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Post by redsoxmarc on Jan 26, 2014 17:28:51 GMT -5
Would it serve the Red Sox well to trade Mike Carp before Kendrys Morales signs? It seems the Red Sox could command more for Carp if they dealt him before Morales signs. Morales will be a lot more expensive than Carp and will cost the team that signs him a draft pick. The Sox could pit teams (such as the Mets, Brewers and Pirates) who need a 1B against one another and up the price for Carp. It seems most teams are set at 1B so the Sox should act sooner (before Morales signs) rather than later so there is more competition for his services.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jan 26, 2014 17:36:35 GMT -5
Would it serve the Red Sox well to trade Mike Carp before Kendrys Morales signs? It seems the Red Sox could command more for Carp if they dealt him before Morales signs. Morales will be a lot more expensive than Carp and will cost the team that signs him a draft pick. The Sox could pit teams (such as the Mets, Brewers and Pirates) who need a 1B against one another and up the price for Carp. It seems most teams are set at 1B so the Sox should act sooner (before Morales signs) rather than later so there is more competition for his services. I'm sure the Red Sox have talked with teams enough to have a good sense of what they could get in return for Carp at this time. I don't think Morales is going to change that much. Morales is a a 30 year old DH that will cost a draft pick and hasn't even put up a 2 WAR season since 2009. I don't know who is going to sign him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sign until the season starts. This won't have an effect on Carp. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jan 26, 2014 17:43:31 GMT -5
Well if nobody comes with an offer to their liking there is not much they can do. Teams need to come to them and it's not like they absolutely have to trade him. They'll trade him IF they get a sufficient offer if not they'll keep.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jan 26, 2014 17:46:26 GMT -5
I question Carps value at this point in the market.
Any gm in place last year could of had him for free.
Many are more in keep my job mode over make the best value based choices mode.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 26, 2014 18:11:36 GMT -5
What a player can fetch on the trade market is greatly affected by opportunity. More so then what a players value is. This is why TB can't get a similar return for Price as they did for Sheilds.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jan 26, 2014 19:06:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure about that. None of us knows what teams have offered the Rays for Price. Price will command a higher return than Shields, though Wil Myers was certainly a substantial bounty. I have to believe the Royals regret that deal.
Andrew Friedman is waiting for a knock-your-socks offer for Price. I doubt he settles for anything less than a couple of top ML ready prospects.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 26, 2014 19:17:34 GMT -5
I have the feeling that the Sox have tried to trade Carp and received interest, just not what they want.
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Post by jimoh on Jan 26, 2014 19:24:44 GMT -5
I question Carps value at this point in the market. Any gm in place last year could of had him for free. Many are more in keep my job mode over make the best value based choices mode. You seriously think that Carp's value this winter and spring is influenced by the fact that he had a low value last Spring, before having a season with an 883 OPS on a World Series winner? |
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Post by godot on Jan 26, 2014 20:33:02 GMT -5
Reading this thread, makes me long for pitchers and catchers to report.
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Post by semperfisox on Jan 26, 2014 20:55:42 GMT -5
Reading this thread, makes me long for pitchers and catchers to report. and then raising the championship flag!!! ughhh can't wait. |
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Post by eagleeye9184 on Jan 27, 2014 14:03:26 GMT -5
Love the site. I've been a lurker forever. One question I have regarding Morales's situation is can he wait until after the draft, and then sign? Would a team be required to forfeit a pick for the 2015 draft, or can he sign without repurcussions?
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Post by jrffam05 on Jan 27, 2014 14:46:15 GMT -5
I don't know what Carp is worth, but I could think of a couple teams who would probably like to carry him. He is probably an everyday starter on some small market teams.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 27, 2014 15:02:30 GMT -5
Love the site. I've been a lurker forever. One question I have regarding Morales's situation is can he wait until after the draft, and then sign? Would a team be required to forfeit a pick for the 2015 draft, or can he sign without repurcussions? Welcome! The answer is no pick if he's signed after the draft. |
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Post by jimoh on Jan 27, 2014 16:58:43 GMT -5
This was implied in the listing of the Pirates among possible suitors for Carp, but just to lay it out: they see themselves as contenders, have a RHH 1b who is weak against RHP, and have a rich farm system (mlb ranks Josh Bell #7) and a limited budget. Also their LF is RHH Sterling Marte. Gaby Sanchez: www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=sanchga01&year=&t=b |
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Post by patrmac04 on Jan 27, 2014 17:23:52 GMT -5
Carp provides valuable insurance and depth for Big Papi and Napoli. He is a cost effective power hitter who showed the ability to hit as a pinch hitter. I don't see him getting traded at all.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jan 28, 2014 15:12:11 GMT -5
With Sizemore signed to a ML contract, and given the questions about his health, it would not be wise to trade Carp until we know Grady's situation with some certainty.
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Post by redsoxmarc on Feb 3, 2014 9:37:52 GMT -5
Tim Britton puts it best today when he discusses the Sox depth in certain places leave them vulnerable in other positions (CF and 3B and even SS). That is why I am in favor of trading Carp as the Sox have other viable options in OF and 1B. Carp is great to have but not if it could potentially hurt the depth of the team in other key areas.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 3, 2014 13:50:04 GMT -5
Tim Britton puts it best today when he discusses the Sox depth in certain places leave them vulnerable in other positions (CF and 3B and even SS). That is why I am in favor of trading Carp as the Sox have other viable options in OF and 1B. Carp is great to have but not if it could potentially hurt the depth of the team in other key areas. Lavarnway just walked up to the serving line, also. That means they have four guys when you include Nava to go with Napoli and Carp. So yes, they probably need to explore other options. If Sizemore can function as a fourth outfielder, that becomes even more pressing since he may take playing time from the current left-field platoon as well as in center and right. It could be the team is waiting to see how he performs before making a move, but it's likely something will happen. |
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