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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 9:33:31 GMT -5
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Post by shagworthy on Feb 16, 2023 9:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Feb 16, 2023 9:45:39 GMT -5
A little surprised he gets a major league contract. I feel like we have better options on NRI
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 16, 2023 9:56:28 GMT -5
A little surprised he gets a major league contract. I feel like we have better options on NRI Same, I'm a little surprised it's a major league contract but they clearly wanted another SS capable player and they seem to like Chang. Unless I'm missing someone the only NRI they have coming in who can play SS is Goodrum so it does make some sense. I'm assuming it's for the ML min or there about anyway, should leave them enough room under the luxury tax to potentially add some salary come deadline should they be in the race still. From that angle it makes sense why they weren't interested in Andrus or Iglesias who by the sound of it would cost several million more and leave them razor thin in terms of room under luxury tax. Also I'm not entirely convinced they'd get that much more out of Andrus or Iglesias than they would from Chang. It still leaves MI pretty underwhelming until Story can hopefully come back and claim SS at some point this year though. |
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Post by taiwansox on Feb 16, 2023 9:58:57 GMT -5
I guess they just did this so we could have a Taiwanese player  But yeah it seems this move is geared towards preserving cap space for a mid season trade if needed, definitely under the cap this year. This also makes sense give the inherent volatility of this roster setup, there are so many directions this can go, cap flexibility is going to be more valuable than usual |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 10:02:43 GMT -5
Chang in terms of position/innings played/defensive runs saved in his career:
1B: 393.1 (+1 DRS)
2B: 310.1 (+2 DRS)
SS: 180.0 (-1 DRS)
3B: 331.0 (+3 DRS)
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 16, 2023 10:10:20 GMT -5
Why the need for a major league contract? Not that it guarantees that he's on the 26-man roster just seems curious
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Post by nomar on Feb 16, 2023 10:12:33 GMT -5
I guess they just did this so we could have a Taiwanese player But yeah it seems this move is geared towards preserving cap space for a mid season trade if needed, definitely under the cap this year. This also makes sense give the inherent volatility of this roster setup, there are so many directions this can go, cap flexibility is going to be more valuable than usual Chang had essentially the same xwOBA as Andrus last year and his K:BB in the second half was actually pretty strong. He’s always had some pop too. I’m fine with this vs Iggy/Andrus especially if it helps Bloom wiggle a bit at the deadline. |
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Feb 16, 2023 10:27:42 GMT -5
Chang is a good short term fit. Sox must feel Mondesi will be available not to deep in to he regular season if this is the course of action. Good news !
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Post by scottysmalls on Feb 16, 2023 10:28:54 GMT -5
Makes sense, they may only have this roster slot for a short time if Mondesi is ready quickly. Cutting Chang if needed won’t hurt much $ wise and they may even be able to sneak him through to AAA on a DFA later on which would be nice for depth.
Has positive OAA at every infield position and once was thought to have a promising bat (and he’s only 27). In the very unlikely scenario he does stick they have arb control for another couple seasons.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 16, 2023 10:52:51 GMT -5
He got a major league deal because he's making the opening day roster. It's prob for about the minimum so he can get DFA'ed fairly pain free. It's probably not really a better deal than what Tapia got.
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Post by seamus on Feb 16, 2023 11:09:23 GMT -5
Makes a lot of sense. If Mondesi is available quickly, you've got a solid, cheap depth piece and another guy to try if, say, Arroyo struggles or gets dinged up. It also gives more flexibility for Hernandez to go back to the outfield if one of the starters goes down.
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Post by soxfan06 on Feb 16, 2023 11:19:00 GMT -5
A little surprised he gets a major league contract. I feel like we have better options on NRI Yeah and if they out play him in Spring Training, nothing about this contract or signing will stop the Red Sox from keeping the NRI. He will just be DFA'd and released. |
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Post by cdj on Feb 16, 2023 11:33:27 GMT -5
I guess they just did this so we could have a Taiwanese player But yeah it seems this move is geared towards preserving cap space for a mid season trade if needed, definitely under the cap this year. This also makes sense give the inherent volatility of this roster setup, there are so many directions this can go, cap flexibility is going to be more valuable than usual Chang had essentially the same xwOBA as Andrus last year and his K:BB in the second half was actually pretty strong. He’s always had some pop too. I’m fine with this vs Iggy/Andrus especially if it helps Bloom wiggle a bit at the deadline. To your point: 1st half: 79 PA .181/.253/.264 with 4 BB and 35 K’s (44% k rate) 2nd half: 111 PA .229/.315/.354 with 12 BB and 24 K’s (21% k rate). Combine this line with good defense and he’s a useful player. |
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Feb 16, 2023 11:55:30 GMT -5
He's young cheap and versatile. As to the above point, they might have seen something they really like, perhaps an easy fix in his swing or with coaching up, maybe they think he's got more potential. Its a good low cost, low risk signing. He'll be making like $865,000, which if he's only around a month and he's DFA'd and another team picks him up they'd pay the majority of, if not, he can go to Worcester and becomes solid depth.
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Post by chr31ter on Feb 16, 2023 11:57:52 GMT -5
...and some people around here thought Chaim Bloom wasn't going to re-sign the guy who ended the 2022 season playing shortstop for the Red Sox.
Never in doubt.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Feb 16, 2023 12:35:47 GMT -5
A little surprised he gets a major league contract. I feel like we have better options on NRI Chang was signed to be the middle infield bench player until Adalberto Mondesí returns from the injured list. The $850,000 is little more than the MLB minimum, so when Mondesi returns Chang can be DFA with Chang’s next team paying nearly all of remaining salary. Chang is an experienced SS, which is more than can be said for all AAA current 40-man options.Chang gives the Red Sox three viable options at SS being Hernandez, Mondesi (IL), and Chang (in that order). Chang will only remain until a healthy alternative arrives. The non-tender was a good move as the Red Sox did not need to use a 40-man spot over the winter which would have caused them to DFA someone else they value more for the long term, and Chang was most likely going to be available as the DFAs from last year demonstrated. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 16, 2023 12:55:45 GMT -5
I think Chang survives Mondesi's return. I don't know if you bother signing Chang to this deal planning to keep him for only 3 or 4 weeks. I would guess Duran is the 5th OF and gets optioned for Mondesi, with Kiké then taking more time in the OF. There's a good chance someone else is hurt by then too.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 16, 2023 13:19:07 GMT -5
I think Chang survives Mondesi's return. I don't know if you bother signing Chang to this deal planning to keep him for only 3 or 4 weeks. I would guess Duran is the 5th OF and gets optioned for Mondesi, with Kiké then taking more time in the OF. There's a good chance someone else is hurt by then too. I think this is pretty spot on, I don't know why you'd sign someone to a ML deal if the plan is to DFA him in 3-4 weeks. They probably could have gotten by with who they have if they were of the mindset that MI is all set once Mondesi is back. He's another option with solid versatility and sure in a perfect scenario where nobody gets hurt they may decide to DFA him but Arroyo and Mondesi aren't exactly the epitome of health and Hernandez has had his issues too. I think Chang lasts at least until Story is back if not the full season because as you point out chances are someone will be hurt and they don't currently have much MI depth. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 16, 2023 14:40:11 GMT -5
One other thing to keep in mind is that Chang only has 3 years of service time, so if he exceeds expectations they get to win big and keep him around for two more cheap years.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 16, 2023 16:18:52 GMT -5
I took it off when they DFA'ed Hosmer. I'm ignoring the trades that don't have any impact. If one of the prospects does something in the majors I'll add it back.
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Post by thelpc on Feb 16, 2023 16:25:37 GMT -5
Chang being able to play 1B seems like a nice bonus too considering the depth behind Casas/Turner currently is Bobby Dalbec followed by a massive black hole
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Feb 16, 2023 16:53:39 GMT -5
I think Chang survives Mondesi's return. I don't know if you bother signing Chang to this deal planning to keep him for only 3 or 4 weeks. I would guess Duran is the 5th OF and gets optioned for Mondesi, with Kiké then taking more time in the OF. There's a good chance someone else is hurt by then too. When will Mondesi be healthy and for how long….how long before Arroyo gets hurt…. IMO, Chang will be on the team until/if he is replaced by an acquisition not currently on the team or a high flying AAA legitimate prospect… which means he could be on the Red Sox a significant amount of time (more than three or four weeks). |
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Post by jimoh on Feb 16, 2023 21:26:41 GMT -5
Chang being able to play 1B seems like a nice bonus too considering the depth behind Casas/Turner currently is Bobby Dalbec followed by a massive black hole Yes, it's easy to think of Turner as the backup to Casas but during a game if he has to come in your lose the DH. Chang could pinch run and then play a capable 1b. |
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Post by nomar on Feb 17, 2023 10:14:30 GMT -5
This signing is a real game Chang-er
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