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Post by mgoetze on Jul 18, 2013 15:58:13 GMT -5
Interesting Question from today's WEEI Rob Bradford chat:
Q: Who helps more in the second half? Webster or De Larosa
A: This is a great question. I'm saying De La Rosa because of what he could potentially deliver in the bullpen. Webster has been up and down as of late, which is understandable. De La Rosa's stuff could translate into short, key burst of success
Interested in more opinions on this topic. Of course, "neither of them will help" is a possible answer too...
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Post by okin15 on Jul 19, 2013 8:08:55 GMT -5
I think that the Sox wait a while on both. Neither has shown the consistency or poise to play at the MLB level right now, while Workman and Wright have. I know it's not sexy, but that's the long and short.
If I had to guess on who helps more later in the year, I'd agree its DLR just because he's a more likely bullpen candidate. Webster's more likely to have a major if/when he gets it together though.
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Post by nomar on Jul 19, 2013 9:09:53 GMT -5
I'd say RDLR in the bullpen, but neither stick in the rotation. Neither can keep their command consistently enough. Webster especially. I would say RDLR for sure if he didn't have the pitch/innings count he does now.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 19, 2013 12:54:06 GMT -5
I think De La Rosa might be a key bullpen figure in September. I'm hoping he could take some high leverage innings, but I think that's pie in the sky. I still think he's trying to regain his control and I can't see the Sox sticking in the 8th inning, but he's still an interesting option.
I don't think Webster is going to find that switch this year. At some point I think the light will come on for him and he'll put his great stuff to use, but that might be next season. At the major league level his control has been spotty and when he throws strikes a lot of them have been right over the heart of the plate.
The person from Pawtucket in my opinion who will offer the biggest impact soon will be Xander Bogaerts. I think he might not need to wait until 2014 to impact the Sox. He might very well be ready to be the 3b in September and give the Sox some RH power.
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Post by rider on Jul 19, 2013 13:19:59 GMT -5
I think Webster in the end of the year will either have his control issues fixed enough so that he could be a starter for then down the stretch or he will either be an impact bullpen arm for them. Not sure about RDLR because of his innings limit
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 19, 2013 21:46:22 GMT -5
With Bailey now out for the year, Miller gone, Hanrahan. The team down to stalwarts Breslow, Tazawa and Uehara? It's time for some to get over this love affair of LDR as a starter and realize he's the best potential shut down reliever the farm system has got right now that can be made ready in short order.
To acquire anyone from another team even close to him potentially? It would COST a prospect just like him.. It's time for people here to get over it and see that he's the best combo of poer/change up they have and get him just focusing on those 2 in relief for the next several weeks at Pawtucket, then call him up.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 19, 2013 22:25:12 GMT -5
And what if he continues to walk people at the rate he has lately? 5BB in 4.1 IP tonight. He needs a ton more work. I don't trust him to pitch in the Boston pen right now. Maybe if they switch him to the pen in Pawtucket, a switch will flip and his control will improve dramatically. But don't count on it.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 19, 2013 22:38:57 GMT -5
And what if he continues to walk people at the rate he has lately? 5BB in 4.1 IP tonight. He needs a ton more work. I don't trust him to pitch in the Boston pen right now. Maybe if they switch him to the pen in Pawtucket, a switch will flip and his control will improve dramatically. But don't count on it. I understand your point. Am thinking if RDLR works out of the pen, he loses the slider period and just focuses on the FB and change. That should make the transition much easier and hopefully help out with the control, sometimes it does help in cases.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 20, 2013 6:35:18 GMT -5
And what if he continues to walk people at the rate he has lately? 5BB in 4.1 IP tonight. He needs a ton more work. I don't trust him to pitch in the Boston pen right now. Maybe if they switch him to the pen in Pawtucket, a switch will flip and his control will improve dramatically. But don't count on it. I understand your point. Am thinking if RDLR works out of the pen, he loses the slider period and just focuses on the FB and change. That should make the transition much easier and hopefully help out with the control, sometimes it does help in cases. I think the control problem last night was the fb. Also, the fb started at 91 92 in the first inning with only one 94 (on the stadium gun), then got 93 94 in the second inning. Not promising for relief work. But last night may have just been a bad night.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 20, 2013 9:56:30 GMT -5
I think Rubby's destined to be a shutdown closer/relief ace.
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