogie and Pivetta, what we see is what we get (small sample of two seasons, of course). With Nate it was injuries as well Did anyone on the roster exceed expectations this season? It’s as if the whole team took a collective step back. And the power outage is definitely the huge story here. Schwarber has 45 HR’s this season. Renfroe has 28(despite 2 stints on the DL). The Sox could have used those contributions. My view of those exceeding expectations are Wacha Schreiber Arroyo McGuire short list for sure
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 20:14:30 GMT -5
Offense is coming up clutch in securing pick number 13, maybe keeping pick 12 dreams alive! I think the Rays are probably more determined to get that third wild card than the Red Sox are to get the 12th pick. That would explain that inning's bullpen management at least... I'll take it. Hopefully Wander goes for the cycle tonight.
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Post by cdj on Oct 3, 2022 20:16:12 GMT -5
Good outing from Hill
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 20:16:14 GMT -5
And the Sox are winning. Can the Sox do anything right this year?
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 20:26:53 GMT -5
Update on pick standings, Chicago lost. So highest pick the Sox can get outside of the lottery is number 11.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 3, 2022 20:30:41 GMT -5
Update on pick standings, Chicago lost. So highest pick the Sox can get outside of the lottery is number 11. I appreciate that this is really all there is left to root for and don't begrudge you or anything, but I have to say it is a little beyond me to actually care whether it's the 12th or the 13th overall pick that the Red Sox end up with.
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Post by xdmo on Oct 3, 2022 20:32:39 GMT -5
Update on pick standings, Chicago lost. So highest pick the Sox can get outside of the lottery is number 11. I appreciate that this is really all there is left to root for and don't begrudge you or anything, but I have to say it is a little beyond me to actually care whether it's the 12th or the 13th overall pick that the Red Sox end up with. It's the only thing left interesting or relevant, maybe it's just me. Draft pool money matters, or yeah I wouldn't care at all.
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Post by dirtdog on Oct 3, 2022 20:33:38 GMT -5
Raffy making a push for 300 since 100 RBIs aint happening.
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