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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 26, 2023 22:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 26, 2023 22:29:13 GMT -5
This is probably as good of an example as what Ian was talking about on the pod re: different teams having different opinions on a guy as you can get. Johnson was cited on the pod as having nasty stuff but Llovera is major league ready and has been solid in a minuscule sample this season. So obviously the Giants must see something in Johnson they like whereas this seems like a relatively inconsequential cost for another potential bullpen arm.
I can appreciate that they have a good handful of darts to throw at shoring up the back of the bullpen now, solid work to fill out that depth. Hard to get too excited about anything beyond that with this.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 26, 2023 22:29:37 GMT -5
Got DFA'ed on Saturday and he's out of options. Pitch modeling likes him. Sinker/slider.
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Post by cdj on Jul 26, 2023 22:45:21 GMT -5
Interestingly enough his velo has ticked up a little every year
95.9 in the bigs this year
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 26, 2023 22:46:41 GMT -5
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 26, 2023 23:21:40 GMT -5
I consider myself pretty knowledgeable in baseball and sox prospects and I honestly had no idea who either of these two players were.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2023 0:42:46 GMT -5
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Post by bos834 on Jul 27, 2023 5:49:22 GMT -5
This is probably as good of an example as what Ian was talking about on the pod re: different teams having different opinions on a guy as you can get. Johnson was cited on the pod as having nasty stuff but Llovera is major league ready and has been solid in a minuscule sample this season. So obviously the Giants must see something in Johnson they like whereas this seems like a relatively inconsequential cost for another potential bullpen arm. I can appreciate that they have a good handful of darts to throw at shoring up the back of the bullpen now, solid work to fill out that depth. Hard to get too excited about anything beyond that with this. Good point. Also want to point out Johnson is from the West Coast. He grew up out west, and played college ball in California and is now heading back to the west coast. |
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Post by jimoh on Jul 27, 2023 8:45:33 GMT -5
I'm a little confused. I see that he's on the 40 and how they did that, but is it correct that he is out of options? Is he on the 26?
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2023 8:46:02 GMT -5
I'm a little confused. I see that he's on the 40 and how they did that, but is it correct that he is out of options? Is he on the 26? He is |
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 27, 2023 8:50:07 GMT -5
I'm a little confused. I see that he's on the 40 and how they did that, but is it correct that he is out of options? Is he on the 26? He is I don't see the countermove for that. I'd assume Jacques down? |
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2023 11:11:46 GMT -5
I don't see the countermove for that. I'd assume Jacques down? Makes the most sense. I just know Llovera has to stay up |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2023 13:32:56 GMT -5
You don't have to make that move until he reports. Conveniently, they're just bringing the whole team to him. My guess is that we hear today that they've optioned Jacques in order to start his 15-day clock. Pro-tip: this kind of thing is always reflected on our team rosters page. www.soxprospects.com/org.htm |
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2023 19:23:12 GMT -5
Anyone know anything more on this, especially given the tweet mparker shared in the series thread about Jacques having made the trip to SF? I'm curious if a Bleier or Joely trade is imminent or if there's another likely explanation.
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Post by passedball on Jul 28, 2023 19:35:25 GMT -5
Anyone know anything more on this, especially given the tweet mparker shared in the series thread about Jacques having made the trip to SF? I'm curious if a Bleier or Joely trade is imminent or if there's another likely explanation. Typically you don't know what happens until it happens under Chaim Bloom, but something is coming. Not a really informative post, but this front office gives nothing away. |
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Post by notstarboard on Jul 28, 2023 19:38:55 GMT -5
Anyone know anything more on this, especially given the tweet mparker shared in the series thread about Jacques having made the trip to SF? I'm curious if a Bleier or Joely trade is imminent or if there's another likely explanation. Typically you don't know what happens until it happens under Chaim Bloom, but something is coming. I think so too, but it looks like we have another day to wait: |
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Post by passedball on Jul 28, 2023 20:24:43 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom has maximized everything he could the past 2 weeks. Got to him credit for that. Held on to Kiké until basically the game started before he traded him.
Now churning relievers like Llovera because they don't have the starters. Kind of genius.
Bloom knows what he's doing. No stone unturned. He'd be hard to play against in fantasy or in MLB the Show.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 30, 2023 14:07:09 GMT -5
What did people think of his outing/stuff yesterday?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 30, 2023 14:25:03 GMT -5
What did people think of his outing/stuff yesterday? He looked to me like the sort of pitcher who could give most any batter trouble when he's "on." I'd suppose the key will be to make that happen frequently. |
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2023 14:28:44 GMT -5
The stuff is definitely big league quality
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 30, 2023 19:05:32 GMT -5
Anyone know anything more on this, especially given the tweet mparker shared in the series thread about Jacques having made the trip to SF? I'm curious if a Bleier or Joely trade is imminent or if there's another likely explanation. Apparently it's Joely to the IL per Cora. |
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 16, 2023 17:26:00 GMT -5
With Houck being called up by Monday/Tuesday to take a spot in the rotation (per Cora) it seems like Llovera's time may be over already.
If they really want to save him they could send down Murphy, but that would leave them with a single lefty in the bullpen, which doesn't seem likely.
Regardless, I still like the Nick Robertson pickup.
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