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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 17:03:57 GMT -5
I am not saying that the team should sell or give up on the season. But that doesn't mean that getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction either. Getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction. So said one of our posters who reads fangraphs articles and doesn't watch baseball.
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 17:11:52 GMT -5
Redsox407 good points. The Red Sox did play bad for a few days and the team should be embarrassed how poorly they played.
Of course fans should be upset and react as should the team. The key is to not overreact. It doesn't mean it's worthless information.
I don't see anything wrong with small incremental steps and then reevaluation.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 6, 2014 17:50:53 GMT -5
Getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction. So said one of our posters who reads fangraphs articles and doesn't watch baseball. Really?
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 17:57:16 GMT -5
So said one of our posters who reads fangraphs articles and doesn't watch baseball. Really? The world isn't black and white and the game is played on the field not on spreadsheet. I for one am getting a little tired, of the small sample size police saying that the team and it's fans shouldn't react to a three game losing streak even with a couple of small changes because it doesn't fit in their statistical model of the world. The team did play badly for three days and there should be a small reaction that might help the team play better. Seriously, Daniel Nava won't die if he doesn't play tomorrow and is back on Tuesday and having Bogarts lead off might help the team play better. Why does such a suggestion need to be met with the type of reaction you had and usually have. I guess we can't even say that the Red Sox lost and are now 2-4 because that would be an EXTREME, overreaction to a small sample size.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 6, 2014 18:07:47 GMT -5
The world isn't black and white and the game is played on the field not on spreadsheet. I think it's sad that you can't appreciate that and think that ANY reaction, certainly not an overreaction, to a string of losses to a bad team, is equivalent to a "cranky old sports-writer". I guess we can't even say that the Red Sox lost and are now 2-4 because that would be an EXTREME, overreaction to a small sample size. Right. I said all of those things.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 6, 2014 18:07:59 GMT -5
Redsox407 good points. The Red Sox did play bad for a few days and the team should be embarrassed how poorly they played.That's the thing homie, they shouldn't. This is baseball. Bad series happen, where we get poor matchups or where the pitching or hitting sucks. If they get embarrassed every time it happens they would either quit the sport or become the Tampa Bay Rays and sulk behind known asshole Joe Maddon.
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 18:17:39 GMT -5
Redsox407 good points. The Red Sox did play bad for a few days and the team should be embarrassed how poorly they played.That's the thing homie, they shouldn't. This is baseball. Bad series happen, where we get poor matchups or where the pitching or hitting sucks. If they get embarrassed every time it happens they would either quit the sport or become the Tampa Bay Rays and sulk behind known asshole Joe Maddon. First off I am not your homie. Secondly, this is exactly what I mean. No players should not quit the sport when they are embarrassed, but I think it's perfectly fine for a fan to say that they sucked this weekend and maybe move a player or two in the lineup for a day. I don't think that such a reaction merits a slap from the small sample size police. Come on now.
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 18:19:10 GMT -5
The world isn't black and white and the game is played on the field not on spreadsheet. I think it's sad that you can't appreciate that and think that ANY reaction, certainly not an overreaction, to a string of losses to a bad team, is equivalent to a "cranky old sports-writer". I guess we can't even say that the Red Sox lost and are now 2-4 because that would be an EXTREME, overreaction to a small sample size. Right. I said all of those things. Actually you did. You said that no one should react at all to the team losing a string of games. Does that mean we can't even say they played badly? I mean come on.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 6, 2014 18:32:01 GMT -5
Right. I said all of those things. Actually you did.You said that no one should react at all to the team losing a string of games. Does that mean we can't even say they played badly? I mean come on. Do you even care what I actually meant by that or does it make you happier to interpret it as whatever will best feed your indignation?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 6, 2014 18:34:08 GMT -5
Its okay guys. There is nothing wrong with something of a bridge year with some of these guys like AJP. I guess they didn't want to overpay Salty. The LF platoon's days may also be numbered. In Cherington we trust.
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Post by klostrophobic on Apr 6, 2014 19:13:33 GMT -5
ATTN Homies: The Red Sox are a 5 game winning streak from potentially having the best record in baseball. A 2 game winning streak from first in the division. These are trying times.
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Post by danr on Apr 6, 2014 20:20:04 GMT -5
All nine Sox starters got one hit each, but the team scored no runs. I wonder how often that happens?
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Post by jmei on Apr 6, 2014 21:00:52 GMT -5
Nava smoked three balls today, but two just happened to be right at a defender. He'll be fine. The only concern is that he hasn't worked a walk yet, but he's been working the count and seeing lots of pitches, and I think it'll come.
ADD: Wanted to clarify-- I can see moving Nava down in the order and putting Sizemore or Bogaerts in the leadoff spot. But I do not think Nava should sit in LF in favor of Carp, as he's just a much better defender.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 7, 2014 12:57:37 GMT -5
Nava shouldn't play RF every day either though
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