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Post by manfred on Apr 26, 2024 22:23:27 GMT -5
The Duran train is letting off passengers, but give the conductor your name so you can’t get back on later. Meanwhile, I remain in 1st Class seating.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 26, 2024 22:39:02 GMT -5
The Duran train is letting off passengers, but give the conductor your name so you can’t get back on later. Meanwhile, I remain in 1st Class seating. Im not out on Duran yet and I think he’s shown enough resilience to get some BOTD, and the defensive improvement is truly amazing, but there are definitely some red flags popping up here that remind why he was a popular trade candidate and also basically left for dead in the minds of most Sox fans pre-2023
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Post by incandenza on Apr 26, 2024 23:06:14 GMT -5
Duran's just in a slump; it's just that April slumps always feel like the end of the world. All of one week ago Duran was hitting .301/.366/.422 and Abreu was hitting .184/.295/.263.
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 27, 2024 6:37:57 GMT -5
I don’t get the Bobby D. thing with this team. I seen enough of this guy for the rest of my life.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 27, 2024 8:19:16 GMT -5
Duran's just in a slump; it's just that April slumps always feel like the end of the world. All of one week ago Duran was hitting .301/.366/.422 and Abreu was hitting .184/.295/.263. Yeah this is fair. He’s also underperforming his xwOBA despite feeling like a guy likely to exceed it consistently. And can’t be sure yet but it is possible a .321 BABIP actually is is on the lower end of what he’ll do.
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Post by cdj on Apr 27, 2024 8:43:09 GMT -5
The Duran train is letting off passengers, but give the conductor your name so you can’t get back on later. Meanwhile, I remain in 1st Class seating. All the dude does is make adjustments, I ain’t hopping off! Especially since he’s now a solid to good OF
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 27, 2024 9:08:08 GMT -5
Duran is among the least of my worries right now.
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Post by pappyman99 on Apr 27, 2024 10:36:46 GMT -5
I don’t for me Duran was/is a walking red flag
He is a very poor mans Carl Crawford but with worse k rates and defense.
Crawford fell off a cliff at 28-29. Duran doesn’t have much of a cliff to fall off other than what looks like a significant outlier year
Yeah I’d much prefer he is the player of last year as his norm but I’m not going to talk myself into that.
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Post by manfred on Apr 27, 2024 10:45:09 GMT -5
I don’t for me Duran was/is a walking red flag He is a very poor mans Carl Crawford but with worse k rates and defense. Crawford fell off a cliff at 28-29. Duran doesn’t have much of a cliff to fall off other than what looks like a significant outlier year Yeah I’d much prefer he is the player of last year as his norm but I’m not going to talk myself into that. Pappyman99 officially off the train. Duly noted. I am not sure Carl Crawford is a comp for anyone, though. That was a complete mental flamout as much as anything.
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Post by cdj on Apr 27, 2024 10:50:12 GMT -5
Duran Devers TON Abreu Wong Yoshida Valdez Dalbec Rafaela
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Post by cdj on Apr 27, 2024 10:52:24 GMT -5
I don’t for me Duran was/is a walking red flag He is a very poor mans Carl Crawford but with worse k rates and defense. Crawford fell off a cliff at 28-29. Duran doesn’t have much of a cliff to fall off other than what looks like a significant outlier year Yeah I’d much prefer he is the player of last year as his norm but I’m not going to talk myself into that. Pappyman99 officially off the train. Duly noted. I am not sure Carl Crawford is a comp for anyone, though. That was a complete mental flamout as much as anything. Yeah Duran is wired very differently, if anything I worry about him being too hard on himself as opposed to being apathetic (which is how I viewed Crawford)
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Post by asm18 on Apr 27, 2024 11:06:32 GMT -5
Duran Devers TON Abreu Wong Yoshida Valdez Dalbec Rafaela Career in MLB: Vaughn Grissom: 236 plate appearances - .287/.339/.407 - 107 wRC+ Enmanuel Valdez: 233 plate appearances - .223/.264/.386 - 71 wRC+ Please stay upright for two more days in Toledo, Vaughn 🤞
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Post by 0ap0 on Apr 27, 2024 11:15:47 GMT -5
I don’t get the Bobby D. thing with this team. I seen enough of this guy for the rest of my life. Oh, I don't know. I think I might enjoy him as a color commentator at some point. Maybe some point sooner than later?
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Post by asm18 on Apr 27, 2024 11:46:31 GMT -5
Presented without comment
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Post by incandenza on Apr 27, 2024 11:59:24 GMT -5
I don’t for me Duran was/is a walking red flag He is a very poor mans Carl Crawford but with worse k rates and defense. Crawford fell off a cliff at 28-29. Duran doesn’t have much of a cliff to fall off other than what looks like a significant outlier year Yeah I’d much prefer he is the player of last year as his norm but I’m not going to talk myself into that. His PA by year are:
2021: 112 2022: 223 2023: 362 2024: 126
I don't get the logic of taking the biggest sample of these and treating it as the outlier (and not, say, the first 300 PAs of his career, when very few hitters are a finished product).
As it is, he's on pace for a 3 WAR season this year, even with an 88 wRC+, thanks to his miraculously good defense. And that's without correcting for his underperforming his xwOBA to date.
I guess, too, "poor man's Carl Crawford" doesn't sound too bad, given that he had a 40 WAR career.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 27, 2024 12:07:31 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 27, 2024 12:34:54 GMT -5
Cora just said that they decided Yoshida is DH-only in the offseason
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 27, 2024 12:39:17 GMT -5
Cora said they decided Yoshida is DH-only in the offseason This just feels like a weirdly strict policy. Yeah he’s bad but not like unplayable bad in left. I get it as the plan but being unwilling to divert from it to the point that you’re consistently starting a guy with like a negative 50 wRC+ feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Post by terriblehondo on Apr 27, 2024 12:52:47 GMT -5
Cora said they decided Yoshida is DH-only in the offseason This just feels like a weirdly strict policy. Yeah he’s bad but not like unplayable bad in left. I get it as the plan but being unwilling to divert from it to the point that you’re consistently starting a guy with like a negative 50 wRC+ feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. So which outfielder are you sitting for him to have playing time?
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Post by asm18 on Apr 27, 2024 12:54:10 GMT -5
Cora just said that they decided Yoshida is DH-only in the offseason Breslow in early November on the DH question: “On a high level, we’d probably look to give Alex as much flexibility as possible recognizing that it’s a long season and there will be times when he’s going to look to get guys off their feat but keep their bats in the lineup. I don’t think there’s one way to do it. Obviously, I played with a guy who manned the DH spot for quite some time and was pretty successful doing it. Short of that, having as many kind of creative possibilities as we can arrange is what makes sense.” Maybe someone ask Craig about Yoshida, because their current set-up is not what he originally suggested - and it sure sounds like it might not be Cora’s call…
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 27, 2024 13:02:14 GMT -5
This just feels like a weirdly strict policy. Yeah he’s bad but not like unplayable bad in left. I get it as the plan but being unwilling to divert from it to the point that you’re consistently starting a guy with like a negative 50 wRC+ feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face. So which outfielder are you sitting for him to have playing time? none of them you are sitting Bobby Dalbec
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 27, 2024 13:03:40 GMT -5
Breslow has quickly established a track record such that you can safely ignore everything he says publicly
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Post by incandenza on Apr 27, 2024 13:22:36 GMT -5
Breslow has quickly established a track record such that you can safely ignore everything he says publicly People said Bloom was opaque, but I always found him to be pretty clear and forthright, maybe to a fault at times. It's been a very different story with Breslow.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 27, 2024 13:39:53 GMT -5
Breslow has quickly established a track record such that you can safely ignore everything he says publicly People said Bloom was opaque, but I always found him to be pretty clear and forthright, maybe to a fault at times. It's been a very different story with Breslow. Maybe that’s a smart strategy in that Bloom was speaking with the media pretty routinely, but aside from some beat writers saying he was a nice guy on his way out the door, I’m not sure that did him any favors. But in this Masa situation you have a lame duck manager and a brand new Chief Baseball Officer - who given the circumstances leading up to his hiring probably has pretty good job security the next few years short of murdering somebody. Instead of letting Cora take the heat to the point where people think he has a personal vendetta against Yoshida, maybe either 1) acknowledge that Yoshida DH’ing only is a group decision if that’s the case, and/or 2) come out with some cliche GM line about not second-guessing your manager. Because right now Cora is the only one taking shit for it.
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Post by melvinhoggs on Apr 27, 2024 13:58:34 GMT -5
People said Bloom was opaque, but I always found him to be pretty clear and forthright, maybe to a fault at times. It's been a very different story with Breslow. Maybe that’s a smart strategy in that Bloom was speaking with the media pretty routinely, but aside from some beat writers saying he was a nice guy on his way out the door, I’m not sure that did him any favors. But in this Masa situation you have a lame duck manager and a brand new Chief Baseball Officer - who given the circumstances leading up to his hiring probably has pretty good job security the next few years short of murdering somebody. Instead of letting Cora take the heat to the point where people think he has a personal vendetta against Yoshida, maybe either 1) acknowledge that Yoshida DH’ing only is a group decision if that’s the case, and/or 2) come out with some cliche GM line about not second-guessing your manager. Because right now Cora is the only one taking shit for it. But why do that? And why do people care so much about a front office that plays things close to the vest? Option #1 is basically coming out and publicly trashing one of your players. You can phrase it in a "nice" way, but you're basically saying "we came together and decided Yoshida's defense is almost unplayable, and his bat isn't good enough to go out of our way to ensure he's in the lineup". And option #2 is just more front office platitudes – do people seriously want more of that? The manager takes heat when the team performs poorly on a day-to-day basis. The front office takes heat when signings are bad or when trades go awry. It's just how it goes. Whatever number crunching they're doing in the new regime might say the defensive downgrade at two positions isn't worth getting Yoshida in the lineup, which I know many people on here (myself included) disagree with, but it still might be how they see it. It could be a (to quote Moneyball) "Just tell me, do you project we'll win more games with Pena or Hatteberg on first?" situation and they're sticking to their guns about it.
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