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Post by ck on Jan 9, 2024 15:51:16 GMT -5
Here we are in 2024 now. Things can and probably will change between now and the start of the season, but let's take a look at this year's bullpen.
Starters aren't completely settled yet even, but going a general consensus route...
Giolito
Bello
Pivetta
Acquisition
Crawford/Acquisition#2
For the sake of argument, I'm going with one acquisition and Crawford being in the rotation.
Closer
Jansen
BP Ace
Martin
1 inning/situational
Schreiber
Bernardino
Guys who can go through the order once
Houck
Whitlock
Winckowski
(Crawford if 2nd acquisition)
Out of options. Can he make the big club? vs DFA to AAA or another team takes
Mata
Rule 5 vs return to sender
Slaten
Others on 40
Jacques
Weiss
M Castillo
Criswell
I Campbell
Murphy
Weissert
Kelly
Walter
W Gonzalez
Benitez
Olivarez
Perales
Non-40 guys
Booser
German
Politi
L Guerrero
Still some FA available, Stephenson, Hader, among others who have been mentioned.
Personally, I'd like them to think outside the box. I've seen other people suggest it and I agree- forget the traditional "closer" role. See if you can get something for a subsidized Jansen. The Sox roster as constructed have a bunch of guys who are great one time through the order, but aren't quite consistent enough to be full time starters. Not necessarily "piggy-back"ing per se, but if a starter can go 5 or 6, let Houck/Whitlock/Wink go 50-60 pitches and finish the game. Use Martin as your BP ace who can get you out of a jam. Finally, have a few of your 1 inning or situational guys plug the rest of the holes. It also gives you the benefit that if a starter goes down, you have major league caliber guys ready to fill in who are stretched out enough.
I think the BP could be a strength this year if everyone is used to their strengths. But if everyone is relegated to 1 inn at a time and we have one guy who can only pitch the 9th in certain circumstances, then who knows.
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Post by likethewhiskey on Jan 9, 2024 16:28:20 GMT -5
Here we are in 2024 now. Things can and probably will change between now and the start of the season, but let's take a look at this year's bullpen. Starters aren't completely settled yet even, but going a general consensus route... Giolito Bello Pivetta Acquisition Crawford/Acquisition#2 For the sake of argument, I'm going with one acquisition and Crawford being in the rotation. Closer Jansen BP Ace Martin 1 inning/situational Schreiber Bernardino Guys who can go through the order once Houck Whitlock Winckowski (Crawford if 2nd acquisition) Out of options. Can he make the big club? vs DFA to AAA or another team takes Mata Rule 5 vs return to sender Slaten Others on 40 Jacques Weiss M Castillo Criswell I Campbell Murphy Weissert Kelly Walter W Gonzalez Benitez Olivarez Perales Non-40 guys Booser German Politi L Guerrero Still some FA available, Stephenson, Hader, among others who have been mentioned. Personally, I'd like them to think outside the box. I've seen other people suggest it and I agree- forget the traditional "closer" role. See if you can get something for a subsidized Jansen. The Sox roster as constructed have a bunch of guys who are great one time through the order, but aren't quite consistent enough to be full time starters. Not necessarily "piggy-back"ing per se, but if a starter can go 5 or 6, let Houck/Whitlock/Wink go 50-60 pitches and finish the game. Use Martin as your BP ace who can get you out of a jam. Finally, have a few of your 1 inning or situational guys plug the rest of the holes. It also gives you the benefit that if a starter goes down, you have major league caliber guys ready to fill in who are stretched out enough. I think the BP could be a strength this year if everyone is used to their strengths. But if everyone is relegated to 1 inn at a time and we have one guy who can only pitch the 9th in certain circumstances, then who knows.
I'll obviously regret this comment in season, but at this stage with the FO not realistically looking to be competitive in 2024, I'm on board for selling Martin and Jansen this offseason
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Post by aladaz on Jan 9, 2024 16:32:08 GMT -5
Here we are in 2024 now. Things can and probably will change between now and the start of the season, but let's take a look at this year's bullpen. Starters aren't completely settled yet even, but going a general consensus route... Giolito Bello Pivetta Acquisition Crawford/Acquisition#2 For the sake of argument, I'm going with one acquisition and Crawford being in the rotation. Closer Jansen BP Ace Martin 1 inning/situational Schreiber Bernardino Guys who can go through the order once Houck Whitlock Winckowski (Crawford if 2nd acquisition) Out of options. Can he make the big club? vs DFA to AAA or another team takes Mata Rule 5 vs return to sender Slaten Others on 40 Jacques Weiss M Castillo Criswell I Campbell Murphy Weissert Kelly Walter W Gonzalez Benitez Olivarez Perales Non-40 guys Booser German Politi L Guerrero Still some FA available, Stephenson, Hader, among others who have been mentioned. Personally, I'd like them to think outside the box. I've seen other people suggest it and I agree- forget the traditional "closer" role. See if you can get something for a subsidized Jansen. The Sox roster as constructed have a bunch of guys who are great one time through the order, but aren't quite consistent enough to be full time starters. Not necessarily "piggy-back"ing per se, but if a starter can go 5 or 6, let Houck/Whitlock/Wink go 50-60 pitches and finish the game. Use Martin as your BP ace who can get you out of a jam. Finally, have a few of your 1 inning or situational guys plug the rest of the holes. It also gives you the benefit that if a starter goes down, you have major league caliber guys ready to fill in who are stretched out enough. I think the BP could be a strength this year if everyone is used to their strengths. But if everyone is relegated to 1 inn at a time and we have one guy who can only pitch the 9th in certain circumstances, then who knows. I'll obviously regret this comment in season, but at this stage with the FO not realistically looking to be competitive in 2024, I'm on board for selling Martin and Jansen this offseason
Concur, if we can get something useful/longer-term for them, especially given the depth of playable bullpen guys on the 40 / in AAA. I'm also for a much shorter term starting pitcher contract and/or just letting Crawford, Houck and Whitlock be starters instead of going crazy with long-term acquisitions whose contracts will be albatrosses when we're in our more-likely-to-contend window. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 9, 2024 16:35:41 GMT -5
Here we are in 2024 now. Things can and probably will change between now and the start of the season, but let's take a look at this year's bullpen. Starters aren't completely settled yet even, but going a general consensus route... Giolito Bello Pivetta Acquisition Crawford/Acquisition#2 For the sake of argument, I'm going with one acquisition and Crawford being in the rotation. Closer Jansen BP Ace Martin 1 inning/situational Schreiber Bernardino Guys who can go through the order once Houck Whitlock Winckowski (Crawford if 2nd acquisition) Out of options. Can he make the big club? vs DFA to AAA or another team takes Mata Rule 5 vs return to sender Slaten Others on 40 Jacques Weiss M Castillo Criswell I Campbell Murphy Weissert Kelly Walter W Gonzalez Benitez Olivarez Perales Non-40 guys Booser German Politi L Guerrero Still some FA available, Stephenson, Hader, among others who have been mentioned. Personally, I'd like them to think outside the box. I've seen other people suggest it and I agree- forget the traditional "closer" role. See if you can get something for a subsidized Jansen. The Sox roster as constructed have a bunch of guys who are great one time through the order, but aren't quite consistent enough to be full time starters. Not necessarily "piggy-back"ing per se, but if a starter can go 5 or 6, let Houck/Whitlock/Wink go 50-60 pitches and finish the game. Use Martin as your BP ace who can get you out of a jam. Finally, have a few of your 1 inning or situational guys plug the rest of the holes. It also gives you the benefit that if a starter goes down, you have major league caliber guys ready to fill in who are stretched out enough. I think the BP could be a strength this year if everyone is used to their strengths. But if everyone is relegated to 1 inn at a time and we have one guy who can only pitch the 9th in certain circumstances, then who knows.
I'll obviously regret this comment in season, but at this stage with the FO not realistically looking to be competitive in 2024, I'm on board for selling Martin and Jansen this offseason
I wouldn't be upset at dealing them before the season but they may as well see if the team can catch lightning in a bottle this season and if not they could perhaps get more for them at the deadline as sellers anyway. |
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