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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 8, 2013 9:04:19 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 8, 2013 9:26:03 GMT -5
Not sure when this list was finalized, but there's a pretty good chance Garin is higher on the end of year list.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 8, 2013 9:27:40 GMT -5
some Serious disagreement about Ranaudo (compared to BP iirc). I like it.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 8, 2013 9:44:08 GMT -5
From their comments, it's clear that BA sees a high ceiling in Ranuado.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 8, 2013 9:57:58 GMT -5
So, at least 6 in top 100 if those two just missed top 50 ... I think Swihart would merit some consideration, also, as well as Webster if he's still eligible. Iglesias has graduated.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 8, 2013 10:17:27 GMT -5
Love reading these, although I know we shouldn't put much faith in how our prospects are ranked. No 2013 draftees on this list. Bryant, Gray, Appel, and possibly Fraizer/Stewart could be top 50 status.
I don't think it is a stretch to say we have a top 5 farm system. I would say Astro's and Twins are easily determined to be better, and the Cardinals, depending how you define what players make up the farm system, should have us beat, but besides that I don't think there is another team that is clearly better than ours.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 8, 2013 10:18:14 GMT -5
I believe Webster did not qualify for the list because he is in the majors.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 8, 2013 10:18:54 GMT -5
Did Webster not make it because he's currently in the majors?
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 8, 2013 10:27:57 GMT -5
Pretty good system imo.
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Post by njsox on Jul 8, 2013 10:44:53 GMT -5
I know that #4 is incredible and I am probably biased but feel like Bogaerts really isn't getting credit for his production at advanced levels as well as the fact that he is playing a decent SS right now. Writers seem to be obsessed with the fact that he is going to move off of short, but with his plus athleticism he he should be a plus defender wherever he moves if and when that happens. I definitely would have him above Taveras at the moment who has struggled mightily against lefties in the PCL, which raises a huge red flag for a lefty hitter until they prove they can be effective against lefties. I see how Buxton and Sano look like "sexier" prospects at the moment, but that's where Bogaerts' advanced level and proven ability to make adjustments really come into the equation. I know that these rankings really mean very little and that 1-4 this year really could be interchangeable, but in my extremely biased opinion I take Bogaerts over anyone of these guys.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 8, 2013 11:12:13 GMT -5
I know that #4 is incredible and I am probably biased but feel like Bogaerts really isn't getting credit for his production at advanced levels as well as the fact that he is playing a decent SS right now. Writers seem to be obsessed with the fact that he is going to move off of short, but with his plus athleticism he he should be a plus defender wherever he moves if and when that happens. I definitely would have him above Taveras at the moment who has struggled mightily against lefties in the PCL, which raises a huge red flag for a lefty hitter until they prove they can be effective against lefties. I see how Buxton and Sano look like "sexier" prospects at the moment, but that's where Bogaerts' advanced level and proven ability to make adjustments really come into the equation. I know that these rankings really mean very little and that 1-4 this year really could be interchangeable, but in my extremely biased opinion I take Bogaerts over anyone of these guys. Buxton is the truth, but I would easily take the X Factor over Sano. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 8, 2013 12:42:35 GMT -5
I know that #4 is incredible and I am probably biased but feel like Bogaerts really isn't getting credit for his production at advanced levels as well as the fact that he is playing a decent SS right now. Writers seem to be obsessed with the fact that he is going to move off of short, but with his plus athleticism he he should be a plus defender wherever he moves if and when that happens. I definitely would have him above Taveras at the moment who has struggled mightily against lefties in the PCL, which raises a huge red flag for a lefty hitter until they prove they can be effective against lefties. I see how Buxton and Sano look like "sexier" prospects at the moment, but that's where Bogaerts' advanced level and proven ability to make adjustments really come into the equation. I know that these rankings really mean very little and that 1-4 this year really could be interchangeable, but in my extremely biased opinion I take Bogaerts over anyone of these guys. Buxton is the truth, but I would easily take the X Factor over Sano. I don't think arguing prospects rankings is productive at all (but I'll take a shot at it), questions such as Floor vs ceiling, age, level, position all come into play. I think Buxton is the better long term prospect, having a higher floor and ceiling than Bogaerts. It would take him a lot to reach AAA at the same age Bogaerts has. Bogaerts, if he stays at SS, is at the highest premium position. Industry would say Buxton is the better prospect, I think it is about even right now, until Buxton has a bigger sample size. His plate approach coming out of high school with the tools he has is a definite plus. |
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Post by curll on Jul 8, 2013 12:44:22 GMT -5
I dunno. Sano is a hitting machine. I don't think the mL scouts are holding him in such high regard out of protocol, he's produced. And I don't think he's being grossly overrated ala Jesus Montero (oh, the arguments about Jesus).
Sano looks to be more of a pure hitter, while Xandyman is looks like more of a complete baseball player.
Sano is a good bit younger than Xander and has been brought along a bit more slowly. 2013 is their age 20-season, but Sano will turn 21 next May.
Coin flip for me. I'd argue they are better prospects than Taveras at this juncture.
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Post by dewey1972 on Jul 8, 2013 12:56:10 GMT -5
Are the near misses listed in one of the articles behind the paywall?
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Post by jimoh on Jul 8, 2013 13:26:23 GMT -5
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 8, 2013 13:28:00 GMT -5
I believe Webster did not qualify for the list because he is in the majors. Yeah, I was more looking ahead to end-of-year lists ... As for Buxton v Bogaerts, except for the "woo-hoo, #1 baby!" factor, it really doesn't matter to me. I think of these things in tiers, and I'd be annoyed and argue if Bogaerts was, say, 12th, but 4th instead of 1st ... I'd be willing to bet, though, that Bradley has a better career than half the guys above him. |
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Post by taftreign on Jul 8, 2013 13:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 8, 2013 19:29:54 GMT -5
New rule: you can't be the third best prospect in baseball until you post a K rate below 25% at any level.
I mean, it'd be be one thing if he was like, Ozzie Smith or something but...
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Post by bluechip on Jul 9, 2013 10:12:45 GMT -5
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 9, 2013 11:27:51 GMT -5
Can you post something for us nonsubscribers?  |
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 9, 2013 13:09:25 GMT -5
Buxton is the truth, but I would easily take the X Factor over Sano. Is there a single area where Sano grades higher than Bogaerts, besides the power of course? Or, to move things away from homerism, who'd take Lindor over Sano? |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 9, 2013 13:24:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Fenway, you're such a "Red Sox prospects are always better and infallible" homer.
They do exist here, but you ain't one of them.
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