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Post by grandsalami on Apr 18, 2024 21:09:44 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 18, 2024 21:14:15 GMT -5
I guess that means Jacques is getting the DFA for Booser
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 18, 2024 21:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 18, 2024 21:20:45 GMT -5
Hope they dont have to use him. His numbers are just ugly and pretty much just have been, even in the minors.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 18, 2024 21:21:49 GMT -5
Gutierrez was a borderline top 10 prospect for the Reds, had an okay rookie year in 2021, then stunk in 2022 before getting TJS and has only pitched a handful of innings since. Kyle Boddy was with the Reds when they had him, possibly relevant.
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Post by Jason on Apr 18, 2024 21:28:05 GMT -5
I guess that means Jacques is getting the DFA for Booser Or Mata to the 60 day il. Kick the can down the road. |
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Post by cdj on Apr 18, 2024 21:28:14 GMT -5
He’s got a badass black widow spider tattooed on his throat, intangibles
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 18, 2024 21:37:42 GMT -5
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 18, 2024 21:59:18 GMT -5
Is this the 2024 Barraclaugh we are missing?
Seriously....OK. An arm, a warm body - this is where we are at.
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Post by sxfan on Apr 18, 2024 22:15:15 GMT -5
The Sox need a warm body. They don't have anyone behind Criswell.
He may suck, but the Sox need to cover innings somehow. Not going to judge Breslow poorly on this move, even if it doesn't work out.
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Post by nomar on Apr 18, 2024 22:15:29 GMT -5
Wow no bad “can he play SS” joke. We’re slacking
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Post by cdj on Apr 18, 2024 22:26:57 GMT -5
He’s just more high minors depth in case of another injury. Throw him in the Criswell/Uwasawa bin
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 18, 2024 23:45:49 GMT -5
The Sox need a warm body. They don't have anyone behind Criswell. He may suck, but the Sox need to cover innings somehow. Not going to judge Breslow poorly on this move, even if it doesn't work out. Uwasawa |
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Post by bluechip on Apr 19, 2024 0:02:21 GMT -5
The Sox need a warm body. They don't have anyone behind Criswell. He may suck, but the Sox need to cover innings somehow. Not going to judge Breslow poorly on this move, even if it doesn't work out. Uwasawa Need more insurance there. Uwasawa had a less than ideal line in his second start. 5 innings, 4 earned runs, 2 hbp, 2 walks, one 1 homer, 5ks. Small sample, obviously. |
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Post by insanesoxfan on Apr 19, 2024 0:15:26 GMT -5
I guess that means Jacques is getting the DFA for Booser Its either Jacques DFA, or Walter/Mata to the 60 day |
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Post by vokuhila on Apr 19, 2024 1:48:36 GMT -5
What's the plan here?
Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline?
I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel
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Post by greenmonster on Apr 19, 2024 8:05:55 GMT -5
Apparently they really are ..."All In"
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 19, 2024 12:11:41 GMT -5
Wow no bad “can he play SS” joke. We’re slacking With a name like Gutierrez, I initially thought he might be a SS, and was disappointed to see that he was a pitcher… |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 19, 2024 12:15:37 GMT -5
What's the plan here? Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline? I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel With all the starters on the DL, AAA is short of starters. Maybe Gutierrez is simply to help fill the innings in Worcester. Somebody needs to start those games as well as in Boston. |
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Post by cmax on Apr 19, 2024 12:42:53 GMT -5
I like this move. He gave up one 3 run homer to Tellez at the end of a long at bat in his only MLB outing this year and then got cut. His outing was otherwise solid. He showed some flashes before his injury. Clearly he will be motivated. If nothing else, will be interesting to see what the pitching development team can make of him and we need pitching depth so worth a shot, even if it doesn't end up working out.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 19, 2024 13:28:23 GMT -5
What's the plan here? Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline? I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel With all the starters on the DL, AAA is short of starters. Maybe Gutierrez is simply to help fill the innings in Worcester. Somebody needs to start those games as well as in Boston. Eh, I don't know that you trade for a guy on the 40-man for that. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 19, 2024 13:58:10 GMT -5
What's the plan here? Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline? I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel The plan is he's better than Joe Jacques who has an ERA of 15.75 in AAA this year. |
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Post by vokuhila on Apr 19, 2024 14:30:12 GMT -5
What's the plan here? Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline? I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel The plan is he's better than Joe Jacques who has an ERA of 15.75 in AAA this year. Is he though? I mean technically you'r right...Gutierrez' AAA ERA this year is only 13.5!  His last significant MLB innings (36IP) were in 2022 with 7.6ERA/5.7xERA. That's pretty Jacques-que IMO. Maybe he just gives you more innings? He was a free agent this offseason and the RedSox are his 3rd team this year...guess he is "just a body" |
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 19, 2024 16:50:00 GMT -5
What's the plan here? Is he just a throwaway? Do they plan to to give him major league innings in his current state? Is he a project for the pipeline? I'm ok with 1 and 3...2 would be scraping deep down in the barrel The plan is he's better than Joe Jacques who has an ERA of 15.75 in AAA this year. Over 4 innings... And, true to form, despite being strangely wild this season (3.2 BB/9 in his MLB career), he did not allow a hit that traveled more that 256' (a double by Ji-Man Choi) in that sample. From 2023 to present, only four players in the majors have a higher GB% while throwing more innings than Jacques: Andre Pallante, Clay Holmes, John King, and Jhoan Duran. Is he a great fit for the current infield? Certainly not. But the unwarranted disrespect this man has gotten, even among the comparatively measured denizens of SP.com, makes me want to go to bat for him. Will I be shocked if he's thriving in Tampa by August? Not one bit.
Complete aside, but it looks like there's an error in the stats in Jacques' first game - Politi is credited with 0.1 IP despite him relieving Jacques mid-inning and allowing a walk off grand slam with 0 outs per the "key moments" list. Isn't this mostly automated? No clue how that gets missed. |
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 19, 2024 22:38:12 GMT -5
With all the starters on the DL, AAA is short of starters. Maybe Gutierrez is simply to help fill the innings in Worcester. Somebody needs to start those games as well as in Boston. Eh, I don't know that you trade for a guy on the 40-man for that. Depth you hope you don’t have to use…and easy to DFA since he did not cost you anything except some cash… |
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