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Post by p23w on Nov 6, 2013 20:56:51 GMT -5
If Napoli goes, I'd give the job to Carp. Belt would be the guy I'd want if it came down to a trade.
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Post by bgeer091 on Nov 7, 2013 9:08:42 GMT -5
Rizzo really is an untouchable? I respectfully disagree. We would have to over spend for him obviously but he's not untouchable.
It'd probably take a deal started at Barnes, Betts, + to start the conversation. Personally I would do this deal if Napoli moves on. I really would rather Napoli moves on too, because of the draft picks. I know it would leave us with a big hole in the middle of the order. I still prefer him to move on.
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Post by famousasfck on Nov 7, 2013 11:39:02 GMT -5
You all are forgetting the fact that GC is an unproven prospect who actually gets poor defensive ratings at 3b... WMB is a better defensive option than him or Bogie
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Post by ramireja on Nov 7, 2013 12:41:22 GMT -5
Why would the Cardinals trade Adams? They're content moving Craig to RF to replace Beltran. If thats true, I give it until June before they realize that an outfield with Holliday, Taveras in CF, and Craig isn't going to cut it defensively |
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Post by jdb on Nov 7, 2013 12:49:07 GMT -5
STL might have a log jam of OF and first basemen depending on what they do with Beltran. They just need to trade Tavaras for Profar and get it over with.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 7, 2013 12:52:21 GMT -5
When will people realize WMB isn't a very good defensive 3b?
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Post by pedey on Nov 7, 2013 14:49:35 GMT -5
When will people realize WMB isn't a very good defensive 3b? Brooks has cannon arm. He needs to work on his glove work a little, but he can be very good defensively. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 7, 2013 21:04:28 GMT -5
He can't go right towards the line very well and has fairly slow reaction times in my opinion. He's fine overall but I seem to hear people speaking about him like he's a step below longoria.
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Post by lowell4president on Nov 8, 2013 13:34:35 GMT -5
I don't think the Red Sox trade for a 1B. Unless it's a trade where we are able to only give up low-end prospects, which won't happen for anyone useful.
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 4, 2013 11:41:57 GMT -5
I'm sure Ben is checking in with Moore in KC on Butler. If the Royals sign Beltran it would add another power bat to the lineup and may make Billy a little more available. He's got a lifetime .298/.364/.459 slash with a .823 OPS in seven seasons. He has been almost exclusively a DH, but can probably play 1B as passably as Papi (not exactly GG quality). Would the Royals accept a Peavy or Dempster + prospect(s) for him?
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Post by p23w on Dec 4, 2013 13:02:23 GMT -5
I'm sure Ben is checking in with Moore in KC on Butler. If the Royals sign Beltran it would add another power bat to the lineup and may make Billy a little more available. He's got a lifetime .298/.364/.459 slash with a .823 OPS in seven seasons. He has been almost exclusively a DH, but can probably play 1B as passably as Papi (not exactly GG quality). Would the Royals accept a Peavy or Dempster + prospect(s) for him? If the Royals sign Beltran, Butlers' days as a DH are numbered. Dempster alone (with some salary relief) would get the job done. Watching Butler play 1B for the RS would be an adventure all its; own. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 6, 2013 20:13:09 GMT -5
According to publisher reports, the Marlins are dangling Logan Morrison in order to address other needs such as 3B. John Morosi of Fox Sports (via twitter) adds that the Red Sox and Brewers have inquired on Logan.
He's only 26 playing in a big park. But his ML BA is only .246 though he's shown considerable power (23 HRs in 2012).
Any interest?
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Post by mattpicard on Dec 6, 2013 20:26:07 GMT -5
According to publisher reports, the Marlins are dangling Logan Morrison in order to address other needs such as 3B. John Morosi of Fox Sports (via twitter) adds that the Red Sox and Brewers have inquired on Logan. He's only 26 playing in a big park. But his ML BA is only .246 though he's shown considerable power (23 HRs in 2012). Any interest? Only 11 HR in 2012, not 23. His power is far from considerable, at least as a first baseman. His plate discipline is nice and he still has potential to break out, but injury and consistency issues have lowered optimism on him, including mine. Edit: he did have 23 in 2011. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 6, 2013 20:56:50 GMT -5
I've already advocated for him but I don't think he fits since he's a lefty so he wouldn't complement Carp nor Nava. I do think he has upside and under other circumstances I'd be more interested in adding him.
The guy has a good track record in the minors and has had trouble with injuries at big league level to explain some of the struggles so I think there is hope there.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 6, 2013 20:59:37 GMT -5
If the Marlins are so desperate for a 3rd Baseman lets just make a package for Stanton around Cecchini and get it over with. #ArmChairGM
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 6, 2013 21:37:16 GMT -5
Thread done
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Post by mainesox on Dec 6, 2013 22:46:07 GMT -5
Middlebrooks and Carp to Miami for Morrison and ??; Morrison could take over Carp's role from last year and would be around as a potential break out candidate (plus a prospect or something probably) while Middlebrooks and Carp could fill Miami's 1B/3B holes.
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Post by jmei on Dec 6, 2013 23:17:24 GMT -5
Honest question: why would you rather have Morrison than Carp?
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Post by pedey on Dec 6, 2013 23:34:09 GMT -5
Honest question: why would you rather have Morrison than Carp? Agreed. Carp is a better player than LoMo. Why give up Carp and WMB for him? |
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Post by mainesox on Dec 6, 2013 23:36:25 GMT -5
Honest question: why would you rather have Morrison than Carp? I don't think I would, but Carp is wasted in Boston, and I'd mostly be expecting the additional part that I mention (although I have no idea what that part would be) to be making up the value for Carp. But, I do have to say that Morrison is intriguing if his knees are fully healthy (he was always supposed to have huge potential with the bat). |
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Post by jmei on Dec 7, 2013 0:44:07 GMT -5
Honest question: why would you rather have Morrison than Carp? I don't think I would, but Carp is wasted in Boston, and I'd mostly be expecting the additional part that I mention (although I have no idea what that part would be) to be making up the value for Carp. But, I do have to say that Morrison is intriguing if his knees are fully healthy (he was always supposed to have huge potential with the bat). Why would Carp be any more wasted in Boston than LoMo? They would both be left-handed backup 1B who could get some reps in the corner outfield but and aren't good enough defenders there and would be blocked by Nava in LF. |
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Post by mainesox on Dec 7, 2013 0:53:11 GMT -5
I don't think I would, but Carp is wasted in Boston, and I'd mostly be expecting the additional part that I mention (although I have no idea what that part would be) to be making up the value for Carp. But, I do have to say that Morrison is intriguing if his knees are fully healthy (he was always supposed to have huge potential with the bat). Why would Carp be any more wasted in Boston than LoMo? They would both be left-handed backup 1B who could get some reps in the corner outfield but and aren't good enough defenders there and would be blocked by Nava in LF. I worded it poorly, but I meant wasted as in he produced well last year and we could probably be selling relatively high on him rather than having him sit on the bench again next year (I think he's be more valuable as a trade piece than as a bench player); meanwhile we'd be buying relatively low on Morrison (assuming, as I mentioned, the other piece coming back made up the value for him - I would expect it to essentially be WMB for LoMo and Carp for ??), and could potentially do the same thing with him a year from now if he has a good year like Carp. |
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Post by michael on Jan 11, 2014 12:36:50 GMT -5
Wasn't the original premis that Napoli wasn't resigned?
If that we're the case Carp becomes quite a bit more important, even as part of a platoon.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jan 11, 2014 13:32:24 GMT -5
Another cheap 1B acquisition possibility is Jerry Sands, ex-Red Sox. Not in the same mold of the Belts, LoMos of this league, but a power hitter who might be available as a non-roster MiL pickup. Right now, Daniel Snyder is projected at 1B for Pawtucket with Chester at Portland. If Sands clears waivers for the Rays they may be interested in a low ceiling minor leaguer to add depth as the Sox would with Sands.
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 11, 2014 14:11:11 GMT -5
Another cheap 1B acquisition possibility is Jerry Sands, ex-Red Sox. Not in the same mold of the Belts, LoMos of this league, but a power hitter who might be available as a non-roster MiL pickup. Right now, Daniel Snyder is projected at 1B for Pawtucket with Chester at Portland. If Sands clears waivers for the Rays they may be interested in a low ceiling minor leaguer to add depth as the Sox would with Sands. Sands cleared waivers and was outrighted to AAA by the Rays a couple days ago. He'll be a NRI for them in Spring Training. Also, his 2013 collapse (.640 OPS in 397 AAA PAs) is pretty concerning. Brandon Snyder could easily be just as, if not more valuable as a depth option at first base, and it doesn't hurt that he can catch or play third in emergency-type situations. It's looking increasingly more likely that Sands' poor hit tool will prevent his power from thriving in the majors, and it doesn't help that he's a righty with a platoon split and only can play the corner outfield and first base decently. |
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