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Post by curll on Sept 22, 2012 22:20:41 GMT -5
3.06 ERA in the second half. 3.91 FIP, 3.69 xFIP on the season.
He has never missed much time. He's on a short, expensive contract.
Seems like an ideal pickup, would likely have to send Doubie or Workman, but so be it.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 23, 2012 11:07:29 GMT -5
If we could pick up Tim Lincecum for 2 or 3 years and the price was not terrible, sign me up BIG TIME.
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Post by curll on Sept 23, 2012 11:12:59 GMT -5
He's a FA after 2013, we'd have to sign him to an extension. It would be better to let him ride for 2013 and either take the pick when he jets or try to sign him. But, I'd imagine he wants to explore FA.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 23, 2012 11:18:52 GMT -5
He's a FA after 2013, we'd have to sign him to an extension. It would be better to let him ride for 2013 and either take the pick when he jets or try to sign him. But, I'd imagine he wants to explore FA. Didn't know that curll. I think I'm even more interested as the price should be less.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 23, 2012 13:04:24 GMT -5
3.06 ERA in the second half. 3.91 FIP, 3.69 xFIP on the season. An ERA in the upper threes really isn't anything special in 2012, especially not in the NL West
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Post by larrycook on Sept 24, 2012 13:12:46 GMT -5
3.06 ERA in the second half. 3.91 FIP, 3.69 xFIP on the season. He has never missed much time. He's on a short, expensive contract. Seems like an ideal pickup, would likely have to send Doubie or Workman, but so be it. Seems to me that Cherrington is trying to build a lot of length into his starting pitching staff. I wonder how he would value a guy like Lincecum?
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Post by bluechip on Nov 26, 2012 7:40:07 GMT -5
I keep seeing that Lincecum is available. He had a pretty lousy year in 2012, but that is why he is available . He still has the potential to be a great starting pitcher. I would certainly be interested, so long as he does not cost Barnes, Bradley, or Xander.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 26, 2012 10:56:48 GMT -5
I love the "freak". Like to see what he could do with the Sox, but the money would be a problem. $22 million for 2013 will not happen. The Giants would need to pick up some of that for sure. Don't see the match, but I'd like to see him with us.
If he gets his velocity back, he could still be an ace for the next couple of years. I can tell you this: no one in the American League has those mechanics. I bet he would be tough on hitters
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Post by jmei on Nov 26, 2012 12:32:49 GMT -5
If all it takes is a Workman-level prospect, I'd be all for it. The Red Sox should use their ability to absorb salary to strategically acquire talent without having to give up significant prospects. Boston's payroll is around the $100m mark now and the luxury tax limit is at $178m. Even with projected signings of guys like Napoli and Swisher, they should still have more than enough space to take on Lincecum's salary and still have plenty of space for future acquisitions.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 26, 2012 12:35:49 GMT -5
I love the "freak". Like to see what he could do with the Sox, but the money would be a problem. $22 million for 2013 will not happen. The Giants would need to pick up some of that for sure. Don't see the match, but I'd like to see him with us. If he gets his velocity back, he could still be an ace for the next couple of years. I can tell you this: no one in the American League has those mechanics. I bet he would be tough on hitters Why not? The Red Sox have a gigantic pile of money for 2013 and nowhere to spend it. Do you want to give up prospects just so the Red Sox can save $10m in 2013 salary? What are they saving that $10m for? I think Lincecum is toast, and I'd be opposed to giving up any significant amount of young talent for him. But if if the cost of acquiring him is just money? Then sure, bring him in. It's not my money, and it's not an amount of money that's going to effect anything else the Red Sox might want to do.
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Post by bluechip on Nov 26, 2012 13:27:40 GMT -5
I love the "freak". Like to see what he could do with the Sox, but the money would be a problem. $22 million for 2013 will not happen. The Giants would need to pick up some of that for sure. Don't see the match, but I'd like to see him with us. If he gets his velocity back, he could still be an ace for the next couple of years. I can tell you this: no one in the American League has those mechanics. I bet he would be tough on hitters Why not? The Red Sox have a gigantic pile of money for 2013 and nowhere to spend it. Do you want to give up prospects just so the Red Sox can save $10m in 2013 salary? What are they saving that $10m for? I think Lincecum is toast, and I'd be opposed to giving up any significant amount of young talent for him. But if if the cost of acquiring him is just money? Then sure, bring him in. It's not my money, and it's not an amount of money that's going to effect anything else the Red Sox might want to do. I agree. I'd be all for trading a couple of lower tier prospects and a major league reliever for him and absorbing the contract.
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Post by nomar on Nov 27, 2012 12:57:16 GMT -5
If we traded Lester for Myers I would be all for trading for Timmy.
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Post by artfuldodger on Aug 4, 2013 10:08:25 GMT -5
Lincecum as an August pickup to be the super reliever role which he performed last postseason could be a great pickup. Teammates love him so he would fit in the locker room. The prospect cost would be manageable. I would trade Shaw and Vinicio for him. He would get through waivers with that contract.
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Post by jmei on Aug 4, 2013 11:25:31 GMT -5
It's a lot of cash to pay for a player who has never relieved full-time before.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 4, 2013 12:14:29 GMT -5
I wonder if the Giants would let him go to a team who claims him off of wavers. I don't expect them to give him a qualifying offer unless he really puts up an amazing final 2 months.
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Post by artfuldodger on Aug 4, 2013 14:58:56 GMT -5
Is it a risk? Yes, but a limited one for most likely the only difference maker to be available? It is a smaller risk with a higher first year payoff then signing MAG.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 8, 2013 0:16:46 GMT -5
Lincecum as an August pickup to be the super reliever role which he performed last postseason could be a great pickup. Teammates love him so he would fit in the locker room. The prospect cost would be manageable. I would trade Shaw and Vinicio for him. He would get through waivers with that contract. There is no way Shaw/Vinicio is enough for Tim Lincecum. He's in the last year of his deal, so I don't see why it'd be a salary dump. Vinicio is worthless at this point, and Shaw's not going to have nearly enough value to be the top guy in a trade for Lincecum, who has been good, if not his old Cy Young self, as a starter this year.
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Post by nebraska4sox on Sept 20, 2013 9:37:11 GMT -5
Teams from the AL East only hit .219 against him lifetime with 9 homers. If he can keep that up we have nothing to lose. Sign him as the long man in the bullpen who has the ability to get an occasional start.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 20, 2013 12:52:16 GMT -5
Teams from the AL East only hit .219 against him lifetime with 9 homers. If he can keep that up we have nothing to lose. Sign him as the long man in the bullpen who has the ability to get an occasional start. I'm sure most of those numbers were from when Lincecum was dominating which he clearly isn't anymore. Also, I sincerely doubt as a free agent he would sign as a long man. Somebody will sign him to quite a few dollars and a few years hoping that he recaptures his form. He'll be in somebody's rotation, but it won't be the Red Sox and he most certainly won't be a long man in the bullpen. That's for a vet on his last legs. Lincecum is certainly in decline, but he's not at that point yet. If you were Lincecum and you had starting offers on the table would you try to take an offer to be a mop up man? Doubtful.
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