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Post by ramireja on May 17, 2024 10:43:39 GMT -5
5/17 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 4-1, 3.13, 31.2 IP, 27K:9BB) @ Cardinals (RHP Kyle Gibson, 2-2, 3.67, 49.0 IP, 40K:20BB) 8:15 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/18 Red Sox (RHP Kutter Crawford, 2-2, 2.24, 52.1 IP, 52K:16BB) @ Cardinals (RHP Miles Mikolas, 3-5, 6.19, 48.0 IP, 35K:10BB) 7:15 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/19 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 1-2, 3.48, 20.2 IP, 22K:2BB) @ Cardinals (TBD) 1:05 pm ET, Roku/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by asm18 on May 17, 2024 10:48:56 GMT -5
Brayan Bello gets to pitch on his 25th birthday today! Even better, it's a night game
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Post by julyanmorley on May 17, 2024 10:56:09 GMT -5
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Post by jbuttah on May 17, 2024 11:16:24 GMT -5
Welp, someone hired Cherington so someone was bound to hire Bloom, even sans WS ring.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 17, 2024 11:24:17 GMT -5
I don't want to get into any sort of back and forth in regards to Bloom so I'll just say I do think he deserves another shot somewhere else and figured he would get one eventually. I figured it might be a few years down the road after he spent some time underneath a veteran POBO type so if it is indeed come in 2025 that would be sooner than I would figure.
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Post by incandenza on May 17, 2024 11:30:08 GMT -5
Welp, someone hired Cherington so someone was bound to hire Bloom, even sans WS ring. This is the funny thing about the argument that no one wanted to take the Red Sox top job after Bloom was fired because they'd just be fired themselves after a few years: there is no better qualification for being hired to run another organization than having been fired by the Red Sox. Duquette, Epstein, Cherington, and Dombrowski all landed on their feet, and looks like Bloom will too. |
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Post by asm18 on May 17, 2024 11:33:09 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 17, 2024 11:44:50 GMT -5
We got swept by these guys at Fenway last year (I hate you Kenley) and I would very much like to return them the favor although Kyle Gibson, for whatever reason morph into a Cy Young candidate every time he faces the Red Sox.
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Post by rhswanzey on May 17, 2024 13:02:55 GMT -5
What else does this guy have to do to be considered part of the core going forward, instead of a trade chip to accommodate other players fitting on the roster |
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Post by greenmonster on May 17, 2024 13:20:42 GMT -5
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 17, 2024 13:51:02 GMT -5
The Red Sox are 3-11 against TB, Bal, and Cle, and 19-11 against the rest of the MLB so far this season. They are beating team worse than them and narrowly loosing to teams better. Whitlock, Casas, and Yoshida will help the pitching with depth, and hopefully increase the run support.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 17, 2024 13:54:41 GMT -5
Duran running wild at like 83% success rate is only worth a few runs over the course of the entire season. I am on board with him him picking spots to only run against easy catchers and in high leverage spots
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on May 17, 2024 14:03:29 GMT -5
What else does this guy have to do to be considered part of the core going forward, instead of a trade chip to accommodate other players fitting on the roster Agreed, I hope he is extended and remains the Red Sox CF for a long time. Rafaela may be the SS or 2B for another year or two depending on Story’s health and Grissom’s bat. |
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Post by incandenza on May 17, 2024 14:06:50 GMT -5
Complete list of Cardinals players with a >100 wRC+:
Contreras 171 (injured)
Burleson 119
Herrera 112
Winn 105
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Post by kevfc89 on May 17, 2024 14:20:36 GMT -5
Duran is also a slight tick slower this year, which can make all the difference in success rate and being worth the risk to steal more often. His statcast sprint speed was 29.5 ft/s last year to 29.1 ft/s this year.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 17, 2024 14:37:51 GMT -5
I would be pro no players having the green light on the bases and the coaches always making an analytically based decision on whether they should try to steal in a given spot or not
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Post by rhswanzey on May 17, 2024 14:43:11 GMT -5
It’s not the thing he does best. He’s tied for the best defensive outfielder in baseball, he’s been our best clutch hitter this season, and he’s actually our best hitter by wRC+ since the Cubs series last month. He is a wildly valuable player even with more modest stolen base totals because he is still a net positive on non stolen base running, defense and offense, while leading off every single day. |
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Post by kevfc89 on May 17, 2024 14:53:37 GMT -5
Many fairly wondered whether what Duran was doing was sustainable last year based on his under the hood stats. A 120 wRC+ but a much lower xwOBA than actual wOBA. This year he is near the same wRC+ number, but is actually slightly underperforming his xwOBA. His xwOBA was .319 last year and it's .354 right now.
His walk rate is up, his strikeouts are down, his ISO is trending up again recently (with his exit velocities and hard contact, that has a real chance for further improvement too if he can lift the ball more). Season to date it appears he's had a real skill boost in his offensive game, and a big one in his defensive game. He's becoming an extremely valuable player if even a few of these things keep up.
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Post by costpet on May 17, 2024 14:54:29 GMT -5
Bobby Bombs is going crazy again in AAA. Maybe they should call him up. (ducks missiles)
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Post by ematz1423 on May 17, 2024 14:59:27 GMT -5
If Duran's defensive #s so far this season are sustainable then it makes me wonder what role Rafaela would have with the team going forward? If Duran is now a very good defensive CFer then does Rafaela get that much PT in CF? Rafaela's bat doesn't seem like it is ever going to be good enough to be an every day COF.
Makes me think Rafaela's best role the next few years is going to be as a super utility guy which still offers value but makes me sour even more on that extension that I already at the time was scratching my head figuring it was an unnecessary move.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 17, 2024 15:26:36 GMT -5
Hamilton starting tonight @ SS when the team has Romy is literally mind boggling (even if it’s a RH SP).
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Post by julyanmorley on May 17, 2024 15:56:58 GMT -5
FREE ROMY
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Post by greenmonster on May 17, 2024 16:14:15 GMT -5
Duran running wild at like 83% success rate is only worth a few runs over the course of the entire season. I am on board with him him picking spots to only run against easy catchers and in high leverage spots While I understand your point, the conversation that Speier is referencing (no actual date) supposedly took place after the first week of the season. At that time Duran was 6 for 6 (100%) in stolen bases. Since then he is 3 for 5. I think that Duran's speed/hustle/aggressiveness is his best asset. That's not to say I don't think he is a good player when playing more conservatively. In fact he is the player I most enjoy watching on this team....Proud passenger on the Duran Train |
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Post by bosoxnation on May 17, 2024 16:31:21 GMT -5
If Duran's defensive #s so far this season are sustainable then it makes me wonder what role Rafaela would have with the team going forward? If Duran is now a very good defensive CFer then does Rafaela get that much PT in CF? Rafaela's bat doesn't seem like it is ever going to be good enough to be an every day COF. Makes me think Rafaela's best role the next few years is going to be as a super utility guy which still offers value but makes me sour even more on that extension that I already at the time was scratching my head figuring it was an unnecessary move. This is exactly what i said in the thread yesterday. Why did we rush to extend him with no role for the long term, and more importantly NO MLB SUCCESS. We have a guy like Rob making 2 mill and someone like Romy making combined less then him with way more value. With Mayer and Roman coming up in then next 2 years and an crowded outfield why not take that 50 million and throw it at Casas on top of what we already offered him to make sure he's here forever. Or Tanner. I guess to me paying that much for a utility player makes no sense but to others it does. I understand Bello of course. Tanner and Casas deals would be most important. I know it takes 2 to tango but add 30 mill to what we offered Casas and 20 to Tanner to get them done. If he's had some MLB success i would say hey maybe we trade him and that contract becomes super valuable. I just hope he turns it around because from the stats i see he's bottom 50 player in the whole league. |
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Post by scottysmalls on May 17, 2024 17:27:30 GMT -5
If Duran's defensive #s so far this season are sustainable then it makes me wonder what role Rafaela would have with the team going forward? If Duran is now a very good defensive CFer then does Rafaela get that much PT in CF? Rafaela's bat doesn't seem like it is ever going to be good enough to be an every day COF. Makes me think Rafaela's best role the next few years is going to be as a super utility guy which still offers value but makes me sour even more on that extension that I already at the time was scratching my head figuring it was an unnecessary move. This is exactly what i said in the thread yesterday. Why did we rush to extend him with no role for the long term, and more importantly NO MLB SUCCESS. We have a guy like Rob making 2 mill and someone like Romy making combined less then him with way more value. With Mayer and Roman coming up in then next 2 years and an crowded outfield why not take that 50 million and throw it at Casas on top of what we already offered him to make sure he's here forever. Or Tanner. I guess to me paying that much for a utility player makes no sense but to others it does. I understand Bello of course. Tanner and Casas deals would be most important. I know it takes 2 to tango but add 30 mill to what we offered Casas and 20 to Tanner to get them done. If he's had some MLB success i would say hey maybe we trade him and that contract becomes super valuable. I just hope he turns it around because from the stats i see he's bottom 50 player in the whole league. Man weren't you also ready to abandon Casas in May last year? I'm not saying this to pick on you, but just as a reminder that prospect's paths aren't linear and success doesn't always happen immediately. If Rafaela is the player we hope he can be and the Red Sox seem to expect him to be he's going to be worth the deal. As far as this hypothetical log jam, it's unlikely to materialize but if it does then they have a good problem of deciding which asset to trade. |
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