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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 24, 2014 8:55:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 24, 2014 8:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 24, 2014 8:58:29 GMT -5
Middlebrooks/Roberts no Victorino.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 24, 2014 9:06:55 GMT -5
Middlebrooks/Roberts no Victorino. He was on the bench in Boston last evening. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 24, 2014 9:14:20 GMT -5
Just a means nothing comment but every time I see Heiker's name on a lineup card I hope the Sox do the right thing and give him a callup someday. This September would be cool. If there's an organizational guy that deserves that honor it's him. The lifetime health policy wouldn't hurt either.
I'm getting close to feeling that way about Spring as well.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 24, 2014 9:27:16 GMT -5
Light will likely be starting in Salem today.
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Post by widewordofsport on Apr 24, 2014 9:34:56 GMT -5
Ive been a Heiker fan since he put up good numbers in 2011 punching way out of his weight class as injury fill-in. Im not entirely convinced he cant have some use as a AAA-AAAA player.
Im also wondering if Middlebrooks may not be back up in Boston as soon as he thinks. Holt may be a better option right now. Interested to see how these next few games go.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 24, 2014 10:37:17 GMT -5
Ive been a Heiker fan since he put up good numbers in 2011 punching way out of his weight class as injury fill-in. Im not entirely convinced he cant have some use as a AAA-AAAA player. I didn't pay any attention to Meneses until I saw him in ST this year. He fielded well, and had a couple of good at-bats. I know he's been an org guy, but he's also young young young... 23 in July. This year is the first time in a while he's been age-appropriate, so it's time to start paying attention to the results and to see what he looks like at Pawtucket. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 24, 2014 12:12:01 GMT -5
Ranaudo doing his thing. 3 innings pitched, 6 hits, 4 walks.....
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 24, 2014 12:15:04 GMT -5
Ive been a Heiker fan since he put up good numbers in 2011 punching way out of his weight class as injury fill-in. Im not entirely convinced he cant have some use as a AAA-AAAA player. Im also wondering if Middlebrooks may not be back up in Boston as soon as he thinks. Holt may be a better option right now. Interested to see how these next few games go. Holt's at-bats were verrrry encouraging...excellent eye and working counts. That does it for me. |
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 24, 2014 13:57:53 GMT -5
Light to Salem official. Aaron King released.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 24, 2014 13:59:20 GMT -5
Ive been a Heiker fan since he put up good numbers in 2011 punching way out of his weight class as injury fill-in. Im not entirely convinced he cant have some use as a AAA-AAAA player. Im also wondering if Middlebrooks may not be back up in Boston as soon as he thinks. Holt may be a better option right now. Interested to see how these next few games go. His 0-10 5K so far in his rehab sure isn't helping his cause. |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 24, 2014 14:06:12 GMT -5
Keep going with Holt until he stops hitting. Then go to Middlebrooks.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 24, 2014 14:21:19 GMT -5
Keep going with Holt until he stops hitting. Then go to Middlebrooks. I'm inclined to agree with this. Holt has a .310/.373/.392 line in 491 Triple-A plate appearances. In 362 Pawtucket PA's, Middlebrooks is at .263/.315/.482. Middlebrooks' power obviously gives him the higher upside, but I think there's a good chance Holt is a better player right now. |
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Post by oilcansman on Apr 24, 2014 14:41:18 GMT -5
It's time to call Anthony Renaudo what he is - a lukewarm prospect. Maybe a 5th starter next year. Not worth the hype.
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Post by ramireja on Apr 24, 2014 14:43:30 GMT -5
Keep going with Holt until he stops hitting. Then go to Middlebrooks. I mean that kind of logic makes sense only up until a certain point. At what point can you determine if Holt has stopped hitting. The first time he goes 0-4? Maybe something more substantial like 1-20 skid? Probably an even larger sample size? Bottom line, in order to make switch because one player got cold basically means you have to live through that cold spell which isn't ideal either. The sox need to make an evaluation or player comparison thats independent of a player's recent hot or cold streak. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 24, 2014 15:00:30 GMT -5
Keep going with Holt until he stops hitting. Then go to Middlebrooks. I mean that kind of logic makes sense only up until a certain point. At what point can you determine if Holt has stopped hitting. The first time he goes 0-4? Maybe something more substantial like 1-20 skid? Probably an even larger sample size? Bottom line, in order to make switch because one player got cold basically means you have to live through that cold spell which isn't ideal either. The sox need to make an evaluation or player comparison thats independent of a player's recent hot or cold streak. They can play an unstrict platoon also. |
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Post by beasleyrockah on Apr 24, 2014 15:00:35 GMT -5
It's time to call Anthony Renaudo what he is - a lukewarm prospect. Maybe a 5th starter next year. Not worth the hype. It's time to spell his name correctly. I must be missing this hype, I could be missing some loud strawmen though. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 24, 2014 15:12:37 GMT -5
After the velocity uptick last start, this definitely not what we wanted to see out of Ranaudo this start but it's still only one start. Interesting ninth for Wilson, 8 pitch inning including a strikeout.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 24, 2014 15:17:11 GMT -5
Holt is probably a better fielder also, and why not go with the hot hand? We need every player we can right now to hit. After Holt cools off for 6-7 games and assuming Middlebrooks is hitting well in AAA, then consider bringing up Middlebrooks. It's not that I think Holt is the better player, or believe is SSS to an extreme degree, but when a guy is going good why hurry to demote him? Why fix what isn't broken?
Especially when the fix went O for 3 last night with 3 K in AAA.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Apr 24, 2014 15:22:43 GMT -5
Interesting ninth for Wilson, 8 pitch inning including a strikeout. All credit to Koji. |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 24, 2014 15:33:12 GMT -5
When is it time to rethink Alex Wilson? It's only 8 innings so far, but he's got better than a K-per-inning and is getting groundballs, too (1.6 GO/AO). I remember reading something about his refining his two-seamer and going to that as his bread-and-butter, I think.
Anyway, too small a sample right now (and he had 5 walks in just 8 innings), but something to pay attention to going forward
edit: was it a split-finger? I'm forgetting now what he supposedly learned/perfected
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Post by jmei on Apr 24, 2014 15:34:49 GMT -5
'Twas a two-seamer, I believe.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 24, 2014 15:48:43 GMT -5
It wouldn't hurt to use him as the mop up type guy and see if we can build some value in him. He probably is never going to be worth a lot but why not give him a few innings this year and see? We can bring him up and send him down as needed.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 24, 2014 16:07:03 GMT -5
Holt is probably a better fielder also, and why not go with the hot hand? I disagree with that. But I think the difference is close enough that I'd take the better bat, and I think Holt is currently a better hitter. I also think 200 Triple-A at-bats would do Middlebrooks a lot of good. I think they rushed him in 2012 when Youkilis broke instead of sticking to his development schedule. I don't think it will make or break him as a player, but I think a few trips through the IL, where there are some veteran pitchers who change speeds and sequence pretty well, would be a help for him. |
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