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Post by elguapo on Dec 4, 2013 13:49:47 GMT -5
I expect Brentz to make his debut this season and he should be a good depth option. He'll be in his second year at AAA, he's made adjustments at each step up the ladder, and he's entering what should be his prime years.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 4, 2013 13:54:42 GMT -5
I expect Brentz to make his debut this season and he should be a good depth option. He'll be in his second year at AAA, he's made adjustments at each step up the ladder, and he's entering what should be his prime years. Can he play RF in Fenway or is he yet another terrible LFer which we already have 3 of. I'm guessing he cannot play RF any better than Nava.
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Post by mattpicard on Dec 4, 2013 14:09:37 GMT -5
I expect Brentz to make his debut this season and he should be a good depth option. He'll be in his second year at AAA, he's made adjustments at each step up the ladder, and he's entering what should be his prime years. Can he play RF in Fenway or is he yet another terrible LFer which we already have 3 of. I'm guessing he cannot play RF any better than Nava. I haven't seen him out there enough to give you the most reliable opinion, but I picture him eventually settling in as a fringe-average MLB right fielder in an average park. So, at Fenway, he'd be a bit rough, but certainly superior to Nava (better range and arm). His defense may be far from stellar, but it's not what's going to hold him back.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 4, 2013 14:17:01 GMT -5
Can he play RF in Fenway or is he yet another terrible LFer which we already have 3 of. I'm guessing he cannot play RF any better than Nava. I haven't seen him out there enough to give you the most reliable opinion, but I picture him eventually settling in as a fringe-average MLB right fielder in an average park. So, at Fenway, he'd be a bit rough, but certainly superior to Nava (better range and arm). His defense may be far from stellar, but it's not what's going to hold him back. Do you think there is a chance he makes the team to be that backup RF we need?
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Post by mattpicard on Dec 4, 2013 14:51:27 GMT -5
I haven't seen him out there enough to give you the most reliable opinion, but I picture him eventually settling in as a fringe-average MLB right fielder in an average park. So, at Fenway, he'd be a bit rough, but certainly superior to Nava (better range and arm). His defense may be far from stellar, but it's not what's going to hold him back. Do you think there is a chance he makes the team to be that backup RF we need? No. I'm of the belief that JBJ should not only be our starting center fielder, but he should also be playing nearly everyday. That's not to say that he shouldn't receive days off, but I really don't believe it's a good idea to platoon him. Let him hit ninth and see all different types of pitchers as he gets acclimated. Because of this, Victorino will remain in right field, leaving the only opportunities to play there resulting from an injury to Victorino. How much time he'll miss - could be 15 games, could be 70 - I don't know, but I'd much prefer a Franklin Gutierrez type who could provide plus defense and adequate offense against a lefty. Giving Brentz that role, where there'd be a good possibility he'd rarely play, seems like a detriment to both our team and his development. Even though I think Brentz's defense will be acceptable, it's not a reason to carry him on the big club. I adamantly believe he needs more AAA seasoning to refine his approach, and I'm not sure how much he'll actually improve. Point is, right now, I don't think he's ready to hit in the MLB at a satisfactory level, and his defense being a bit better than Nava's is no reason to rush him up.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 4, 2013 15:13:54 GMT -5
Do you think there is a chance he makes the team to be that backup RF we need? No. I'm of the belief that JBJ should not only be our starting center fielder, but he should also be playing nearly everyday. That's not to say that he shouldn't receive days off, but I really don't believe it's a good idea to platoon him. Let him hit ninth and see all different types of pitchers as he gets acclimated. Because of this, Victorino will remain in right field, leaving the only opportunities to play there resulting from an injury to Victorino. How much time he'll miss - could be 15 games, could be 70 - I don't know, but I'd much prefer a Franklin Gutierrez type who could provide plus defense and adequate offense against a lefty. Giving Brentz that role, where there'd be a good possibility he'd rarely play, seems like a detriment to both our team and his development. Even though I think Brentz's defense will be acceptable, it's not a reason to carry him on the big club. I adamantly believe he needs more AAA seasoning to refine his approach, and I'm not sure how much he'll actually improve. Point is, right now, I don't think he's ready to hit in the MLB at a satisfactory level, and his defense being a bit better than Nava's is no reason to rush him up. Yeah, there's no point in bringing Brentz up to be on the bench. This year at least. Also, I'd be thrilled if he turned into Pedro Alvarez, tbh.
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Post by jmei on Apr 9, 2014 12:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 18, 2014 14:30:17 GMT -5
It looks like Brentz has made huge strides with his plate discipline.
Changes from 2013-2013: K% 24.6 to 21.5 (may be SSS) BB% 5.7 to 12.7 (hard to imagine this is due to SSS)
His babip is only .260 and based on past performance he appears to be a .300-.310 type babip guy. So his avg should be up around .265-.275 over time.
I'm really excited about the BB% spike and am hopeful that he turns into Gomes with a better glove. (He still can't hit RHP)
Has anyone who has seen him in person noticed improvements with his plate discipline and pitch recognition?
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Post by arzjake on May 27, 2014 19:16:25 GMT -5
What was the Injury this time?
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Post by amfox1 on May 27, 2014 20:01:25 GMT -5
What was the Injury this time? Check the "Injury Report" pulldown for information on all reported injuries.
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Post by dmaineah on Jun 24, 2014 12:31:07 GMT -5
any news on his hamstring?
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Post by jmei on Jun 24, 2014 12:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by arzjake on Aug 17, 2014 21:11:59 GMT -5
Showing good power once again. This player deserves a shot in the near future.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 22, 2014 15:03:29 GMT -5
I feel he deserves shot at the Majors. Seems Red Sox won't give it to him. They have loaded up on OF. He'll need a bunch of players to get injured to have a shot next year.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 22, 2014 15:13:48 GMT -5
WHY do you think he deserves a shot in Boston?
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Post by moonstone2 on Aug 22, 2014 23:07:15 GMT -5
See I don't see why Brentz can't be a nice up and down player. Maybe they can give him a third baseman's mitt this winter.
In another thread we have guys arguing that the Sox absolutely.must protect. Travis Shaw who is a very similar player. But Brentz is already on the .roster and can play the outfield.
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Post by arzjake on Sept 26, 2014 20:29:45 GMT -5
Brentz making the most of his call up batting .400
Kid deserves a long look this winter into the spring. Sometimes minor league scouting and stats "DO LIE"
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 26, 2014 21:44:47 GMT -5
The question is: has he shown enough to warrant another spot on the 40? With the other prospects who must be added, the discussion continues.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 26, 2014 23:36:21 GMT -5
Brentz making the most of his call up batting .400 Kid deserves a long look this winter into the spring. Sometimes minor league scouting and stats "DO LIE" Or he is just excelling in the smallest of sample sizes (15 AB).
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Post by greenmonsterwhalers on Sept 26, 2014 23:45:21 GMT -5
Power is a big commodity so I think he will be protected. Some team might want him as part of a trade package too.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 27, 2014 0:12:14 GMT -5
My own opinion is that Brentz has been flying under the radar for a while. That's understandable given the nagging injuries he's had. But the power is legitimate and, as you say, these days it's much in demand. While Brentz has always been someone without elite selectivity - think Betts and how he won't give a sniff to a lot of borderline pitches - his bat is for real. The OBP will never be at the top of the list, but he hits the ball hard and I believe he has better pitch recognition than Middlebrooks - that's just from AAA videos and the very small ML sample size this year. He still waves at stuff he shouldn't but a lot of that is self-inflicted because he's so aggressive. He seems to be learning to back off. Though his batting average in AAA did drop this year, he actually finished with an OBP of over .800. That said, he's yet to get any walks in his stint with the Sox. Pitchers will start probing him with stuff off the plate at some point. Let's see how he responds.
He's paid a lot of dues in the minors, and he probably deserves a chance to play somewhere, and while he's not the fastest guy on the field he could excel in left or be serviceable in right field, because the arm strength really plays. It's time for him to get a shot.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 27, 2014 1:28:03 GMT -5
My own opinion is that Brentz has been flying under the radar for a while. That's understandable given the nagging injuries he's had. But the power is legitimate and, as you say, these days it's much in demand. While Brentz has always been someone without elite selectivity - think Betts and how he won't give a sniff to a lot of borderline pitches - his bat is for real. The OBP will never be at the top of the list, but he hits the ball hard and I believe he has better pitch recognition than Middlebrooks - that's just from AAA videos and the very small ML sample size this year. He still waves at stuff he shouldn't but a lot of that is self-inflicted because he's so aggressive. He seems to be learning to back off. Though his batting average in AAA did drop this year, he actually finished with an OBP of over .800. That said, he's yet to get any walks in his stint with the Sox. Pitchers will start probing him with stuff off the plate at some point. Let's see how he responds. He's paid a lot of dues in the minors, and he probably deserves a chance to play somewhere, and while he's not the fastest guy on the field he could excel in left or be serviceable in right field, because the arm strength really plays. It's time for him to get a shot. He's looked so good from a scouting perspective in this little trial that two valuable things have happened: 1) He's gone from trade filler to a guy that other teams will value to some degree; 2) He's become a guy you have a lot of confidence in as the bench guy who replaces a disabled Victorino on the MLB roster, in any scenario where the OF logjam is solved by trade or by conversion of someone to 3B. For instance, if you've traded Cespedes for pitching as jmei has advocated, you have Victorino starting and the Nava / Craig platoon on the bench, and when and if Victorino is hurt, the Nava platoon is perfectly adequate or better in LF, and Brentz is likewise an asset on the bench.
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Post by redsoxfan1994 on Sept 27, 2014 3:28:59 GMT -5
I don't think Brentz has done enough to ensure he'll be back in Boston next year. It's not at all his fault either, but you just can't let any 15 AB sample size dictate what you decide to do with a roster spot. Having said that I think that Cespedes, Castillio, and Betts are locks for the 2014 roster (unless there is a trade). So that leaves Victorino, JBJ, Craig, Nava, and Brentz fighting for a spot or 2 if they decide to carry 5 OF's. So for Brentz to be on the team, at least 3 of those guys have to have bad springs/early seasons. Therefore, it's hard to see Brentz on the opening Day roster or at any point before September without it being an injury related call up. I hope Craig is not on the roster next year, JBJ will probably start the year at PAW, Nava is all but a lock in my book for a bench spot, and Victorino could either be traded or be a 4th outfielder off the Bench. So that leaves you with 5 MLB OF's and JBJ ahead of Brentz. I don't see him having a role on the Red Sox in the near future (barring stats that force himself on to the team) so you might as well trade him while he still has that power prospect sparkle.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 27, 2014 7:23:20 GMT -5
My own opinion is that Brentz has been flying under the radar for a while. That's understandable given the nagging injuries he's had. But the power is legitimate and, as you say, these days it's much in demand. While Brentz has always been someone without elite selectivity - think Betts and how he won't give a sniff to a lot of borderline pitches - his bat is for real. The OBP will never be at the top of the list, but he hits the ball hard and I believe he has better pitch recognition than Middlebrooks - that's just from AAA videos and the very small ML sample size this year. He still waves at stuff he shouldn't but a lot of that is self-inflicted because he's so aggressive. He seems to be learning to back off. Though his batting average in AAA did drop this year, he actually finished with an OBP of over .800. That said, he's yet to get any walks in his stint with the Sox. Pitchers will start probing him with stuff off the plate at some point. Let's see how he responds. He's paid a lot of dues in the minors, and he probably deserves a chance to play somewhere, and while he's not the fastest guy on the field he could excel in left or be serviceable in right field, because the arm strength really plays. It's time for him to get a shot. Well I agree with this entirely. I have been a long time Brentz fan. To me he has a beautiful power swing. He is also willing to go to all fields. Hell if he could hit .250 with 25 hrs. that would be a great asset in this day. People have downed his defense but he looks comfortable in the outfield too. Who knows where this guy would be had he not had so many injuries. I know that rbis are not a popular subject, but he has been a consistent run-producer in the minors. You are right about having better pitch recognition than WMB, altho that in itself would not say much. WMB seems to guess. This guy has some idea and yes I think he has improved in that dept too. based upon what we have seen here and some spring training games.
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Post by arzjake on Sept 27, 2014 9:27:03 GMT -5
My own opinion is that Brentz has been flying under the radar for a while. That's understandable given the nagging injuries he's had. But the power is legitimate and, as you say, these days it's much in demand. While Brentz has always been someone without elite selectivity - think Betts and how he won't give a sniff to a lot of borderline pitches - his bat is for real. The OBP will never be at the top of the list, but he hits the ball hard and I believe he has better pitch recognition than Middlebrooks - that's just from AAA videos and the very small ML sample size this year. He still waves at stuff he shouldn't but a lot of that is self-inflicted because he's so aggressive. He seems to be learning to back off. Though his batting average in AAA did drop this year, he actually finished with an OBP of over .800. That said, he's yet to get any walks in his stint with the Sox. Pitchers will start probing him with stuff off the plate at some point. Let's see how he responds. He's paid a lot of dues in the minors, and he probably deserves a chance to play somewhere, and while he's not the fastest guy on the field he could excel in left or be serviceable in right field, because the arm strength really plays. It's time for him to get a shot. Well Said... Saw him play several times over the years. Scout I spoke with said some of the same u pointed out about plate discipline..
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