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Post by nomar on Apr 2, 2024 9:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Apr 2, 2024 9:09:32 GMT -5
woah. RIP
Thanks for 2004
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 2, 2024 9:24:46 GMT -5
He was a lot more fun than Sam Kennedy. You got the sense the he really enjoyed the rough and tumble. Got two stadiums built and then won three rings with us - that's some serious success for a guy like him. Theo was his protege and followed him to three different teams, but Camelot did not last forever.
RIP
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Post by costpet on Apr 2, 2024 9:29:44 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way.
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Post by nomar on Apr 2, 2024 9:31:03 GMT -5
He was human and made some mistakes, but was really passionate about the Red Sox winning. Another sad day for Red Sox nation.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 2, 2024 9:38:06 GMT -5
True story - young ASM18 went to the 2004 Red Sox celebration at the Providence State House featuring Larry Lucchino and Bronson Arroyo. While Lucchino was shaking hands and greeting us all one by one, I asked him for his phone number and he gave me his "office number" and wrote it on a WEEI poster. A few days later I called it and there was no pickup, and I had assumed he just given out a fake number.
About 10 years later, I called again randomly on someone's suggestion (I still had the signed poster!)... and Lucchino's secretary picked up.
RIP Larry
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Post by 0ap0 on Apr 2, 2024 9:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by greenmonster on Apr 2, 2024 9:48:16 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way. This is a pretty narrow-minded take. The Red Sox had NOT won a WS in 86 years. He did what was needed to "Break the Curse" which was quickly followed by another championship in 2007 Rest in Peace Larry |
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Post by cdj on Apr 2, 2024 9:55:18 GMT -5
I guess in a way all of our deaths are developing stories |
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Post by brisox on Apr 2, 2024 12:27:33 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way. This is classless . A man died. A kind man with a family. I met Larry several times and he was very caring and considerate and loved the RS as much as anyone could . He always did what he thought was best for the organization. He was a proud member of RS Nation, the Jimmy fund , the pan Mass challenge. He gave of himself generously. My condolences to his family and all those who knew him well. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 2, 2024 12:33:04 GMT -5
So sad to hear about his passing.
Early on I thought he was the bad guy in the Theo situation.
I sometimes thought he was more about growing the brand than winning games, although winning and brand go hand in hand.
But I look at the apathy that has built for the Sox over the past few years and realize that didnt last long at all with the Sox, even with the Sept 2011 choke and the Bobby Valentine fiasco when Lucchino was around.
The Red Sox were never ignored in their own media market and the ballpark was always filled. He played a big part in helping to ignite or reignite the passion fans have for the Red Sox. That's no small thing.
From a personal standpoint, Larry gained a fan in me.
I was lucky enough to attend the 2022 national SABR convention in Baltimore, where Lucchino, Charles Steinberg, and Janet Marie Smith were guest speakers, commemorating the 30th anniversary of Canden Yards, which is a marvel.
I got to attend this gorgeous ballpark which finally has a team worthy of it, and of course Fenway is night and day better than it was in the 90s.
But the thing that struck me most was after he, Steinberg, and Smith finished their talk on Camden Yards, I got Lucchino's autograph and he noticed the 2004 Red Sox championship shirt I was wearing and he reached down and grabbed a 2004 World Series champion cap and gave it to me. He didnt have to do that.
That was very classy. The man cared about the fans and their fan experiences and Larry Lucchino certainly made my fan experience much better. Thanks Larry. I'll never forget that day and your kindness and I'm glad to have a photo of me with Larry, Charles Steinberg, and Janet Marie Smith, along with a cap I'll always treasure.
RIP.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 2, 2024 13:18:35 GMT -5
His contributions not only to ballpark architecture, but to the general revitalization of downtown areas nationally cannot be overstated. Camden Yards was a triumph in an era when parks were bland and built amongst parking lots. Building walkable districts around ballparks IMHO has helped people understand why (or at least not fight over) downtown areas need to be people-centric rather than car-centric. Even though this had started before Larry, and was supported by many, his importance to that idea is seen even recently in Worcester, where he had the political will and heft to get a ballpark done as an anchor to a new city center. I would maintain that even more than winning was to knit the culture, urban fabric, history, architecture, and vibrancy of the team and ballpark into that of the city, something the Red Sox did expertly for a 21st century audience while he led the team. Not only did he do the same in Baltimore, SD, and Worcester, but the blueprint has been followed all over the country wherever stadiums mesh with downtown areas to create vibrant commercial districts.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 2, 2024 17:15:36 GMT -5
Fans could do a lot worse than to have a LL in their corner. He may not have always hit on his attempts, but it was never for a lack of caring. Of all the remaining Sox leadership, he is one we will all miss the most. May he rest in peace.
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 2, 2024 19:41:33 GMT -5
I loved that Lucchino hated George Steinbrenner so much(and that the feeling was mutual). Lucchino is the one that branded the Yankees “The Evil Empire”,(which of course they fully embraced). I remember Steinbrenner had some choice words about Lucchino, as well. That’s when the Sox/Yankees rivalry was at its best. The hatred ran all the way up to the owners and front offices. Now they all just hug each other and share amusing anecdotes. RIP Larry.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 2, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way. When did he do this? Are you talking about the Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez trade for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell? Beckett was 25 at the time with his prime ahead of him. Whatever. I thought LL did a lot of good things for the Red Sox. He made it clear that the HWL regime would be fearless in going head to head with the MFY and that's exactly what happened, as the WS scoreboard for this century shows. It always sounded like he could be super demanding and grate on people but that's how competitive people are. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 2, 2024 22:42:08 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way. Dont really want to get in a debate when trying to honor somebody who passed away and was an overall positive impact on my Red Sox fandom. I'll echo others. Other than the Beckett and Lowell deal where they gave up Hanley and Sanchez I cant think of a trade where Lucchino was involved where they traded future for present. They traded a young SS for the only thing more valuable, a young pitching ace. Lucchino liked building compelling teams that had star power. 20 years ago just about every star player either wanted to go to NY or Boston. Contrast that with Jordan Montgonery who had no desire to come to NY for personal reasons or Boston because he didnt think they'd be very competitive, it's a stark difference. |
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Post by redsoxfansince94 on Apr 3, 2024 15:29:02 GMT -5
I’ll never forget him being an integral part of taking away the PawSox.
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