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4/4-4/6 Red Sox vs. Brewers Series Thread
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Post by godot on Apr 6, 2014 13:57:33 GMT -5
If Middlebrooks is out for a while, they should bring up Marrero and stick him at short, with Xander at third. And again, I like Bradley in right when Sizemorere is in center. Over a 25-30 game stretch, all that stuff will make a difference, I believe. Nice idea, but the Sox do not operate that way, perhaps for good reasons. Apparently they believe Marrero would be better severed where he is. Same goes for Darin. Hey, why not sign Drew to a two week :)contract.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 14:00:46 GMT -5
Yawn... how about some offense?
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 14:23:16 GMT -5
NESN sideline commentators were nicer to look at last year.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 6, 2014 14:35:21 GMT -5
2 hopper and 5 feet off the plate.....Not a good throw there.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 14:35:50 GMT -5
Herrera is pretty decent at 3rd.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 14:47:49 GMT -5
Hm... feels like JBJ might have been able to score on that play.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 15:03:04 GMT -5
3 throws by Ross in this game, and all 3 were absolutely awful.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2014 15:18:24 GMT -5
NESN sideline commentators were nicer to look at last year. What's wrong with Elle Duncan?
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 15:26:32 GMT -5
What's wrong with Elle Duncan? Nothing wrong with her, but she's not Jamie Erdahl.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2014 15:30:26 GMT -5
Well no Elle spent too much time in the sun right?
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Post by jmei on Apr 6, 2014 15:31:15 GMT -5
Focus on the baseball, please. Thanks.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2014 15:32:36 GMT -5
Sorry yeah I got side tracked this game teh sucks.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 15:35:53 GMT -5
AJ for Ross? Yeah, uhm, great.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 15:36:23 GMT -5
Nice hustle.
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Post by jdb on Apr 6, 2014 15:36:51 GMT -5
Lol. Now Farrell pinch hits for C and AJP swings at the first pitch.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2014 15:39:09 GMT -5
Swept at home by the Brewers, who did finish last year on the up and are better than one might think. It's not last year boys it's time to turn up.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 6, 2014 15:41:05 GMT -5
Lol. Now Farrell pinch hits for C and AJP swings at the first pitch. Farrell has been pretty bad with the pinch hitting.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 6, 2014 15:46:20 GMT -5
That was terrible baseball. Swept at home by the Milwaukee Brewers?! In a way it's kind of fitting. I would expect the Sox to lose their 4th game in a row the next game they play simply because they didn't do that at all last year - and I would think they're due for that - and I don't think they were swept at home last year at any point. I recall them having a 2-9 stretch at some point last year, but I don't think they were swept at home.
Anyways it's just baseball's reminder that every season is different and this isn't 2013 anymore. It still doesn't mean that the Sox can't be quite excellent this year, but I do think it's going to be a season where there are a lot more struggles to overcome than last season.
For the time being 3b is going to be a weak spot until WMB comes back or Cecchini gets the call. Catching is going to be an issue because unless AJP hits .300 his OBP won't ascent that high, and he's not going to hit .300 and his defense will be less than stellar - to be kind.
Another concern is that the Sox are seeing the guy that Cards fan saw at the end of last season and not the guy the Cards fans saw most of last year in Edward Mujica. I hope he's not as hittable as he's been. The other strange thing this series was seeing Buchholz get hit so hard. I don't think he had an outing that bad all last year. Hope that's an abberation.
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Post by moonstone2 on Apr 6, 2014 16:00:15 GMT -5
I am not saying that the team should sell or give up on the season. But that doesn't mean that getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction either.
Here are three things I would do.
#1 Bogarts leads off get some energy into the top of the lineup.
#2. Nava sits for a day or two. Bradley plays RF both days. Carp/Gomes platoon. Then reevaluate. (Nava's boys on the board will scream)
#3. Holt plays 3B while we see how long WMB will be out.
Hopefully this and some better play will help.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 6, 2014 16:15:45 GMT -5
Oh well, at least we miss Yu Darvish... Texans will be going to their bullpen in the first inning tomorrow.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 6, 2014 16:21:34 GMT -5
I am not saying that the team should sell or give up on the season. But that doesn't mean that getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction either. Getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 6, 2014 16:29:16 GMT -5
I really disliked the Pierzynski signing when it happened and am at borderline hate with it right now. I genuinely thought they were going to QO Salty and go with a straight L-R platoon. Last year Salty was, for a catcher, elite against RHP. He was no wizard with the glove but neither is AJP. I still don't get the signing either. If they were willing to settle for a .280 OBP then why not just go with Butler or Vazquez and hope for better than that offensively while you get better defense behind the plate?
As for today, I think unless he legitimately needs a day off - and he may have - you ride Sizemore for all you can get, esp with Victorino (and now Middlebrooks) out. I know it's far too early to panic, and three or four different bounces of the ball and this team could easily be 5-1, but you can't waste these home games in April, especially when you're looking at a tougher AL East, and an abomination in the schedule like this coming June.
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 6, 2014 16:51:22 GMT -5
Some random thoughts:
- Agree that we might as well experiment a bit with the lineup. One thing that is clear at that Bogey could really infuse some life in one of the first couple spots. Also, FWIW, Nava has always raked in the 5 and 6 spots of the order while having significantly worse numbers in the top 2 slots. How's this top 6: Bogey/Sizemore/Pedey/Ortiz/Nap/Nava.
- AJP is going to frustrate us throughout the season. A lot, at times. But he's been remarkably consistent in his career, and there's no reason not to expect him to end up with an acceptable ~90 wRC+ while not being too bad behind the dish. I don't think people should have any regrets over not giving Salty a three year deal when you consider Vazquez and Swihart's progressions.
- The Brewers have a lot thump in their lineup. Braun, Gomez, Lucroy, A-Ram, Segura, and Davis are all very effective players. And it was fair to expect Reynolds to wallop one into the monster. So, some of our pitchers getting stung by their bats shouldn't lead to a "I can't believe the Brewers did this to us" reaction.
- JBJ should play just about everyday. I think Nava's defense is acceptable to trot out in RF on occasion in itself, but what matters is that this is a better team when JBJ is playing (how nice was that throw today, BTW?). There's no reason not to expect Gomes and Nava to work out their kinks (and they got robbed a few times today), but let's keep them mostly to LF, with Carp sticking to 1B/DH. Nava is an OK left fielder, Gomes is a terrible one, and Carp simply isn't one.
Overall, I haven't seen much to really worry about. Buchholz was pretty flat, and Miller is never too dependable despite his electricity due to his control issues, but no other player has really shown any red flags.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 6, 2014 16:56:05 GMT -5
I am not saying that the team should sell or give up on the season. But that doesn't mean that getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction either. Getting swept by the Brewers should not yield any reaction. Had they swept the Brewers would that have merited a reaction? Or should fans withhold their reactions for 162 games? There's a difference between having a reaction to something, good or bad, or overreacting (The season is over or they might as well print the playoff tickets right now) They played like crap this series, which I think is a reasonable reaction given what happened, and some of the holes that were concerns are showing up (depth on the left side of the infield, outfield depth, stupid wasteful at-bats by a hacking aging catcher who can't get on-base), and other concerns such as Buchholz getting pasted like he never did last year while showing limited velocity, and a concern about Mujica. Again at this point these are concerns, not things to panic about. I think it's fine and human to react. The key this early in the season is to not overreact.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 6, 2014 17:00:01 GMT -5
Some random thoughts: - Agree that we might as well experiment a bit with the lineup. One thing that is clear at that Bogey could really infuse some life in one of the first couple spots. Also, FWIW, Nava has always raked in the 5 and 6 spots of the order while having significantly worse numbers in the top 2 slots. How's this top 6: Bogey/Sizemore/Pedey/Ortiz/Nap/Nava. - AJP is going to frustrate us throughout the season. A lot, at times. But he's been remarkably consistent in his career, and there's no reason not to expect him to end up with an acceptable ~90 wRC+ while not being too bad behind the dish. I don't think people should have any regrets over not giving Salty a three year deal when you consider Vazquez and Swihart's progressions. - The Brewers have a lot thump in their lineup. Braun, Gomez, Lucroy, A-Ram, Segura, and Davis are all very effective players. And it was fair to expect Reynolds to wallop one into the monster. So, some of our pitchers getting stung by their bats shouldn't lead to a "I can't believe the Brewers did this to us" reaction. - JBJ should play just about everyday. I think Nava's defense is acceptable to trot out in RF on occasion in itself, but what matters is that this is a better team when JBJ is playing (how nice was that throw today, BTW?). There's no reason not to expect Gomes and Nava to work out their kinks (and they got robbed a few times today), but let's keep them mostly to LF, with Carp sticking to 1B/DH. Nava is an OK left fielder, Gomes is a terrible one, and Carp simply isn't one. Overall, I haven't seen much to really worry about. Buchholz was pretty flat, and Miller is never too dependable despite his electricity due to his control issues, but no other player has really shown any red flags. My main concern about AJP, given his advanced age, is that this could be the year his BA settles into the .250 - .270 range meaning that his OBP will pretty much mirror his BA. I know the average catchers aren't hitting like Johnny Bench in his prime, but I think they might not get 90 wRC+ out of him, and see a lot of outs in the mean time. I honestly hope that his BA is bad enough so that it's easier to replace him with a Vazquez who at worst would give them much better defense and longer ABs to at least wear down the starting pitcher more. I agree re: JBJ. This is a good time to see what they have in JBJ and it's better for his development to play everyday, and it's much better for the Sox defense for him to be in RF at Fenway Park.
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