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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 2, 2013 18:56:33 GMT -5
Maybe we'll just fold this into the general non-Sox thread after tonight, but figured this could get its own for now. Non-tenders so far this evening, as collected by MLB Daily Dish at www.mlbdailydish.com/2013/12/2/5167126/non-tender-trackerNON-TENDERED (now free agents): Mets - Scott Atchison (according to Adam Rubin of ESPN.com) Mets - Omar Quintanilla (according to Jorge Castillo of the Star-Ledger) Cubs - Daniel Bard (according to ESPNChicago's Jesse Rogers) Royals - Chris Getz (according to a team announcement) Mets - Jordany Valdespin (according to Adam Rubin of ESPN.com) Braves - Elliot Johnson (according to a team announcement) Braves - Cristhian Martinez (according to a team announcement) Braves - Paul Janish (according to a team announcement) Yankees - Matt Daley (according to GM Brian Cashman) Yankees - David Adams (according to GM Brian Cashman) Yankees - Jayson Nix (according to GM Brian Cashman) TENDERED (under contract, figure not set): Athletics - Daric Barton Marlins - Logan Morrison Angels - Kevin Jepsen Braves - Craig Kimbrel, Kris Medlen, Freddie Freeman, Jason Heyward, Chris Johnson, Mike Minor, Jordan Walden, Jordan Schafer, Brandon Beachy Twins - Anthony Swarzak, Brian Duensing, Trevor Plouffe Brewers - Marco Estrada, Juan Francisco Yankees - David Robertson, Brett Gardner, Ivan Nova, Shawn Kelley, Francisco Cervelli Red Sox - Andrew Bailey AVOIDED ARBITRATION (agreed to contract): Pirates - Chris Stewart (figure unknown) (according to Dan Barbarisi of the Wall Street Journal) Tigers - Don Kelly (1 year, $1 million) (according to Jason Beck of MLB.com) Braves - Jonny Venters (according to a team announcement) Braves - Ramiro Pena (according to a team announcement) |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 2, 2013 18:58:11 GMT -5
Maybe we'll just fold this into the general non-Sox thread after tonight, but figured this could get its own for now. Non-tenders so far this evening, as collected by MLB Daily Dish at www.mlbdailydish.com/2013/12/2/5167126/non-tender-trackerNON-TENDERED (now free agents): Mets - Scott Atchison (according to Adam Rubin of ESPN.com) Mets - Omar Quintanilla (according to Jorge Castillo of the Star-Ledger) Cubs - Daniel Bard (according to ESPNChicago's Jesse Rogers) Royals - Chris Getz (according to a team announcement) Mets - Jordany Valdespin (according to Adam Rubin of ESPN.com) Braves - Elliot Johnson (according to a team announcement) Braves - Cristhian Martinez (according to a team announcement) Braves - Paul Janish (according to a team announcement) Yankees - Matt Daley (according to GM Brian Cashman) Yankees - David Adams (according to GM Brian Cashman) Yankees - Jayson Nix (according to GM Brian Cashman) TENDERED (under contract, figure not set): Athletics - Daric Barton Marlins - Logan Morrison Angels - Kevin Jepsen Braves - Craig Kimbrel, Kris Medlen, Freddie Freeman, Jason Heyward, Chris Johnson, Mike Minor, Jordan Walden, Jordan Schafer, Brandon Beachy Twins - Anthony Swarzak, Brian Duensing, Trevor Plouffe Brewers - Marco Estrada, Juan Francisco Yankees - David Robertson, Brett Gardner, Ivan Nova, Shawn Kelley, Francisco Cervelli Red Sox - Andrew Bailey AVOIDED ARBITRATION (agreed to contract): Pirates - Chris Stewart (figure unknown) (according to Dan Barbarisi of the Wall Street Journal) Tigers - Don Kelly (1 year, $1 million) (according to Jason Beck of MLB.com) Braves - Jonny Venters (according to a team announcement) Braves - Ramiro Pena (according to a team announcement) I dont think its offical that the Sox Tendered Andrew Bailey. WEEI was not able to confirm the report |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 2, 2013 19:01:46 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 2, 2013 19:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought that looked wrong.
As for the non-tenders, wouldn't mind seeing Atchison brought in on a ML deal with a NRI.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 2, 2013 19:07:50 GMT -5
Looks like Sam Fuld won't get tendered.
Might be a backup CF/RF option for the Sox.
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Post by kman22 on Dec 2, 2013 21:25:17 GMT -5
From MLBTradeRumors, Tommy Hanson, Mat Gamel, Jerome Williams and Justin Turner were all non-tendered.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 2, 2013 21:39:59 GMT -5
Boston Red Sox ? redsox 4s #RedSox today announced that club will not tender 2014 contracts to Andrew Bailey and Ryan Kalish. As a result, both become free agents. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 2, 2013 21:48:40 GMT -5
Boston Red Sox ? redsox 4s #RedSox today announced that club will not tender 2014 contracts to Andrew Bailey and Ryan Kalish. As a result, both become free agents. Feel sorry for Kalish, though I understand the reasoning. Here's hoping the kid gets healthy and is able to exploit his talent. |
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Post by ericmvan on Dec 2, 2013 22:14:20 GMT -5
After checking the CBA, it does appear as if non-tendering Kalish (or anyone else who is not arbitration eligible) is a way to get a guy off the roster without exposing him to waivers. I hadn't thought that was possible. Presumably, they have a deal worked out with him for a minor league contract.
This gives them more 40-man roster flexibility, for sure.
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Post by jmei on Dec 2, 2013 22:21:56 GMT -5
Presumably, they have a deal worked out with him for a minor league contract. It raises an interesting question-- presumably, the long delay in announcing the non-tenders was only because the Red Sox were negotiating minor-league deals with Bailey and Kalish's agents. Did those negotiations result in those guys accepting minor-league deals? Or did negotiations fall though, forcing the Red Sox to non-tender them and hope that no other team offers them a major-league deal? |
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Post by pasadenasox on Dec 2, 2013 23:11:33 GMT -5
I had such high hopes for Ryan Kalish. Hopefully he comes back.
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Post by kman22 on Dec 2, 2013 23:17:03 GMT -5
Arizona is non-tendering Daniel Hudson according to Ben Nicholson-Smith.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 2, 2013 23:34:44 GMT -5
The Blue Jays have non-tendered C Arencibia according to a press release from the team. He might be a good pickup to catch for a year or two while Swihart and Vasquez develop at Triple A
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Post by mainesox on Dec 2, 2013 23:42:16 GMT -5
Arencibia is even more Salty than Salty. Walks 5% of the time, K's ~30% of the time, has a career .260 OBP, and is a poor defender to boot.
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Post by kman22 on Dec 2, 2013 23:53:54 GMT -5
Mitchell Boggs non-tendered by Colorado. Last year was ugly, but he could be a good bullpen flier.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 2, 2013 23:58:36 GMT -5
Well at least he has some upside as a power hitting C that can be used as a stop gap. I would rather take a flier on him than Pierzynski
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Post by mainesox on Dec 3, 2013 0:26:14 GMT -5
Well at least he has some upside as a power hitting C that can be used as a stop gap. I would rather take a flier on him than Pierzynski There's a reason that the Jays (who are reportedly trying to find a catcher) didn't tender him a contract, especially when he'll only be making a couple million at best next year. |
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Post by jmei on Dec 3, 2013 1:02:32 GMT -5
Three non-tendered relievers to keep an eye on:
Ronald Belisario
Extreme ground-ball righty (career 60.8% GB) who has had some solid seasons (3.64 and 3.09 FIP in the last two years). If signed, would be under team control for 2015 and 2016 as well.
Ryan Webb
Marlins are too cheap to keep a pretty good reliever. Like Belisario, a ground-ball righty (career 57.4% GB) with some good recent seasons (3.60 and 3.26 FIPs the last two years). Would be under team control for 2015 as well, if signed. (I'm starting to understand why Badenhop came so cheaply.)
John Axford
Still has an overpowering fastball and is worth looking into, especially if escalating HR rates in last two years were a fluke. Would be under team control for 2015-16 as well, if signed.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 3, 2013 1:18:59 GMT -5
Arizona is non-tendering Daniel Hudson according to Ben Nicholson-Smith. This is the kind of signing the Sox should go hard after. It's tough to commit though after two TJ surgeries before the age of 26. |
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 3, 2013 1:20:29 GMT -5
Well at least he has some upside as a power hitting C that can be used as a stop gap. I would rather take a flier on him than Pierzynski If we are digging that low onto the totem pole we might as well go with our own disappointment, Ryan Lavarnway. At least he has show a little at the plate. |
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Post by njsox on Dec 3, 2013 5:13:31 GMT -5
Three non-tendered relievers to keep an eye on: Ronald Belisario Extreme ground-ball righty (career 60.8% GB) who has had some solid seasons (3.64 and 3.09 FIP in the last two years). If signed, would be under team control for 2015 and 2016 as well. Ryan Webb Marlins are too cheap to keep a pretty good reliever. Like Belisario, a ground-ball righty (career 57.4% GB) with some good recent seasons (3.60 and 3.26 FIPs the last two years). Would be under team control for 2015 as well, if signed. (I'm starting to understand why Badenhop came so cheaply.) John Axford Still has an overpowering fastball and is worth looking into, especially if escalating HR rates in last two years were a fluke. Would be under team control for 2015-16 as well, if signed. If Axford came to the Sox he would implode within 6 games, instead he will sign with Tampa and save 45 games. Just the way it works for the Sox and relievers |
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Post by jmei on Dec 3, 2013 10:24:22 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 3, 2013 10:52:17 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if he received a major league deal. He was questions las major league ready before missing the last 2 years.
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Post by moonstone2 on Dec 3, 2013 12:16:14 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if he received a major league deal. He was questions las major league ready before missing the last 2 years. If I were Kalish's agent, I'd try to get him a minor league deal with a non-roster invite and an opt out date. If Kalish resigns with the Red Sox, his only chance of making the team is if someone gets hurt. There are many teams that would give him a legitimate chance to win a major league job. I'm with Jmei, yes don't be shocked, the Cubs are probably a good landing spot for him given that the guy who originally drafted him is there and that their major league club isn't exactly stacked with good outfielders. |
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Post by njsox on Dec 3, 2013 12:33:33 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if he received a major league deal. He was questions las major league ready before missing the last 2 years. If I were Kalish's agent, I'd try to get him a minor league deal with a non-roster invite and an opt out date. If Kalish resigns with the Red Sox, his only chance of making the team is if someone gets hurt. There are many teams that would give him a legitimate chance to win a major league job. I'm with Jmei, yes don't be shocked, the Cubs are probably a good landing spot for him given that the guy who originally drafted him is there and that their major league club isn't exactly stacked with good outfielders. The Mets would be a great spot for him, they need outfielders in a bad way. |
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