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5/22-5/24 Red Sox @ Angels Series Thread
cdj
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Post by cdj on May 25, 2023 11:16:19 GMT -5
83% called strike seems… not so good. Ramon DeJesus posted a 60% game recently, YIKES
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Post by grandsalami on May 25, 2023 11:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 25, 2023 11:29:48 GMT -5
I figured they'd be a .500 team, but seeing what I see now, I'll be disappointed if they cant snag a wild card spot.
There are three wild card spots, which is a helluva lot. It used to be much, much harder to make the postseason. Now 6 out of 15 teams make it, so if the Sox, with this team, cant make the top 60% I will be disappointed, especially if Sale and Paxton by some miracle remain healthy.
I think the team is better than I anticipated. If they stay reasonably healthy and get Duvall and Story back healthy, the lineup should be well balanced with a solid functional bench.
I know Paxton wasn't good yesterday but I can see that he still has the ability. Whatever athletic delivery adjustment they did to Sale suddenly seemed to rejuvenate him. Bello is developing. The rotation finally has something to build on, but this is the one house of cards that could collapse and torpedo the season, if Sale and/or Paxton get hurt, which is a real possibilty.
The pen is in a bit of disarray because Kenley is suddenly a mess. If he gets it back, the pen should fall back into order.
The ingredients are there, and if they stay reasonably healthy, particularly in the pen, it'll be disappointing if they cant figure out a way to snag 1 of 3 wild card spots.
As far as next year goes, it's too early to project but it would be tough to rely on Sale so heavily and its not like they have a bunch of great arns coming up and I dont see the Sox bringing in anything in free agency beyond retread arms and projects, so I don't think its guaranteed that they have a linear progression where it's fine to say they won 85 games and missed the playoffs but no big deal, they'll win 90 the following year. I think if they stay healthy, this team needs to make the postseason and anything less will be a disappointment. Unless they start playing better they won't.
I know they'll play better but will they sustain it?
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 25, 2023 12:33:14 GMT -5
glad to hear that Kluber is going to the pen..although i hope only in garbage time because he can't be trusted in high leverage spots. We have been swept in 4 series and we can point to Kluber that made it happen. Very surprised to see how bad he lost it this year. Hope he can work things out in the pen.
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Post by greenmonster on May 25, 2023 12:49:12 GMT -5
I'll stick to what I said a while ago: if they get to the end of the Arizona series a game or two above .500 they'll be in good shape. That'll end the unmitigated stretch of 47 games against non-bad teams. They've been tied for the toughest schedule in the game (with TOR, and NYY is just behind them, but BAL and TB are down at 15th and 17th). But after Arizona, 25 of their next 68 games are against bad teams (=KC, DET, CHW, OAK, WAS, CIN, COL). With the starting rotation looking solid and maybe some injured guys returning they should only get better. The bats certainly aren't going to stay *this* dead. Not sure exactly what you are suggesting.... The Sox are currently 26-24 as they head to Arizona for the three game series with the Diamondbacks that you referenced. If they get swept they would be 26-27....if they win one game they will be 27-26. Are you suggesting that everything hinges on this weekend's series, or that they are fine either way??
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 25, 2023 14:48:14 GMT -5
I figured they'd be a .500 team, but seeing what I see now, I'll be disappointed if they cant snag a wild card spot. There are three wild card spots, which is a helluva lot. It used to be much, much harder to make the postseason. Now 6 out of 15 teams make it, so if the Sox, with this team, cant make the top 60% I will be disappointed, especially if Sale and Paxton by some miracle remain healthy. quote] You could have the 5th best record and miss the playoffs. Unlikely. But, Wildcard 3 could be better than Central winner. I had the under to start the season. So, I’m pleasantly surprised by our record. Duran and Wong came out of nowhere. Hope they keep it up. Expecting more from Casas in 2nd half. I doubt if Sale and Paxton stay healthy. Hope Kenley straightens out and we get a good prospect at deadline. Wish MLB allowed you to trade for draft picks.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 25, 2023 15:01:47 GMT -5
You got to know when to hold em' Know when to cut 'em know when to take a walk and know when to run
You never count your winnin' when your playing games in season there'll be time enough for counting when the season's done.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 25, 2023 17:11:32 GMT -5
I figured they'd be a .500 team, but seeing what I see now, I'll be disappointed if they cant snag a wild card spot. There are three wild card spots, which is a helluva lot. It used to be much, much harder to make the postseason. Now 6 out of 15 teams make it, so if the Sox, with this team, cant make the top 60% I will be disappointed, especially if Sale and Paxton by some miracle remain healthy. quote] You could have the 5th best record and miss the playoffs. Unlikely. But, Wildcard 3 could be better than Central winner. I had the under to start the season. So, I’m pleasantly surprised by our record. Duran and Wong came out of nowhere. Hope they keep it up. Expecting more from Casas in 2nd half. I doubt if Sale and Paxton stay healthy. Hope Kenley straightens out and we get a good prospect at deadline. Wish MLB allowed you to trade for draft picks. I know all divisions aren't created equal, but with all those wild cards available, I dont feel that sorry for a team that gets squeezed out by a weak division winner.
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Post by incandenza on May 25, 2023 18:09:38 GMT -5
I'll stick to what I said a while ago: if they get to the end of the Arizona series a game or two above .500 they'll be in good shape. That'll end the unmitigated stretch of 47 games against non-bad teams. They've been tied for the toughest schedule in the game (with TOR, and NYY is just behind them, but BAL and TB are down at 15th and 17th). But after Arizona, 25 of their next 68 games are against bad teams (=KC, DET, CHW, OAK, WAS, CIN, COL). With the starting rotation looking solid and maybe some injured guys returning they should only get better. The bats certainly aren't going to stay *this* dead. Not sure exactly what you are suggesting.... The Sox are currently 26-24 as they head to Arizona for the three game series with the Diamondbacks that you referenced. If they get swept they would be 26-27....if they win one game they will be 27-26. Are you suggesting that everything hinges on this weekend's series, or that they are fine either way?? I don't really think this point is especially ambiguous, but no, I'm not saying everything hinges on a single game in Arizona. I'm saying that this is roughly where I'd place the bar for their being on track to have a good chance at making the playoffs. It's just a rough-and-ready heuristic for being in "good shape" a third of the way through the season. It's not the difference between "good team" and "bad team"; it's the difference between, I don't know, "slightly more likely than not to make the playoffs" and "slightly less likely than not to make the playoffs."
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Post by yuchangclan on May 25, 2023 18:34:14 GMT -5
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