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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 6, 2014 7:26:49 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 6, 2014 11:42:19 GMT -5
Happy Teddy Stankiewicz day!!
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 6, 2014 12:05:25 GMT -5
Happy Teddy Stankiewicz day!! There's a couple of pitchers lurking in the system that may move quickly, and this is one of them. Brian Johnson is another. There's good pitching depth, less so with the position players, but it's easy enough for the Sox to move them for talent if that's important to them. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 6, 2014 14:14:51 GMT -5
CVaz 2-3 with 2B so far today. I think he would do at least as well as AJP in Boston.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 6, 2014 14:46:15 GMT -5
Vazquez is DHing while Lavarnway catching? That's ridiculous.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 6, 2014 14:49:54 GMT -5
Vazquez is DHing while Lavarnway catching? That's ridiculous. Its a AAA game. The goal isn't to win every game. Vazquez is going to get days off behind the plate and its good to see they are using the DH slot to still get him some at bats. |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 6, 2014 14:53:59 GMT -5
Vazquez had day off yesterday. No reason to have day off behind the plate today. What's the goal of AAA game? The future catcher had better get more fielding experience in minor league.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 6, 2014 15:44:20 GMT -5
By all accounts CVaz is MLB ready behind the plate, I would think plate appearances are far more important to his development. Lavarnway has been rumored to be on the block, maybe they are showcasing him.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 6, 2014 16:25:12 GMT -5
CVaz 2-3 with 2B so far today. I think he would do at least as well as AJP in Boston. It's weird how the Red Sox have elected to put all of their best players on their AAA roster. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 6, 2014 17:27:25 GMT -5
Cecchini or Herrera at third?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 6, 2014 17:37:29 GMT -5
CVaz 2-3 with 2B so far today. I think he would do at least as well as AJP in Boston. It's weird how the Red Sox have elected to put all of their best players on their AAA roster. Yeah, I found myself hoping they'd consider Butler to start the year, or even Vazquez instead of bringing on AJP. I don't think it's easily done, though. They've already got two rookies in the lineup and it would probably be a stretch to add more given the angst in the Boston press. That said, Vazquez would undoubtedly acquit himself well on the defensive side, rectifying some of the sturm und drang we're currently watching on the ML team. Given the way he's started out with the bat, he might even be able to calm the waters on the offensive side as well. At the very least, it would be money in the bank to bet he'd outpace both the ancient ones in OBP. Oh well. I'm certain we'll see him before the year's out. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 6, 2014 17:57:48 GMT -5
It's weird how the Red Sox have elected to put all of their best players on their AAA roster. Yeah, I found myself hoping they'd consider Butler to start the year, or even Vazquez instead of bringing on AJP. I don't think it's easily done, though. They've already got two rookies in the lineup and it would probably be a stretch to add more given the angst in the Boston press. That said, Vazquez would undoubtedly acquit himself well on the defensive side, rectifying some of the sturm und drang we're currently watching on the ML team. Given the way he's started out with the bat, he might even be able to calm the waters on the offensive side as well. At the very least, it would be money in the bank to bet he'd outpace both the ancient ones in OBP. Oh well. I'm certain we'll see him before the year's out. Wait...isn't this a bridge year??? I think AJ, now that fans have become accustomed to team grind-out at-bats, is going to soon draw derision from those in attendance. I thought heard a smattering yesterday. |
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Post by soxcentral on Apr 6, 2014 20:08:53 GMT -5
The good
Simon Mercedes
3.1 IP/0 ER/4 K/0 BB
The bad
Teddy Stankiewicz
4 IP/4 ER/2 HR/0 K/1 BB
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Post by jchang on Apr 6, 2014 20:16:35 GMT -5
on the positive for Teddy, he allowed only 1 run in the first 4IP, then got tagged for 4R/3ER without an out in the 5th. That's plenty to build on. Owens was like that when he was in Greenville, 9-12 quick outs, then out of gas.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 6, 2014 20:23:09 GMT -5
The good Simon Mercedes 3.1 IP/0 ER/ 4 K/0 BBThe bad Teddy Stankiewicz 4 IP/4 ER/2 HR/0 K/1 BB There's the shiny part of that line... That's very encouraging, to have someone who throws that hard have some control to go with it. |
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 6, 2014 21:28:06 GMT -5
Mike Adams with the 4 K eighth inning. He now has an 18:0 K:BB ratio as a pro.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 6, 2014 22:47:28 GMT -5
The good Simon Mercedes 3.1 IP/0 ER/4 K/0 BB The bad Teddy Stankiewicz 4 IP/4 ER/2 HR/0 K/1 BB Simon Mercedes' pitching is impressive. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2014 9:35:10 GMT -5
Cecchini or Herrera at third? Cecchini may be ready at the plate, but I don't think he's ready defensively yet. He's looking more like a mid-season option. |
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Post by nomar on Apr 7, 2014 14:04:54 GMT -5
I don't think Cecchini is ready at the plate or defensively personally.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2014 15:33:19 GMT -5
If he's ready offensively to help the team then I find it hard to believe his defense is that bad he's going to hurt the team compared to the other options they have at third. Wasn't Herrera a question mark at third this spring? It's not like any options Middlebrooks included are great defenders. This team needs some bats hitting right now.
I'm not saying GC should be the option because I don't know if his bat is ready.
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 7, 2014 15:43:27 GMT -5
If he's ready offensively to help the team then I find it hard to believe his defense is that bad he's going to hurt the team compared to the other options they have at third. Wasn't Herrera a question mark at third this spring? It's not like any options Middlebrooks included are great defenders. This team needs some bats hitting right now. This is a great demonstration of the difference between the short-term thinking of a fanboy and the longer-term thinking of an organization. Last I checked, a baseball season is 162 games and a solid baseball career is 8-12 seasons. |
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Post by okin15 on Apr 7, 2014 16:20:56 GMT -5
If he's ready offensively to help the team then I find it hard to believe his defense is that bad he's going to hurt the team compared to the other options they have at third. Wasn't Herrera a question mark at third this spring? It's not like any options Middlebrooks included are great defenders. This team needs some bats hitting right now. This is a great demonstration of the difference between the short-term thinking of a fanboy and the longer-term thinking of an organization. Last I checked, a baseball season is 162 games and a solid baseball career is 8-12 seasons. Are you suggesting that Cecchini can't learn to play defense at the MLB level and so his growth would be stunted if he came up? Seems like if you can learn to play D in AAA, then you can learn in MLB without your maturation being stunted. Whether that D would hurt the big club is a separate discussion. I tend to agree with Hatfield on this subject; bat ready, glove really not. |
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 7, 2014 17:34:29 GMT -5
This is a great demonstration of the difference between the short-term thinking of a fanboy and the longer-term thinking of an organization. Last I checked, a baseball season is 162 games and a solid baseball career is 8-12 seasons. Are you suggesting that Cecchini can't learn to play defense at the MLB level and so his growth would be stunted if he came up? Seems like if you can learn to play D in AAA, then you can learn in MLB without your maturation being stunted. Whether that D would hurt the big club is a separate discussion. I tend to agree with Hatfield on this subject; bat ready, glove really not. I'm suggesting that you don't tinker with a development plan put together over a full offseason because a player gets hurt in the first week of the season. Stick with the plan, don't panic. Fanboys react to short samples; organizations have to be (and are) more mature about these things, based on experience. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2014 20:16:10 GMT -5
"Fanboy" is just a term that's meant as an insult and not necessary. Teams call players up all the time "ahead of schedule" or "outside their plan" due to major league holes. The offseason plan last year wasn't to have Bradley start in the majors but he did. The Marlins didn't plan to start Jose Fernandez in the majors last year, but injuries to the major league team changed their plan and it's good that it did.
This is also the same team that is willing to play a guy who's not ready with the bat but is defensively. It leads one to believe, if the bat were ready he'd get a chance. My guess is the bat isn't truly ready. If he were ready to be an impact bat, then his defense would have to be absolutely brutal to make it not be a worthwhile addition. I'm sure he's not a great 3b, but he's been playing there for a long time now, works hard, is a smart kid and has good hand eye. He also wouldn't be replacing above average defenders there. Let's be realistic, I'm sure he can play a decent enough 3b while learning on the job.
If his bat was major league ready then you'd have a plus bat with (minus but improving d) vs now you have a minus bat (w/ no improvement) and neutral D. The moral is his bat isn't as ready as they are suggesting.
Also, it wasn't suggested he should be the call up. That much was very clear, but the thought of it wouldn't be some ignorant "fan boy" suggestion.
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Post by jmei on Apr 7, 2014 20:42:35 GMT -5
Eh, if Middlebrooks is only going to be out a few weeks, it makes sense to get a fill-in and let Cecchini continue to develop. This is the same front office that went with a Holt/Snyder platoon for a few weeks in lieu of calling up Bogaerts or Middlebrooks. Aside from Bradley last year (which looks like an aberration in hindsight), I can't remember another "surprise" promotion for this new regime.
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