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Post by pedey on Oct 31, 2013 19:41:19 GMT -5
If the sox can't retain Napoli, it wouldn't be bad to discuss some potential 1B trade targets with a weak free agent market for 1B and not many internal options.
I'd want someone young, relatively cost-controlled for a few years, reasonable to acquire, and has a high OBP. (That already omits Mark Trumbo)
Potential Guys to land:
Matt Adams - STL Anthony Rizzo - CHC Yonder Alonso - SDP Tommy Medica - SDP Brandon Belt - SFG Gaby Sanchez - PIT
Any other ideas on potential trade targets for first base?
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Post by nebraska4sox on Oct 31, 2013 23:16:52 GMT -5
I highly doubt the Cubs and Theo will set themselves back by trading Rizzo. It just wouldn't really make sense no matter the scenario. Don't know if I would really want Yonder Alonso he in my opinion is a borderline bust. Brandon Belt is the guy that I would really like to get
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Post by oleary25 on Nov 1, 2013 2:28:31 GMT -5
If anything the Cubs are the best trade partner. They are in dire need of young controllable pitching which we have an abundance of currently. They have Vitters to play at 3b plus Rizzo or Olt. Not to mention Javier Baez SS/3B, Kris Bryant 3B/1B, & Daniel Vogelbach 1B in the lower minors.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 1, 2013 6:02:01 GMT -5
No chance they trade Rizzo who had a pretty bad year and they'd be selling incredibly low on. It's not like they're trying to compete this year or something.
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Post by pedey on Nov 1, 2013 6:06:00 GMT -5
If anything the Cubs are the best trade partner. They are in dire need of young controllable pitching which we have an abundance of currently. They have Vitters to play at 3b plus Rizzo or Olt. Not to mention Javier Baez SS/3B, Kris Bryant 3B/1B, & Daniel Vogelbach 1B in the lower minors. If the cubs were listening to offers on Rizzo, what would it take to acquire him?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 1, 2013 17:16:42 GMT -5
They literally just gave Rizzo a seven-year contract. Seriously, they're not trading him.
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Post by Kevin Pereira on Nov 1, 2013 23:32:01 GMT -5
The only real possibilities I see on that list are Matt Adams and Brandon Belt.
But I think Mark Trumbo should be the top first baseman if Napoli leaves, so what do I know?
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Post by pasadenasox on Nov 1, 2013 23:35:02 GMT -5
How about Olt? I know he had a bad year, but he could be a buy low guy. I was a believer.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 2, 2013 0:11:51 GMT -5
I'd like Brandon Belt but why would they trade him? Is Aubrey Huff's corpse not retired yet?
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Post by nebraska4sox on Nov 2, 2013 0:13:05 GMT -5
How about Olt? I know he had a bad year, but he could be a buy low guy. I was a believer. Traded Garza for him and he was one of the key pieces to that deal, I still think that may be a longshot.
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Post by jdb on Nov 3, 2013 11:45:37 GMT -5
I'm staring to warm up to Carp. Given we let Salty and Drew go we need to replace those bats vs RHP.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Nov 3, 2013 12:31:26 GMT -5
I'd like Brandon Belt but why would they trade him? Is Aubrey Huff's corpse not retired yet? Weren't they seriously pursing Abreu? I don't know why they seem to underrate Belt so much, but it's been there for a while. He'd be my target as far as realistic options go assuming Napoli walks.
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Post by jmei on Nov 3, 2013 15:01:11 GMT -5
Darin Ruf of the Phillies may be another option. He's blocked at 1B by Ryan Howard and Amaro recently mentioned that he's not a right fielder. Not sure I'd want the Red Sox to acquire him, though-- he was a 20th round senior draft pick who has always been old for his league (he'll turn 28 in 2014) and scouts have never liked his bat speed or plate discipline (despite decent walk rates in the minors). But he'll probably be available, and he might make a decent platoon partner with Carp if the Red Sox let Napoli go.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 3, 2013 15:15:00 GMT -5
How about LoMo? or is he too much of an injury risk or unlikely to get traded?
Maybe a Nava/Gabby Sanchez platoon.
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Post by jdb on Nov 3, 2013 20:43:30 GMT -5
How about LoMo? or is he too much of an injury risk or unlikely to get traded? Maybe a Nava/Gabby Sanchez platoon. I think he's a platoon guy. I'd be open to trading for Aramis Rameriz and moving him over to 1B. I just don't trust Napolis hips or K rates for a two year deal.
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Post by mainesox on Nov 3, 2013 22:30:43 GMT -5
He doesn't necessarily fit all of the criteria set out by the OP, but what about Pablo Sandoval? He'd likely be a downgrade from what Napoli provided this year, and he's only got one year of control left, but I think his offense would probably improve moving from AT&T Park (and all the other NL west parks) to Fenway (and all the other AL East parks), and he'd probably come relatively cheap.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 3, 2013 22:38:55 GMT -5
Whether the team signs Napoli to a short term deal or uses a Carp/Nava platoon the team will need to consider the future hole at 1B. I do like Belt but don't see how the Giants can trade him now with no current replacement of value on the roster. I've made a list of up an coming minor leaguers who either have played 1B or I believe could move over from 3B to play 1B. Most are within a year or two from being Major League ready. Some would need most of a year at 1B to learn the position defensively. Highest level reached listed. Some have had limited at bats with the big league team but not significant.
Hunter Morris 1B 25 AAA (Milwaukee Brewers) Ryan Wheeler 3B 25 AAA (Colorado Rockies) Matt Skole 3B/1B 24 AA (Washington Nationals) Jesus Aguilar 1B 23 AAA (Cleveland Indians) Matt Davidson 3B 22 AAA (Arizona Diamondbacks) Maikel Franco 3B 21 AAA (Philadelphia Phillies) Jorge Alfaro 1B 20 Hi A (Texas Rangers) Longer development
Not saying any or all of these player would be available but there are a few teams on this list that would like to land some starting pitching which makes Peavy or the AAA ready arms valuable trade commodities. Particularly if the team lands Tanaka to reinforce the rotation depth or signs Drew, then trades WMB for a major league ready arm from Florida (rumor mill).
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Nov 3, 2013 22:44:16 GMT -5
I think we will end up keeping Napoli.
But Adams seems to make a lot of sense in the even Napoli isn't resigned.
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Post by jmei on Nov 3, 2013 23:25:52 GMT -5
Why would the Cardinals trade Adams? They're content moving Craig to RF to replace Beltran.
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Post by pedey on Nov 5, 2013 19:05:51 GMT -5
I like Tommy Medica of the Padres. He will be 26 in April, but he did well in cup of coffee in the majors this year. He has power, doesn't strike out a ton, and has good plate discipline. Although he never made a top prospect list, neither did Paul Goldschmidt. Because he isn't well-known, he may be relatively cheap to acquire via trade. Medica's Stats
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 6, 2013 10:28:13 GMT -5
He doesn't necessarily fit all of the criteria set out by the OP, but what about Pablo Sandoval? He'd likely be a downgrade from what Napoli provided this year, and he's only got one year of control left, but I think his offense would probably improve moving from AT&T Park (and all the other NL west parks) to Fenway (and all the other AL East parks), and he'd probably come relatively cheap. I'd love to see Pablo in a Red Sox uni. But I'm greedy and want Belt, too. How about Lackey, WMB and Travis Shaw for the pair? Sandoval can play third for a year or so until Cecchini is ready. The switch hitting Panda then moves to DH if Papi is not extended. We may have to sweeten the pot with another top prospect because Belt is an established young power hitting first baseman. But we have no one with his comparable tools in our system.
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Post by jdb on Nov 6, 2013 17:57:25 GMT -5
Belt is really interesting and I have seen Law mention he made some swing changes and took off. Looking at his splits he hit .326/.390/.525 .915 ops the second half and he also had a .901 ops on the road.
I don't know what type of needs they have but have seen they are looking for bats so its unlikely anything happened. Who knows maybe they are thinking about getting Posey's bat in the lineup more at first(50 games or so) and would be interested in WMBs and slide Panda over to 1B. With Zito off their books Peavy could be in play to. Would WMBs and Peavy be enough?
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Post by redsox1534 on Nov 6, 2013 18:31:14 GMT -5
Belt is really interesting and I have seen Law mention he made some swing changes and took off. Looking at his splits he hit .326/.390/.525 .915 ops the second half and he also had a .901 ops on the road. I don't know what type of needs they have but have seen they are looking for bats so its unlikely anything happened. Who knows maybe they are thinking about getting Posey's bat in the lineup more at first(50 games or so) and would be interested in WMBs and slide Panda over to 1B. With Zito off their books Peavy could be in play to. Would WMBs and Peavy be enough? I wish.
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Post by mainesox on Nov 6, 2013 18:58:53 GMT -5
This wouldn't be a solution for 1B immediately, but I really like Dan Vogelbach with the Cubs, and with Rizzo locked up long term I imagine he becomes available at some point. His defense is suspect (to the point where some see him as a DH only type), but I've seen plenty of 60 grades on his hit tool, and 70 grades on his power, and he's supposed to have a good approach and takes a lot of walks too.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Nov 6, 2013 19:11:26 GMT -5
Why would the Cardinals trade Adams? They're content moving Craig to RF to replace Beltran. I didn't know Craig was also an outfielder, I thought him and Adams were both first baseman just from the way their line ups were constructed and what I heard in the World Series. I'm trying to follow some of these NL teams more but sometimes it can be tough to keep track of all their players.
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