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Post by blizzards39 on Mar 23, 2024 14:57:39 GMT -5
Chase Anderson. Not the pitcher we wanted, but at least a MLB arm.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 23, 2024 14:58:12 GMT -5
Threw his fastball and sinker 40% last year and those two pitches grade out as completely unplayable on the Stuff+ type metrics. I'll bet he doesn't throw many of those for us.
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Post by wildsox on Mar 23, 2024 15:09:18 GMT -5
Picking up cast-offs that can't make the Pirates is not something we are used to seeing.
I just hope he doesn't get a spot over Weissert
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Post by rhswanzey on Mar 23, 2024 15:14:57 GMT -5
On brand
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Post by asm18 on Mar 23, 2024 15:15:05 GMT -5
When is the last time the team had basically a designated long relief guy? Maybe like 2021 Phillips Valdez? The multi-inning relievers of the past few years (think 2021 Whitlock, 2023 Wincowski) have been too valuable to use in blow-outs/garbage time - which is about the only situations where I’d like to see Mr. Anderson.
ADD: Was taking a look at the first two games of last year, where Kluber and Sale both got shelled against Baltimore and pitched like three innings a piece. To fill in the gaps they needed:
1.2 IP from Zach Kelley (pitched in both games)
2 IP from Kaleb Ort
1 IP from Ryan Briaser
3 IP from Winckowski (pitched in both games)
I guess there’s some value in having one dude who can fall on the grenade, as opposed to using like half the bullpen to do it.
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Post by wildsox on Mar 23, 2024 15:50:18 GMT -5
Giving him a Major League deal is the thing that baffles me. And yes, I know he wouldn't sign here if we didn't give him that
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 23, 2024 15:52:20 GMT -5
Giving him a Major League deal is the thing that baffles me. And yes, I know he wouldn't sign here if we didn't give him that Just think of it as they claimed a guy on waivers who is out of options. Not much difference. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 23, 2024 16:29:25 GMT -5
Chase Anderson. Not the pitcher we wanted, but at least a MLB arm. Debatable. Hasn't had a season with an ERA below 5 since 2019. He has been the walking definition of "replacement level" |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 23, 2024 17:22:09 GMT -5
So this means that either Jansen starts off the season on the IL, Campbell or Weissert gets sent down to AAA or both lefties Rodriguez and Luetke don't make the staff and they only carry one lefty in the pen.
They're going to go with 13 pitchers.
If there arent any injuries between now and Opening Day, the starting 5 are: Bello, Pivetta, Crawford, Houck, and Whitlock.
The pen will carry 8 pitchers.
Martin, Winckowski, and Bernardino are locks.
It sounds like they plan on carrying two guys who can pitch multiple innings so Chase Anderson will make the team.
I'd say they're going to hang on to Slaten rather than lose him.
I think Cora likes having a Schreiber clone in the pen which bodes well for Weissert although they could send him down.
If Jansen is healthy he obviously closes and that would leave one spot. If they deem him not ready then the Sox have a spot for Campbell and a second lefty, whether it's Rodriguez, who I think theys probably keep over Luetke based on stuff if not results.
My guess is they keep Rodriguez, Luetke will go and Campbell will be sent to AAA awaiting an injury to come back up. Criswell would be on standby as well.
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Post by wildsox on Mar 23, 2024 17:35:53 GMT -5
So this means that either Jansen starts off the season on the IL, Campbell or Weissert gets sent down to AAA or both lefties Rodriguez and Luetke don't make the staff and they only carry one lefty in the pen. They're going to go with 13 pitchers. If there arent any injuries between now and Opening Day, the starting 5 are: Bello, Pivetta, Crawford, Houck, and Whitlock. The pen will carry 8 pitchers. Martin, Winckowski, and Bernardino are locks. It sounds like they plan on carrying two guys who can pitch multiple innings so Chase Anderson will make the team. I'd say they're going to hang on to Slaten rather than lose him. I think Cora likes having a Schreiber clone in the pen which bodes well for Weissert although they could send him down. If Jansen is healthy he obviously closes and that would leave one spot. If they deem him not ready then the Sox have a spot for Campbell and a second lefty, whether it's Rodriguez, who I think theys probably keep over Luetke based on stuff if not results. My guess is they keep Rodriguez, Luetke will go and Campbell will be sent to AAA awaiting an injury to come back up. Criswell would be on standby as well. Campbell has been lights out all spring and probably been our best pitcher |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 23, 2024 17:59:18 GMT -5
So this means that either Jansen starts off the season on the IL, Campbell or Weissert gets sent down to AAA or both lefties Rodriguez and Luetke don't make the staff and they only carry one lefty in the pen. They're going to go with 13 pitchers. If there arent any injuries between now and Opening Day, the starting 5 are: Bello, Pivetta, Crawford, Houck, and Whitlock. The pen will carry 8 pitchers. Martin, Winckowski, and Bernardino are locks. It sounds like they plan on carrying two guys who can pitch multiple innings so Chase Anderson will make the team. I'd say they're going to hang on to Slaten rather than lose him. I think Cora likes having a Schreiber clone in the pen which bodes well for Weissert although they could send him down. If Jansen is healthy he obviously closes and that would leave one spot. If they deem him not ready then the Sox have a spot for Campbell and a second lefty, whether it's Rodriguez, who I think theys probably keep over Luetke based on stuff if not results. My guess is they keep Rodriguez, Luetke will go and Campbell will be sent to AAA awaiting an injury to come back up. Criswell would be on standby as well. Campbell has been lights out all spring and probably been our best pitcher Yes, but only he and Weissert have options. Maybe they just go with one lefty and neither Rodriguez or Luetke make the team. I guess we'll know by tomorrow as far as Rodriguez goes and even Cron. |
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Post by Smittyw on Mar 23, 2024 18:32:34 GMT -5
Would like it more if they could stash him in Worcester and keep him stretched out. Not sure how much good he does us in the pen.
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Post by yuchangclan on Mar 23, 2024 18:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Mar 23, 2024 19:52:46 GMT -5
Chase Anderson. Not the pitcher we wanted, but at least a MLB arm. Debatable. Hasn't had a season with an ERA below 5 since 2019. He has been the walking definition of "replacement level" Guess the FO was not able to find another Chris Webber type of discard to sign for a miLB deal. |
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Post by dcb26 on Mar 23, 2024 20:12:21 GMT -5
I seriously doubt they would sign a guy like this and plan to keep him on the 26-man roster if they loved everyone previously projected for the bullpen. The end of Spring training, after a long time to evaluate the players on the periphery of the roster, is a time I'm most willing to trust the team's judgement of their players. If there was a spot they already weren't sold on and think there's a chance of fixing Anderson, cool.
Unless of course they just want someone as an emergency option for the initial rough stretch of games and are ok with optioning someone else for a couple of weeks to make that happen.
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Post by bosoxnation on Mar 23, 2024 23:18:55 GMT -5
That post All Star break ERA was in how many innings?
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 24, 2024 6:33:38 GMT -5
Picking up cast-offs that can't make the Pirates is not something we are used to seeing. I just hope he doesn't get a spot over Weissert But the price is right! I don't see the point on giving him this deal. This guy has been the absolute definition of a JAG. This is the guy you give a minor league deal to and he's coming at the price of Slaten (I don't want the Sox to send him back he looks good overall) , Campbell or Weissert starting the year with the team. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 24, 2024 6:51:21 GMT -5
Chase Anderson. Not the pitcher we wanted, but at least a MLB arm. Based on his first MLB game. maybe we dodged an artillery sized bullet. |
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Post by vokuhila on Mar 24, 2024 7:37:17 GMT -5
What's with all the negativity? The RedSox have 2 or 3 guys that will go on the 60 day IL, opening up roster space and they lack bulk/swingman/depthstarter types. Anderson just fills this need.
Ian basically predicted this exact move a couple of days ago on the "off the pike" pod.
Is this the most exciting move ever and is Anderson the next Koji? no. But I bet we will be happy to see him eat some of the missing 180 Giolito innings.
And based on the PatSullivan tweets there may even be some upside left. He is a spaghetti...lets see if he sticks!
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Post by alnipper on Mar 24, 2024 8:49:12 GMT -5
The Sox aren't contenders this year, so taking a chance on him is fine. The Sox need innings and trade chips at the deadline.
I also prefer to not put to much pressure on the young arms.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Mar 24, 2024 9:25:35 GMT -5
Debatable. Hasn't had a season with an ERA below 5 since 2019. He has been the walking definition of "replacement level" Guess the FO was not able to find another Chris Webber type of discard to sign for a miLB deal. Do you mean Ryan Weber. The only Chris Webber I can think of played basketball for Michigan and in the NBA. |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Mar 24, 2024 10:42:30 GMT -5
The Sox aren't contenders this year, so taking a chance on him is fine. The Sox need innings and trade chips at the deadline. I also prefer to not put to much pressure on the young arms. Were the 1986 Red Sox contenders? They had a solid veteran core in the lineup and a stable of promising young starters but they finished at .500 in '85, in 5th place, 18.5 games out of a playoff spot, and were still waiting to see what a full season of young stud Roger Clemens might bring after he missed most of the second half of '85. There was excitement for him among the fans following his sophomore season (I'd be interested to know what the excitement level was in the clubhouse) but there weren't exactly 20-K-game expectations, let alone playoff hopes. I don't think the 2013 or 2021 teams were contenders either. I guess for some people you start the season tied for first place and for others you start the season tied for last. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 24, 2024 12:11:33 GMT -5
For the record: I'm one of the former (the minority, methinks).
Btw, Does the 2024 rotation echo the uncertainty of the 1986 rotation of Clemens, Boyd, Hurst, Nipper & 41-year old Seaver? No certain-to-be-good in that five, although Oil Can had pitched 272 innings in 1985 @ 135 lbs. #Impressive
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Post by ephus on Mar 24, 2024 12:12:09 GMT -5
Picking up cast-offs that can't make the Pirates is not something we are used to seeing. I just hope he doesn't get a spot over Weissert This feels like Tim Wakefield slander. I’m sure it’s not, but let’s give dude a chance. |
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Post by vokuhila on Mar 24, 2024 12:26:47 GMT -5
Picking up cast-offs that can't make the Pirates is not something we are used to seeing. I just hope he doesn't get a spot over Weissert This feels like Tim Wakefield slander. I’m sure it’s not, but let’s give dude a chance. Wise! |
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