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Post by Guidas on Jul 18, 2013 10:09:28 GMT -5
Four Red Sox prospects in Law's Top 50. (Insider Only). 3. Bogaerts, 20. Cecchini, 24. Bradley and 31. Owens. Swihart gets an honorable mention. A couple excerpts: 20. Garin Cecchini has just one plus tool, but it's the most important one for a position player -- he can hit, showing an impressive, innate ability to barrel up the ball throughout 2013 now that he's regained the strength he lost after a July 2011 wrist fracture. He hasn't been running as often this year after rolling his ankle in mid-May, but his base stealing was less about speed than about instincts, as he's become one of the best readers of pitchers' deliveries in the minors. 31. Henry Owens' fastball has ticked up this year to consistently above-average velocity for a lefty, to go along with the plus changeup, slow curveball and great deception. His main issue now is just a lack of strikes, giving hitters opportunities they wouldn't have if he were getting ahead in the count more frequently and could use his secondary stuff. He's probably a No. 3 starter, maybe a little more if he's got more velocity in the tank.
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Post by jdb on Jul 18, 2013 10:12:28 GMT -5
3 Xander 20 Cecchini 24 JBJ 31 Ownens
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Jul 18, 2013 10:23:08 GMT -5
Kind of surprised that Owens made it and not Ranaudo, but good for him! Get the kid up to AA!
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jul 18, 2013 10:45:53 GMT -5
Looks very reasonable.
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Post by nothingball on Jul 18, 2013 11:12:06 GMT -5
Which is suprising for KLaw article. I do love his writeup of his #49 ranked prospect: Gary Sanchez. He basically appologizes to the MFY prospects that he can't rank higher because they have all been hurt or underperformed... Throwing the org he is most bias towards a bone I suppose.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 18, 2013 11:13:48 GMT -5
Law frequently trashes the Yankees.
He liked Mason Williams a lot, but he was hardly alone there.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 18, 2013 11:14:02 GMT -5
Law is very bullish on the younger Red Sox, would many of us have place Cecchini at 20?
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Post by jimoh on Jul 18, 2013 11:31:27 GMT -5
Six sox on sickels semi season 76 XB 2 Jb 20 Gc 30ish and he kicks himself for not sticking to his original b+ grade Ranaudo Webster Owens
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 18, 2013 11:46:28 GMT -5
Which is suprising for KLaw article. I do love his writeup of his #49 ranked prospect: Gary Sanchez. He basically appologizes to the MFY prospects that he can't rank higher because they have all been hurt or underperformed... Throwing the org he is most bias towards a bone I suppose. Grow up, seriously.
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Post by bjb406 on Jul 18, 2013 13:07:27 GMT -5
Law says he "still" sees no reason Bogaerts can't stay at short. Correct me if I am misremembering, but wasn't he the loudest one saying exactly the opposite like a year ago?
edit: that said, looks like he did a decent job, agreed with most of the comments I read.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 18, 2013 13:19:28 GMT -5
Law says he "still" sees no reason Bogaerts can't stay at short. Correct me if I am misremembering, but wasn't he the loudest one saying exactly the opposite like a year ago? Law had scouted Bogaerts and then said that he thought Xander was a short stop.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 18, 2013 13:22:59 GMT -5
Law did exactly what a scout/analyst should do. Two years ago he didn't think he would stick at short and other scouts told him the same thing so that is what he projected. Last year he saw significant improvement and heard the same thing from other scouts so he changed his projection. His projection is the same this year as last.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 18, 2013 14:07:32 GMT -5
Reading this ranking gives me a little confidence in my statement that I would personally have Cecchini as the #2 prospect over JB Jr posted in another thread a few days back. Good to know I'm not alone on this one. Although I am a little surprised Owens was the next prospect on his board. Not surprising to an extent on Barnes who is working through some issues but am I to assume Webster and De La Rosa weren't eligible or that he doesn't see their ceiling as high. Clearly he would like to see more from Ranaudo and may have been a little influenced by his in person viewing at the AA All-Star game and Futures game.
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Post by nothingball on Jul 18, 2013 14:27:57 GMT -5
Which is suprising for KLaw article. I do love his writeup of his #49 ranked prospect: Gary Sanchez. He basically appologizes to the MFY prospects that he can't rank higher because they have all been hurt or underperformed... Throwing the org he is most bias towards a bone I suppose. Grow up, seriously. Grow, less serious? Life is short.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jul 18, 2013 14:36:37 GMT -5
He's saying that accusing Law or any writer of bias is silly and childish. Which it is. He didn't rank Sanchez where he did because he's a big Yankee fan, he did it because he believes Sanchez is the 49th best prospect in baseball. Aside from that, this is the first list I remember being as high on Owens as we are around here. Pretty good news for us Owens fans, along with this great writeup from today's Minor League Roundup: The writers also go in to Owens trade value, which I thought was a very succinct (with the exception of one incredibly long run-on sentence) description of his value for the Red Sox vs that with potential trade partners. link
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 18, 2013 15:01:19 GMT -5
He's saying that accusing Law or any writer of bias is silly and childish. Which it is. He didn't rank Sanchez where he did because he's a big Yankee fan, he did it because he believes Sanchez is the 49th best prospect in baseball. Aside from that, this is the first list I remember being as high on Owens as we are around here. Pretty good news for us Owens fans, along with this great writeup from today's Minor League Roundup: The writers also go in to Owens trade value, which I thought was a very succinct (with the exception of one incredibly long run-on sentence) description of his value for the Red Sox vs that with potential trade partners. linkHe was obviously joking. I got a cheap laugh out of it. Lighten up.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 18, 2013 15:31:23 GMT -5
On the podcast he mentioned that Cito Culver and Dante Bichette Jr. are nonprospects at this point. Man, this guy loves the Yankees!
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Post by templeusox on Jul 18, 2013 15:34:09 GMT -5
Looks pretty accurate to me.
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Post by nothingball on Jul 18, 2013 15:45:16 GMT -5
I didn't think I'd need to try and defend a light heart post in which a sports writer gives his own subjected list of top prospects. However, as someone who rarely posts and usually grabs his popcorn when others decide to debate trivial topics, I'll bite.
Do you have insider? Do you know what he wrote about MFY prospects? He takes a two paragraph blurb and spends one sentence of it talking about the prospects skills, or in this case, regression of skills. He took number 49, assigned it to the only yanks prospect barely worth mentioning during the 1st half of the year, mentions five other yankees prospects; Lauds how much potential they have, yet still cannot bring himself to rank them. Now, if Sanchez had advanced his defensive prowess behind the dish or grew into his reported raw power, this is what I want to hear about as I'll never find myself in Tampa to see a yankee prospect first-hand. In summation, his #49th ranked prospect was a bone he threw to yankeee prospectors in order to prevent a wave of typical espn.com message board trolls from bombarding him with hate, which is similar to what this discussion is turning into. I dislike the Yankees, and honestly cannot believe I have to defend this point on a redsox message board.
I find his article to be funny. If you don't find it funny, don't tell me it's not funny and that I’m am a child, as our senses of humor are clearly different. In addition, you offered little insight into your opinion of prospect lists and the writers who write them. Since the moderators are asking for new posters and new opinions, I assumed they’d rather you didn’t single out posters and make negative statements as I feel this may be counter intuitive to their cause. If I weren’t so used to reading short, nearsighted comments from our community, I’d have already deleted the cookies the site creates in my browser cache and moved on.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 18, 2013 16:35:10 GMT -5
I think everyone needs to simmer down and stop taking other people's opinions about different people's opinions about the possible long-term potential of a prospect so seriously.
Stop throwing stones at each other and instead throw them at the nearest Yankee fan. And yes, I am condoning violence against Yankee fans - they aren't real people.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 18, 2013 16:36:05 GMT -5
Law is very bullish on the younger Red Sox, would many of us have place Cecchini at 20? Honestly, Yes. I have little doubt that this kid will hit at the major legue level. He's a stud - always felt that way but tempered thing while in lower levels. I'm aware we are in SSS zone still but it's not his numbers alone, its the whoie approach and way he's doing it. Kid has the best attitude I've ever heard from a prospect. I'd copy the links to 2 recent WEEI.com articles tat talk about him, but on my IPad, I sometimes lose my post when flipping pages. Google Cecchini WEEI. Kid is driven, team oriented, competitive ad as no ego. It's extremely rare. If he stays healthy, he will be a productive major leaguer with potential to be great. That's top 20 all day.
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Post by nothingball on Jul 18, 2013 16:58:32 GMT -5
I think everyone needs to simmer down and stop taking other people's opinions about different people's opinions about the possible long-term potential of a prospect so seriously. Stop throwing stones at each other and instead throw them at the nearest Yankee fan. And yes, I am condoning violence against Yankee fans - they aren't real people. Avoid yankee prospects with your stones as you'll certainly afflict them with a career threatening injury.
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