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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 13, 2013 20:50:31 GMT -5
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Post by jonasi on May 14, 2013 10:11:52 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on May 14, 2013 18:35:29 GMT -5
Greenville leads 1-0...OK, it's in the first but it is a lead and the opposing pitcher looks like no great shakes (think he had a 4.37 ERA in the Pioneer League).
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 18:53:11 GMT -5
The box score says Austin Maddox is pitching for Greenville, FYI.
Webster with 3 baserunners (2 BB, 1 H) in 3 IP.
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 14, 2013 19:00:19 GMT -5
The box score says Austin Maddox is pitching for Greenville, FYI. Webster with 3 baserunners (2 BB, 1 H) in 3 IP. Nice line so far for Webster Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Allen Webster 3.0 1 0 0 2 2 0 2.35 Hopefully this will get his confidence back |
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 19:45:39 GMT -5
I'm not as encouraged by Webster's line tonight. The command was what had him as a mid-back rotation starter last year. 5IP, 5K, 3H, 1R all look nice, but 4BB is a lot. It's a lot easier to around hitters in AAA, but those walks will make him pitch back in the middle of the plate, and last MLB start, that ended badly.
That said, without an in-person report, it's just conjecture and guessing on how seriously to take the walks. Hopefully he can continue to work on whatever fix he had going on in the Spring.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 19:46:19 GMT -5
If someone can say he got squeezed, or was trying something out or bad weather, or whatever, I'd feel a lot better.
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Post by charliezink16 on May 14, 2013 19:55:25 GMT -5
Before anyone asks...
@evanlepler: Another scare for Garin Cecchini: In pursuit of a lazy pop in foul territory,came up limping. Walked off under own power, but left game.
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Post by redsoxnut on May 14, 2013 19:56:44 GMT -5
Anyone know why Cecchini was pulled out of the game?
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Post by Guidas on May 14, 2013 20:17:49 GMT -5
If someone can say he got squeezed, or was trying something out or bad weather, or whatever, I'd feel a lot better. How about if someone says the control problems that have accompanied him his whole career haven't really been "fixed"? |
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 20:36:01 GMT -5
"How about if someone says the control problems that have accompanied him his whole career haven't really been "fixed"?"
Nooooo, the logical answer can't be it. Webster is a future ace!!! If he can get his BB rate down towards 3 this season, that'll be an encouraging start. 3.5/4.2 the last two years. He has the stuff to challenge hitters if he can hit location and work more with the sinker. 2.7 BB/9 isn't so bad this year, tonight notwithstanding.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 14, 2013 21:40:18 GMT -5
"How about if someone says the control problems that have accompanied him his whole career haven't really been "fixed"?" Nooooo, the logical answer can't be it. Webster is a future ace!!! If he can get his BB rate down towards 3 this season, that'll be an encouraging start. 3.5/4.2 the last two years. He has the stuff to challenge hitters if he can hit location and work more with the sinker. 2.7 BB/9 isn't so bad this year, tonight notwithstanding. I hope that you are right. SoxProspects has him as a potential 3 man in the rotation if he can get better control but, if not, a bullpen arm. |
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Post by capecodda on May 14, 2013 23:09:41 GMT -5
Webster did struggled to hit his spots tonight. he even had trouble spotting his fastball which isn't a good sign at all.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 23:17:44 GMT -5
Webster is really young to pitching still... I think he's shown too much ability to at least temporarily fix his command to end up like Andrew Miller or something.
By comparison, another fringe rotation-bullpen arm, Doubrant has 4.5 BB/9 this year at MLB; 3.9, 3.7, 3.0 over his last 3 seasons in the minors (though 120/80/77 IP those years).
Lester was always 3.7+ in the minors, and then spiked to 4.4/4.8 in his first couple MLB years, and has been 2.6-3.5 since.
Basically my convoluted non-point is that the BBs are still concerning, and will go a long way to make Webster a #2 vs. a #5 SP, but he's no further away than anyone else and it's common for BB rates to spike in the first few years in MLB. He seems like the kind of pitcher that will have some growing pains, but we really won't know who he is for 3+ years.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 14, 2013 23:26:12 GMT -5
Andrew Miller: 5.1 BB/9 (AA) 6.4 BB/9 (AAA). 5.3 in the Majors.
I'm a little surprised at how well most pitchers (eg Lester) have been able to improve control as they develop, into the majors. I have a hard time seeing Webster not making it at least as a back of the rotation guy.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 15, 2013 6:26:29 GMT -5
Andrew Miller: 5.1 BB/9 (AA) 6.4 BB/9 (AAA). 5.3 in the Majors. I'm a little surprised at how well most pitchers (eg Lester) have been able to improve control as they develop, into the majors. I have a hard time seeing Webster not making it at least as a back of the rotation guy. All well and good....but we need top of the rotation guys. Will he be better than Dempster, Doubront or Lackey?...and we sure will be in need of some thumpers too. Take Papi out of the lineup and we are nowhere. |
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