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5/22-5/24 Red Sox @ Angels Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 21, 2023 17:15:22 GMT -5
5/22 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 3-3, 5.48, 42.2 IP, 38K:15BB) @ Angels (RHP Jaime Barria, 1-1, 1.96, 23.0 IP, 21K:6BB) 9:38 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/23 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 3-1, 4.45, 28.1 IP, 31K:12BB) @ Angels (RHP Griffin Canning, 2-2, 6.14, 29.1 IP, 25K:11BB) 9:38 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/24 Red Sox (TBD) @ Angels (LHP Tyler Anderson, 1-0, 5.27, 42.2 IP, 27K:21BB) 9:38 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2023: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 22, 2023 8:34:44 GMT -5
Interesting that Wednesday's Sox starter remains T.B.D. Perhaps there is concern about Paxton going on 4 days rest just yet. Crawford could start that game, I guess, but he is the perfect fit to take over from Houk tonight after Tanner efficiently gets through the order twice.
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Post by huskies15 on May 22, 2023 9:16:17 GMT -5
So when Duvall went down, how many of us expected him to still have produced more fWAR than Devers? While the power has mostly been there the all around offensive impact has not been to his standard. If he gets locked in all around that would be significant.
Couple little stat line battles I'm watching:
-Casas' quest to get above the mendoza line (currently hitting .180)
-Devers' battle to get above .300 OBP (.296 currently)
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Post by incandenza on May 22, 2023 9:36:23 GMT -5
I think about two-thirds of Devers' weak slash line is due to BABIP (.256) and one-third is an approach issue.
His xwOBA, .374, is the second highest of his career. His hard hit and barrel rates are as high as they've ever been.
But he has added some fly balls at the expense of line drives (the former is up about 6% and the latter is down 3%). He's also pulling the ball more (up from ~35% to ~45%).
And he has the lowest walk rate of his career. He's actually swinging slightly less outside the zone and slightly more inside the zone, and the K rate is holding steady. So I don't know why he's not drawing walks. But it's tough to have an elite batting line when you only walk 5% of the time.
I dunno, does this add up to a picture of a guy who's going up there to hit home runs in every at bat? More swinging in the zone->fewer walks; more fly balls->lower BABIP. It's not necessarily all bad, if that's the case - he does have the highest ISO of his career. But I keep wanting him to get to the next level by adding more OBP to his game and instead he's going in the opposite direction.
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Post by bosoxnation on May 22, 2023 9:52:29 GMT -5
So when Duvall went down, how many of us expected him to still have produced more fWAR than Devers? While the power has mostly been there the all around offensive impact has not been to his standard. If he gets locked in all around that would be significant. Couple little stat line battles I'm watching: -Casas' quest to get above the mendoza line (currently hitting .180) -Devers' battle to get above .300 OBP (.296 currently) I think it’s more Impressive that Verdugo and Duran are 1-2 and Sales tied with Devers. Duvall had a historic start. |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 22, 2023 10:40:00 GMT -5
The Red Sox are 26-21 without the benefit of playing the three worst teams in the AL and the NL: Oakland, Kansas City, Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Colorado, and Washington. They play 4 of these teams between now and the all star break.
MFY are 6-0
Tampa is 14-2
Baltimore is 9-3
Toranto is 6-1
Wow, a combined 35-6
Wow, I knew the other ALE teams had played weaker schedules, but this is even more telling than I would have thought, especially in the case of Tampa.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 22, 2023 12:01:27 GMT -5
Interesting that Wednesday's Sox starter remains T.B.D. Perhaps there is concern about Paxton going on 4 days rest just yet. Crawford could start that game, I guess, but he is the perfect fit to take over from Houk tonight after Tanner efficiently gets through the order twice. Wednesday would be 5 days rest for Paxton though. Either way, still curious about the TBD. |
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 22, 2023 14:12:06 GMT -5
Interesting that Wednesday's Sox starter remains T.B.D. Perhaps there is concern about Paxton going on 4 days rest just yet. Crawford could start that game, I guess, but he is the perfect fit to take over from Houk tonight after Tanner efficiently gets through the order twice. Wednesday would be 5 days rest for Paxton though. Either way, still curious about the TBD. |
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 22, 2023 14:14:18 GMT -5
Wednesday would be 5 days rest for Paxton though. Either way, still curious about the TBD. Paxton last pitched on Friday. So Sat-Tues is 4 days off. |
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Post by julyanmorley on May 22, 2023 17:05:47 GMT -5
Bleir to IL, Bernandino returns
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 22, 2023 17:07:29 GMT -5
I'd hope there would be a reason for Bleier's uninspiring pitching.
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Post by nomar on May 22, 2023 17:19:21 GMT -5
I'd hope there would be a reason for Bleier's uninspiring pitching. Getting traded for by Boston seems to have that effect on most relievers |
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Post by radiohix on May 22, 2023 18:20:23 GMT -5
I'd hope there would be a reason for Bleier's uninspiring pitching. Getting traded for by Boston seems to have that effect on most relievers His average fastball velocity is down by almost 2 mph. It seems like there's something physically bothering him. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 22, 2023 18:22:36 GMT -5
I'd hope there would be a reason for Bleier's uninspiring pitching. Getting traded for by Boston seems to have that effect on most relievers That gave me a laugh. |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 22, 2023 19:51:08 GMT -5
I'd hope there would be a reason for Bleier's uninspiring pitching. Getting traded for by Boston seems to have that effect on most relievers Yes, playing against 4 or the 7 best teams in the MLB and in smaller ballparks will do that to the majority of pitchers not just relievers… (I hate autocorrect) |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 22, 2023 19:54:41 GMT -5
The Red Sox are 26-21 without the benefit of playing the three worst teams in the AL and the NL: Oakland, Kansas City, Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Colorado, and Washington. They play 4 of these teams between now and the all star break. MFY are 6-0 Tampa is 14-2 Baltimore is 9-3 Toranto is 6-1 Wow, a combined 35-6 Wow, I knew the other ALE teams had played weaker schedules, but this is even more telling than I would have thought, especially in the case of Tampa. A full one third of Tampa’s games have come against the six weakest teams in the MLB. I would imagine they will be coming back to the pack in the ALE. |
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Post by iakovos11 on May 22, 2023 20:25:59 GMT -5
The Red Sox are 26-21 without the benefit of playing the three worst teams in the AL and the NL: Oakland, Kansas City, Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Colorado, and Washington. They play 4 of these teams between now and the all star break. MFY are 6-0 Tampa is 14-2 Baltimore is 9-3 Toranto is 6-1 Wow, a combined 35-6 Wow, I knew the other ALE teams had played weaker schedules, but this is even more telling than I would have thought, especially in the case of Tampa. A full one third of Tampa’s games have come against the six weakest teams in the MLB. I would imagine they will be coming back to the pack in the ALE. I probably agree with this to some extent. But what's their record against us? The Sox aren't one of the 6 weakest teams in MLB. |
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Post by greenmonster on May 22, 2023 20:28:34 GMT -5
Yoshida recruiting Ohtani
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 22, 2023 20:32:25 GMT -5
Happy that it is Middlebrooks providing color tonight.
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Post by cdj on May 22, 2023 20:54:37 GMT -5
Barria is thoroughly unimpressive, would be nice to paint a couple on early
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 22, 2023 21:05:39 GMT -5
Ground ball to the wrong guy - hoping for a DP there.
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 22, 2023 21:10:09 GMT -5
Houck getting hit hard..Not good
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Post by rico6 on May 22, 2023 21:10:48 GMT -5
Was that ground ball past Casas hit that hard or does he just have the range of a bronze statue? On replay, I thought he could have had it. |
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Post by cdj on May 22, 2023 21:12:02 GMT -5
Way to hang tough in that spot Tanner. Big time strikeout. Keeps them in it
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Post by notstarboard on May 22, 2023 21:13:07 GMT -5
A full one third of Tampa’s games have come against the six weakest teams in the MLB. I would imagine they will be coming back to the pack in the ALE. I probably agree with this to some extent. But what's their record against us? The Sox aren't one of the 6 weakest teams in MLB. 4 games is not a great sample, especially when the Sox had so many key players injured. Tampa's only 7-7 against the rest of the AL East. |
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