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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 14:38:53 GMT -5
Ross activated, Lavarnway sent down, WMB and Shane-O to the DL.
Iggy playing 3B tonight.
Discuss.
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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 14:42:53 GMT -5
One has to wonder whether a JBJ promotion (for Wilson) may be coming. Without Shane-O, there's no backup to Ellsbury in CF (and don't say Ciriaco).
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Post by mainesox on May 24, 2013 14:44:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's a little odd to move Iggy off of SS and leave Drew there? I mean, Drew isn't a bad defensive SS by any means, but Iglesias is a truly elite defender there, and I think the best defensive alignment is without question Iggy at SS and Drew at 3B.
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Post by okin15 on May 24, 2013 14:45:48 GMT -5
They don't need a CF backup unless Ells gets hurt. Ciriaco could do that kind of emergency duty. Still, I can't imagine the Sox go with a 3-man bench for very long. They're probably looking for a replacement level RHH OF who can play a little CF and RF and hit his weight.
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Post by ray88h66 on May 24, 2013 14:46:37 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's a little odd to move Iggy off of SS and leave Drew there? I mean, Drew isn't a bad defensive SS by any means, but Iglesias is a truly elite defender there, and I think the best defensive alignment is without question Iggy at SS and Drew at 3B.[/b] That's what I'd do but I'm glad to see Iglesias back. |
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Post by chavopepe2 on May 24, 2013 14:49:00 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's a little odd to move Iggy off of SS and leave Drew there? I mean, Drew isn't a bad defensive SS by any means, but Iglesias is a truly elite defender there, and I think the best defensive alignment is without question Iggy at SS and Drew at 3B. You're not the only one. It is border-line negligent to play Drew at SS and Iggy at 3B in my opinion. |
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Post by mainesox on May 24, 2013 14:50:44 GMT -5
They don't need a CF backup unless Ells gets hurt. Ciriaco could do that kind of emergency duty. Still, I can't imagine the Sox go with a 3-man bench for very long. They're probably looking for a replacement level RHH OF who can play a little CF and RF and hit his weight. It would take a corresponding move to get him on the 40 man (DFA Ciriaco?), but I think Justin Henry is the most logical option right now. |
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Post by sibbysisti on May 24, 2013 15:06:12 GMT -5
Whose spot is Aceves taking? Probably just a one day fix. Something up with Wilson or Mortensen?
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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 15:15:21 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's a little odd to move Iggy off of SS and leave Drew there? I mean, Drew isn't a bad defensive SS by any means, but Iglesias is a truly elite defender there, and I think the best defensive alignment is without question Iggy at SS and Drew at 3B. You're not the only one. It is border-line negligent to play Drew at SS and Iggy at 3B in my opinion. That's ridiculous. Drew has never played at 3B. Iglesias is much more likely to make the adjustment than Drew in the short term. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 15:19:06 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's a little odd to move Iggy off of SS and leave Drew there? I mean, Drew isn't a bad defensive SS by any means, but Iglesias is a truly elite defender there, and I think the best defensive alignment is without question Iggy at SS and Drew at 3B. You're not the only one. It is border-line negligent to play Drew at SS and Iggy at 3B in my opinion. I think this is a case of not wanting to have to force a veteran player from his position to accommodate a much less experienced player. It may sound stupid, but there are reasons for it and those reasons do promote winning. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 15:24:09 GMT -5
They don't need a CF backup unless Ells gets hurt. Ciriaco could do that kind of emergency duty. Still, I can't imagine the Sox go with a 3-man bench for very long. They're probably looking for a replacement level RHH OF who can play a little CF and RF and hit his weight. I am with you. The world will not end if Ciriaco has to play CF for a few innings. If Ells was hurt during a game they could always make a move the next day. |
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Post by ray88h66 on May 24, 2013 15:36:34 GMT -5
There's also the possibility that Drew was asked to play third and said no.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 24, 2013 15:54:52 GMT -5
You're not the only one. It is border-line negligent to play Drew at SS and Iggy at 3B in my opinion. I think this is a case of not wanting to have to force a veteran player from his position to accommodate a much less experienced player. It may sound stupid, but ]there are reasons for it and those reasons do promote winning.Please elaborate. |
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Post by mainesox on May 24, 2013 15:55:49 GMT -5
You're not the only one. It is border-line negligent to play Drew at SS and Iggy at 3B in my opinion. That's ridiculous. Drew has never played at 3B. Iglesias is much more likely to make the adjustment than Drew in the short term. A couple days ago Iglesias had never played third either. |
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Post by jrffam05 on May 24, 2013 16:04:07 GMT -5
I really don't get it. I think the only reason for it is for respect for drew, but it still doesn't justify it for me. I was against Bradley not playing cf when he was in Boston, but this is worse. Basically all of iglesias value is in his defense, and you take away by not having him at ss. I am still firm in believing iglesias is a MLB starting ss despite how bad a hitter, I think he is that good defensively.
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Post by sdiaz1 on May 24, 2013 16:13:17 GMT -5
I don't believe that Iglesias playing at third is anything other than the Sox coaching staff truly thinking that his skills defensively at short should translate better at third than Drew's. For instance they may view Iglesias as having the better arm and quicker reflexes of the two, which will make up for any unfamiliarty with the position.
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Post by ikonos on May 24, 2013 16:34:18 GMT -5
Its also possible that they want Iggy to get used to playing at 3B and 2B along with SS as a super sub which most likely is his quickest path to stick in Majors. He wants to be in Majors and he probably is ok with that path.
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Post by ray88h66 on May 24, 2013 16:40:08 GMT -5
Its also possible that they want Iggy to get used to playing at 3B and 2B along with SS as a super sub which most likely is his quickest path to stick in Majors. He wants to be in Majors and he probably is ok with that path. Good point. |
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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 17:10:13 GMT -5
There's also the possibility that Drew was asked to play third and said no. I'm sure, if asked, he would have said yes. But that's not up to him, so let's not insinuate that somehow the players are now dictating their playing positions on the field. I agree with sdiaz1's analysis. |
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Post by ray88h66 on May 24, 2013 17:25:32 GMT -5
There's also the possibility that Drew was asked to play third and said no. I'm sure, if asked, he would have said yes. But that's not up to him, so let's not insinuate that somehow the players are now dictating their playing positions on the field. I agree with sdiaz1's analysis. Carlton Fisk was moved to left by the whitesox, after a few games he refused to play left anymore, yes it does happen. |
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Post by blumj on May 24, 2013 17:47:02 GMT -5
Remember, it hasn't been that long since Drew mised some games with his own sore back, asking him to play 3rd right now would practically be inviting another injury.
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Post by danr on May 24, 2013 18:07:19 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on May 24, 2013 18:11:33 GMT -5
Remember, it hasn't been that long since Drew mised some games with his own sore back, asking him to play 3rd right now would practically be inviting another injury. I'd rather field 8 players with igelsias at short and drew as a second DH. Obviously I'm being over dramatic to prove my point. I just think from a baseball perspective it's a no brainer. Iglesias might be the best defensive shortstop alive, or very close to it. With todays lineup the most effective defense we could put out there is iggy at ss drew at third. We're here to win ball games. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2013 19:19:24 GMT -5
Iglesias has only started one game at 3B, but he has at least been taking grounders there for a couple weeks now. 2B as well.
Wouldn't surprise me if Drew has literally never taken a ground ball at third base.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 24, 2013 22:19:03 GMT -5
It's possible they wanted to see how Iglesias did at 3rd before DFA'ing Ciriaco. Which is the imminent move I expect with a JBJ call up soon ( as in tomorrow or Sunday ).
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