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4/26-4/28 Red Sox vs. Cubs Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 26, 2024 6:26:36 GMT -5
4/26 Red Sox (RHP Kutter Crawford, 1-0, 0.66, 27.1 IP, 30K:11BB) vs. Cubs (LHP Shoto Imanaga, 3-0, 0.84, 21.1 IP, 21K:2BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/27 Red Sox (RHP Josh Winckowski, 1-1, 4.20, 15.0 IP, 18K:8BB) vs. Cubs (TBD) 4:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/28 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 3-2, 1.65, 32.2 IP, 32K:5BB) vs. Cubs (LHP Jordan Wicks, 1-2, 4.70, 23.0 IP, 28K:9BB) 7:10 pm ET, ESPN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Apr 26, 2024 6:45:52 GMT -5
I wonder if Winckowski is stretched out enough to go 5. Not that far removed from spring training where it would be a stretch.
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Post by strike23 on Apr 26, 2024 9:14:46 GMT -5
I wonder if Winckowski is stretched out enough to go 5. Not that far removed from spring training where it would be a stretch. 46 pitches last time, maybe ramped to 60-65 this time out? That's 5 if he's super efficient |
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Post by asm18 on Apr 26, 2024 9:16:53 GMT -5
I wonder if Winckowski is stretched out enough to go 5. Not that far removed from spring training where it would be a stretch. 46 pitches last time, maybe ramped to 60-65 this time out? That's 5 if he's super efficient On the radio broadcast last time out they said Cora was looking for Winck to go 60 pitches, but ended up pulling him early. So yeah hopefully 60-70+ is doable |
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Post by strike23 on Apr 26, 2024 9:22:21 GMT -5
I hope he doesn't break 70, that's a pretty big jump and I'd rather burn out Kelly's arm in the bullpen than lose another pitcher that is a passable depth starter to injury
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Post by asm18 on Apr 26, 2024 9:44:23 GMT -5
Japanese baseball head-to-head stats don't seem particularly easy to find, so I don't know for sure if Yoshida has actually ever faced Shota Imanaga before. But if they actually let Masa play tonight you'd think he'd likely have the most experience against him Imanaga with a 0.84 ERA and 0.75 WHIP to go with an elite chase/walk rate so far... but he's also giving up a lot of hard contact and balls in the air. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 26, 2024 9:48:04 GMT -5
I'm gonna be a little bit salty if Imanaga kills us pitching on that tiny contract he's on
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 26, 2024 10:06:17 GMT -5
I forgot about Imanaga. He's having a decent year it seems.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 26, 2024 11:51:39 GMT -5
Not sure how many folks follow the dumpster fire that is Red Sox Twitter, but if the Sox lose today and tomorrow, I’m blaming Liam.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 26, 2024 13:50:21 GMT -5
B-ref has the Sox as tied for the 4th best team in MLB, while the Cubs are in a 4-way tie for 9th.
How can that be?
The Sox have played 10 games against the 3 best teams in baseball, while the Cubs have played none against the top 5.
The Cubs have played 10 games against the 5 worst teams in baseball while the Sox have yet to play 1.
Excluding these extremes the Sox are 12-4 and the Cubs are 8 -7.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 26, 2024 13:55:49 GMT -5
I really thought we were gonna get Yoshida in LF just to make everyone rip their hair out today. Alas, he sits again
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Post by gerry on Apr 26, 2024 14:01:24 GMT -5
Interesting. The Sox have played +500 ball, mostly on the road, starting with a lengthy west coast trip; and just returned from a 4-2 road trip … and with seemingly half the team on the IL. Howzabout the Cubs?
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 26, 2024 14:02:22 GMT -5
So, Yoshida must be dead, right? Right??
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Post by gerry on Apr 26, 2024 14:04:43 GMT -5
I really thought we were gonna get Yoshida in LF just to make everyone rip their hair out today. Alas, he sits again Against Imanaga? Unless Masa is injured that seems insulting. |
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Post by asm18 on Apr 26, 2024 14:05:20 GMT -5
Duran CF, O’Neill RF, Refsnyder LF, Devers DH, Wong C, Reyes 3B, Dalbec 1B, Valdez 2B, Rafaela SS
In a vacuum this is not an unreasonable lineup against a lefty with Devers not ready to play the field yet, but gotta wonder how they're communicating this to Yoshida.
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Post by wamderingdude on Apr 26, 2024 14:19:17 GMT -5
I genuinely don’t know where Yoshida was supposed to play tonight if the Red Sox are trying to win games. Even if you ignore the defense, which is extremely hard to do, TON and refsnyder are just straight up better hitters against lefties. And i don’t think a single person would advocate sitting Devers for him.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 26, 2024 14:23:55 GMT -5
Duran CF, O’Neill RF, Refsnyder LF, Devers DH, Wong C, Reyes 3B, Dalbec 1B, Valdez 2B, Rafaela SS In a vacuum this is not an unreasonable lineup against a lefty with Devers not ready to play the field yet, but gotta wonder how they're communicating this to Yoshida. In a vacuum, totally makes sense. However, does anyone know what Masa’s splits are against Imanaga in Japan? If he has an .800+ OPS against him, then this is just straight up weird. |
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 26, 2024 14:24:09 GMT -5
I genuinely don’t know where Yoshida was supposed to play tonight if the Red Sox are trying to win games. Even if you ignore the defense, which is extremely hard to do, TON and refsnyder are just straight up better hitters against lefties. And i don’t think a single person would advocate sitting Devers for him. There was a hope that they would play Refsnyder at first and sit Dalbec. Clearly that will not happen. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 26, 2024 14:28:23 GMT -5
gotta wonder how they're communicating this to Yoshida. I would communicate this by continuing to send him his bi-weekly checks for $1.5 million dollars |
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Post by incandenza on Apr 26, 2024 14:29:36 GMT -5
I genuinely don’t know where Yoshida was supposed to play tonight if the Red Sox are trying to win games. Even if you ignore the defense, which is extremely hard to do, TON and refsnyder are just straight up better hitters against lefties. And i don’t think a single person would advocate sitting Devers for him. There was a hope that they would play Refsnyder at first and sit Dalbec. Clearly that will not happen. Have reporters asked Cora about this specific scenario? The team has explicitly said that Refsnyder would play some at 1B, and also explicitly said Yoshida would play some in LF, but in the ideal scenario to do just this they're... still not doing it.
Not that I hate what they're doing in this specific game; being able to pinch hit for one of the guys at the bottom of the lineup could be useful. But like others have pointed out, the context is an overall pattern of marginalizing Yoshida, with - as is often the case with this organization since Bloom was fired - no real public communication as to what their thinking is.
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Post by wamderingdude on Apr 26, 2024 14:29:53 GMT -5
I genuinely don’t know where Yoshida was supposed to play tonight if the Red Sox are trying to win games. Even if you ignore the defense, which is extremely hard to do, TON and refsnyder are just straight up better hitters against lefties. And i don’t think a single person would advocate sitting Devers for him. There was a hope that they would play Refsnyder at first and sit Dalbec. Clearly that will not happen. I mean maybe, but that’s Downgrading two defense positions (left field and first base), and for their careers Bobby is a better hitter against lefties. Bobby is probably all the way cooked, and if he is just DFA him, but this is like the only reason he’s on the roster. I also think if the red sox thought refsnyder was actually capable of playing first he would have done it. I think they looked at it in spring and the rehab assignment and determined it’s not in the cards. Add: Bobby has a career 119 WRC+ against lefties. Unless you think the 15 PA’s this year are more indicative than the 352 before this year, i wouldn’t be dying to play yoshida over him anyway. I never thought i would defend Dalbec today and he’s going to reward me by going 0-4 with 4 strikeouts lol. |
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Post by asm18 on Apr 26, 2024 14:34:41 GMT -5
Duran CF, O’Neill RF, Refsnyder LF, Devers DH, Wong C, Reyes 3B, Dalbec 1B, Valdez 2B, Rafaela SS In a vacuum this is not an unreasonable lineup against a lefty with Devers not ready to play the field yet, but gotta wonder how they're communicating this to Yoshida. In a vacuum, totally makes sense. However, does anyone know what Masa’s splits are against Imanaga in Japan? If he has an .800+ OPS against him, then this is just straight up weird. Was trying to find those this morning but Japanese game logs in English are hard to find. My (very limited) understanding is that Orix (Masa) and the Baystars (Shota) are in technically seperate leagues - think AL and NL - and it's possible they haven't played each other? |
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 26, 2024 14:35:05 GMT -5
I will admit that I just learned Dalbec actually did still hit lefties well in 2022 and 2023, just not as well as he had before and he might as well swing a toothpick against righties.
He looks totally cooked to me but maybe there’s hope he could still hit lefties at least.
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Post by manfred on Apr 26, 2024 14:37:06 GMT -5
Could Yoshida play first? He can’t he *worse* there than he would be in LF, and he’s a better hitter than Bobby.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 26, 2024 14:42:15 GMT -5
Could Yoshida play first? He can’t he *worse* there than he would be in LF, and he’s a better hitter than Bobby. Of course he could be worse at 1B. And the thing is he's not that bad in LF. He's certainly no Ramirez (Hanley or Manny, take your pick); and it's Fenway, he can manage out there. |
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