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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:38:10 GMT -5
And if Kenley gave it up Cora would have been roasted and for good reason As the late great Harry Caray was fond of saying, "If ifs and buts were candy & nuts, every day would be fricking* Christmas!" * added for effect. Results are ultimately what matters so good for them, but it was still stupid.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:34:36 GMT -5
And if Kenley gave it up Cora would have been roasted and for good reason
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -5
Alls well that ends well. Jansen isn't right but somehow got out of it.
Cora should have had Trout walked but he got away with it.
Guess 2 wrongs made a right.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:30:58 GMT -5
Why not just walk him?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:30:08 GMT -5
This should be interesting
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:29:16 GMT -5
Living on the edge.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:28:45 GMT -5
Where did the 2b go?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:27:37 GMT -5
Jansen isn't healthy and it shows. He'll have very limited trade value by July.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:26:54 GMT -5
This ain't going to end well. They were due for a 9th inning meltdown.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 15:24:38 GMT -5
Koji says, why the hate? I was awesome, not a washed up closer.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 8:43:02 GMT -5
I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over. They don’t have the luxury of waiting till mid 25. They need to sell tickets and the kids fill immediate needs I’d be stunned if all 3 aren’t up by July 1 this year, just for the business part of it. I would hope that's not how they decide things. If any of the Big 3 are smashing the door down, ok, but if they throw them to the wolves at the sacrifice of needed development time to get butts into the seats, and yes I get the fill the need part, that would be disappointing. I honestly dont think theyd resort to that, but at this point, who knows?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 14, 2024 0:30:22 GMT -5
I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over. I wouldn’t it put it past Anthony to push the issue for making the big league team in September if he keeps raking the way he is now. But agree on Mayer probably not coming up until sometime next year — he needs the reps after all the setbacks. Maybe Anthony gets a cup of coffee but I dont think he gets a starting job right away in 25 but yes, there's definitely a non zero possibility that he does, but he's absolutely have to rake to the point the Sox think they have a rookie of the year candidate in 25 to start at the beginning of the year.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 23:43:54 GMT -5
His batting line last year in Greenville and Portland was amazing and I'm confident that he'll be a really good major leaguer. But he still strikes out A LOT--30% in Greenville last year; the same in a very young 2024 season. No matter how hard he hits the ball, he's not going to carry a 400+ BABIP. He still has a lot of development to go. Opening day in 2025 seems overly optimistic. I'd be glad to be wrong. I think midyear 2025 is more realistic. Its not too hard to imagine a lot of mediocrity in 2024 and 2025 but eith the difference being we might see all 3 of Anthony, Mayer, and Teel getting their feet wet in the 2nd half of the 2025 season, kind of like how the back half of 1987 and 2015 went where youth started taking over.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 17:40:08 GMT -5
Woohoo. A neat win.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 17:28:41 GMT -5
These 4 and 5 inning starts are ridiculous. People made fun of "quality" starts because you could get a 4.5 ERA and get a quality start, but you have to complete 6 innings, which has become a rare thing and looks Herculean to what we see now. He was their 8th starter going into the season. I'll take it. I get it. It's just kind of crazy that 4 innings is considered an acceptable start, irregardless of who does it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 16:45:03 GMT -5
Boy, I'd have tried to steal another inning from Criswell rather than melting the pen for five innings. These 4 and 5 inning starts are ridiculous. People made fun of "quality" starts because you could get a 4.5 ERA and get a quality start, but you have to complete 6 innings, which has become a rare thing and looks Herculean to what we see now.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:53:18 GMT -5
The Sox are swinging the bats today.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:28:40 GMT -5
Of course too much speed can kill an inning too, lol.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:28:10 GMT -5
Speed kills. Screw exit velocity.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 15:18:54 GMT -5
Pablo Reyes getting a hell of a pass imho. Rough year so far. Eduardo Nunez 2.0 Without the World Series HR.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 11:19:24 GMT -5
Duran LF Abreu RF Yoshida DH Casas 1B Dalbec 3B Valdez 2B Rafaela CF McGuire C Hamilton SS Hahahaha Edit - Romy on IL for Criswell Look like a 90 win team to me, lol.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 8:45:41 GMT -5
True. They were under .500 from Sept 2011 thru 2015, but I liked that stretch, hell, let's call it 2013, better. The rest of it sucked. 2021 was nice but the 2 seasons prior and the 2 seasons after have been a slog and this season looks no different and if they do as little offseason as they did this year it'll be more slog until their young core establishes themselves which might take a few more years. A long period of mediocrity. I have higher standards for the team than that. Others might not. As they say YMMV, and that's fine as we all have differing levels of what we find acceptable. 2010-2015 makes for an interesting comp. Each stretch had one good season out of 6 (or 5); one okay season; and three lousy seasons. 2011 might have been the most excruciating of them all. But of course 2013 was a championship season in the middle of all that early-'10s muck. What's extraordinarily frustrating is that the team had graduated Mookie, Xander, JBJ, and Vazquez. They also had Pedroia, Lester, and Buchholz. And they still had the #1 farm system in the game in 2015. They seemed set up for a dynasty. And what we got was: 2016: 93-69 2017: 93-69 2018: 108-54 Three division championships with two good-not-great teams and one all-time great season. Yay for that, but that's kind of a sad payout from where they started at the beginning of that run. And it's been a slog punctuated by one very fun season ever since. Compare that to what the Dodgers or Astros have managed to do across the last 8+ seasons. That should have been attainable for the Red Sox, but a series of unforced errors (peppered by some bad luck) and lack of long-term thinking prevented it from happening.
The Sox played 2019 hung over and its like they pulled the plug on the 2016-2018 team. Rarely were moves continued to be made that made the team better. That along with a meh farm system out them where they are now. To your point it was a short summit. Still wouldn't trade 2018 though. Basically like a brief marriage to produce a spectacular kid. Wouldnt trade it for the world, yet that should have lasted longer. I think the defining event was the Mookie deal and that as far as I'll go with that. They are where they are and where they've been. Just hope that there is top notch talent brought in to coincide with the arrival of the next core. Right now when I think core (circa 2026-2027) these are the names I think of: Devers Casas Bello Rafaela Grissom Mayer Anthony Teel I'm hoping Bleis, Cespedes, and Campbell soon get thought of in that way, although they're further off. I really dont have much in the way of pitchers that make me think "part of the next core", at least not yet. I hope Fitts and Sandlin and others make me reconsider but I'm not there. Hope we dont have to wait until 2026 or 2027 to be truly competitive and I hope the core will be as good as the core the Sox had around 2018 or 2007. Of course I have little doubt that the Orioles core will be, which is a scary thought.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 7:02:55 GMT -5
I can’t call this rock bottom, because it looks like so much of what we’ve seen for five years. I’ll call this half decade the nadir of my sports fandom. I’ve never had a team that was so bad, so aimless, and so hard to enjoy. I’ve followed lovable bad teams. But this is a no charisma snooze since 2019. Imagine if they hadn't been over .500 over this stretch! True. They were under .500 from Sept 2011 thru 2015, but I liked that stretch, hell, let's call it 2013, better. The rest of it sucked. 2021 was nice but the 2 seasons prior and the 2 seasons after have been a slog and this season looks no different and if they do as little offseason as they did this year it'll be more slog until their young core establishes themselves which might take a few more years. A long period of mediocrity. I have higher standards for the team than that. Others might not. As they say YMMV, and that's fine as we all have differing levels of what we find acceptable.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 6:56:35 GMT -5
While it's not ideal, at this point I go with move Rafaela to SS and go with an O'Neill/Duran/Abreu outfield against righties.
Against lefties use Reyes at SS with Rafaela back in CF and Abreu on the bench. If Reyes cant even handle that then I'm not sure why he's on the roster.
Eventually Refsnyder returns as Abreu's platoon partner and Rafaela stays full time at SS. If Abreu struggles they could get a glove for SS and move Rafaela back to CF but at least you find out about Abreu.
As for 3b, if Raffy is out short term, its Dalbec. If long term, maybe Meidroth gets a real look.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 6:48:30 GMT -5
Surely Adalberto Mondesi is healthy by now, right? And if he was, how many minutes until he'd get injured again, lol?
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